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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 10:33:15 AM

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I hate this team.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 10:37:46 AM

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Hate is such a strong (and accurate) word!

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 10:41:22 AM

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Tolliver could've had 4 or 5 good 3pt attempts if Butler or Rose would look for their teammates in situations other than when they get stuck.

We did nothing to get KAT the ball. Nothing.

We just don’t pass the ball unless we have to.

Spurs had 323 passes last night. We had 244.

That pass stat is an awesome way to determine what you are ....

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 10:48:52 AM

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Tolliver could've had 4 or 5 good 3pt attempts if Butler or Rose would look for their teammates in situations other than when they get stuck.

We did nothing to get KAT the ball. Nothing.

We just don’t pass the ball unless we have to.

Spurs had 323 passes last night. We had 244.

That pass stat is an awesome way to determine what you are ....

And the Spurs were without their top 2 PGs...

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 11:05:37 AM

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Last night showed a perfect example of who Jeff Teague is.

He's not a bad player, but he's not a PG. He's a small SG.

I think part of the reason he pounds the ball so much and is so indecisive about scoring is because he’s trying to play the point and it doesn’t come naturally to him. He’s thinking about what to do instead of just doing it.

He doesn’t see mismatches, he’s a horribly inaccurate passer.

But he’s a very solid 3pt shooter and an incredibly underrated driver, but he doesn’t do nearly enough of either. The guy can get to the rim against almost anyone – but he’s so hesitant to do it.

He really should be an instant-offense 6th man off the bench. Bring him into the game and tell him to always be in attack mode. Shoot if you’re open, drive every chance you get. I really think he’d thrive in that role. Basically the JJ Barea role in Dallas.

He was really good scoring last night, and 27/4 is a terrific game for him, but it illustrates the difference between him and a guy like Rubio. Ricky may have had 14/12 for us last night, but there is no way KAT would've had less than 20 points.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 11:11:50 AM

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The Rubio trade which got Teague is why I think Thibs is SO TERRIBLE in evaluating talent and assembling a team. If we had stopped trading after acquiring Butler, last year and the Wolves prospects would be wildly different. Thibs sucks both as a coach and in the front office role.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 11:21:41 AM

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The Rubio trade which got Teague is why I think Thibs is SO TERRIBLE in evaluating talent and assembling a team. If we had stopped trading after acquiring Butler, last year and the Wolves prospects would be wildly different. Thibs sucks both as a coach and in the front office role.

The Taj Gibson contract was almost as bad.

We had just spent a fortune on Dieng, so Thibs used his remaining FA money on another big when Butler and Wiggins were the only wings on the roster.

Taj was a great bench guy 5 years ago, but he's really a liability against most teams in the current NBA.

Also last night we saw just how wrong the people that defended the Rose signing because "it can't hurt us since its just for the minimum" were.

30 minutes of Derrick Rose is crippling to a team.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 11:38:56 AM

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I hate this team.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 2:16:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Last night showed a perfect example of who Jeff Teague is.

He's not a bad player, but he's not a PG. He's a small SG.

I think part of the reason he pounds the ball so much and is so indecisive about scoring is because he’s trying to play the point and it doesn’t come naturally to him. He’s thinking about what to do instead of just doing it.

He doesn’t see mismatches, he’s a horribly inaccurate passer.

But he’s a very solid 3pt shooter and an incredibly underrated driver, but he doesn’t do nearly enough of either. The guy can get to the rim against almost anyone – but he’s so hesitant to do it.

He really should be an instant-offense 6th man off the bench. Bring him into the game and tell him to always be in attack mode. Shoot if you’re open, drive every chance you get. I really think he’d thrive in that role. Basically the JJ Barea role in Dallas.

He was really good scoring last night, and 27/4 is a terrific game for him, but it illustrates the difference between him and a guy like Rubio. Ricky may have had 14/12 for us last night, but there is no way KAT would've had less than 20 points.

Spot on on Teague. He's much more capable as a scorer than a facilitator.
One of the easiest things for a PG is leading the break, unfortunately he's not very good in that area either.

Man, we have a lot of things holding down our most efficient, best offensive player. Teague is just one of them.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/18/2018 9:55:25 PM

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Crap. Miami wins and Richardson has a big game.

28 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, 1 block.

5/11 from 3 (one make shy of our season total…), 7/8 from the line.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 10:17:52 AM

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Crap. Miami wins and Richardson has a big game.

28 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, 1 block.

5/11 from 3 (one make shy of our season total…), 7/8 from the line.

Miami looks intent on making Richardson a big scorer. His FG% was pretty bad last night when I last checked, but the threes and FTs make up for that. Olynyk won the game with a put back of a Wade miss with 0.2 seconds to go.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 11:47:04 AM

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*sigh*

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Thibs on Josh Okogie: “You have to settle on a 9 man rotation. Right now, he’s not in it.”

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 11:53:52 AM

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That means Rose is going to get 30 MPG every game.

As he’s the only bench "wing" in the rotation.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 11:55:18 AM

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I hate this team.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 12:03:50 PM

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That means Rose is going to get 30 MPG every game.

As he’s the only bench "wing" in the rotation.

Real exciting, isn't it?

Passed up free mid-court, bench side, 7th row seats for tonight.
That's how excited I am.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 12:15:24 PM

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*sigh*

Jace frederick@JaceFrederick
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Thibs on Josh Okogie: “You have to settle on a 9 man rotation. Right now, he’s not in it.”

Says who? And by Game 2? Absurd.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 12:29:13 PM

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There is zero chance Thibodeau ever changes anything about how he coaches or acts.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 12:45:44 PM

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Thibs is like my dog.

Once something happens once, it becomes a universal truth.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 1:22:23 PM

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Say what you will .. there's been some damn funny posts that have come out of this debacle ..
So we have that goin for us, which is, ya know ...

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:10:42 PM

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According to this article, the Wolves turned down Richardson, Olynyk and a first.

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-news-heat-offered-josh-richardson-kelly-olynyk-1st-rounder-for-jimmy-butler/

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:12:36 PM

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According to this article, the Wolves turned down Richardson, Olynyk and a first.

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-news-heat-offered-josh-richardson-kelly-olynyk-1st-rounder-for-jimmy-butler/

I'm prepared to be wrong here ... but if true .... isn't that HISTORICALLY stupid?

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:12:49 PM

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Woj is saying basically the same thing. That was the point where Thibs moved the goal posts and Riley told him to f*** off.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:17:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

According to this article, the Wolves turned down Richardson, Olynyk and a first.

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-news-heat-offered-josh-richardson-kelly-olynyk-1st-rounder-for-jimmy-butler/

I'm prepared to be wrong here ... but if true .... isn't that HISTORICALLY stupid?

Yeah.

It still completely hoses us money-wise. We'd have to find a take for Dieng's contract or we'd be hopelessly over the cap and unable to sign anyone (Tyus, use the MLE, etc).

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:18:49 PM

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Woj is saying basically the same thing. That was the point where Thibs moved the goal posts and Riley told him to f*** off.

I take anything Woj says about it with a huge grain of salt.

He's been a mouthpiece for Buddy Lee throughout the whole ordeal.

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RE: Wolves 2018 Game Day - 10/19/2018 2:21:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Woj is saying basically the same thing. That was the point where Thibs moved the goal posts and Riley told him to f*** off.

I take anything Woj says about it with a huge grain of salt.

He's been a mouthpiece for Buddy Lee throughout the whole ordeal.

Buddy Lee? Isn't that the Lee Jeans mascot?

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