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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 12:46:34 PM   
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Broncos WR Jordan Taylor Makes Amazing One-Handed Catch! | NFL

https://youtu.be/9oXCR3CH894
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 1:00:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kwheats

Broncos WR Jordan Taylor Makes Amazing One-Handed Catch! | NFL

https://youtu.be/9oXCR3CH894



yeah, but every receiver has made that catch at least once in their football career - hell, even i've made it....

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 1:13:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: kwheats

Broncos WR Jordan Taylor Makes Amazing One-Handed Catch! | NFL

https://youtu.be/9oXCR3CH894



yeah, but every receiver has made that catch at least once in their football career - hell, even i've made it....


Yeah but he got his on video!!!
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 2:02:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Still waiting for an answer from yesterday. Although the line of posts are back today, guess he's moved past it:


What should Spielman do? Not approve the deal? Tell Brzez to front load the deal even though we have no cap space?

Brzez (IMO) is among the best in the business. Unless Spielman overrides him and tells him to rework contracts, how is this Spielman's fault except in the general "the buck stops here" sense? Presuming of course they want to keep the players they are trying to sign, or do right by them.


Akin to blaming the janitor

Spielman is in charge and is making all the calls. He decides whom to extend and sign. Brez is the accountant trying to rub penny's together. None of this falls on him.

What part of that don't you understand?



This is not some $100 million contract but we'll pretend it is. Anyway, just how would you have extended Theilen given we have little cap space? Factor in the extension had to happen this year, since you yourself said Theilen deserved the extension.
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 2:19:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Still waiting for an answer from yesterday. Although the line of posts are back today, guess he's moved past it:


What should Spielman do? Not approve the deal? Tell Brzez to front load the deal even though we have no cap space?

Brzez (IMO) is among the best in the business. Unless Spielman overrides him and tells him to rework contracts, how is this Spielman's fault except in the general "the buck stops here" sense? Presuming of course they want to keep the players they are trying to sign, or do right by them.


Akin to blaming the janitor

Spielman is in charge and is making all the calls. He decides whom to extend and sign. Brez is the accountant trying to rub penny's together. None of this falls on him.

What part of that don't you understand?



This is not some $100 million contract but we'll pretend it is. Anyway, just how would you have extended Theilen given we have little cap space? Factor in the extension had to happen this year, since you yourself said Theilen deserved the extension.

Contract ext is for 64ml over 4 years. Not going to monkey with the incentives or signing bonus because I simply don't know how all that factors in to the bottom line.

2021 17.5ml
2022 17.5ml
2023 14.5ml
2024 14.5ml

That way we get the guaranteed money paid in the 1st 2 years and could cut him with no dead cap in 2023 or renegotiate depending on performance.

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 3:22:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Still waiting for an answer from yesterday. Although the line of posts are back today, guess he's moved past it:


What should Spielman do? Not approve the deal? Tell Brzez to front load the deal even though we have no cap space?

Brzez (IMO) is among the best in the business. Unless Spielman overrides him and tells him to rework contracts, how is this Spielman's fault except in the general "the buck stops here" sense? Presuming of course they want to keep the players they are trying to sign, or do right by them.


Akin to blaming the janitor

Spielman is in charge and is making all the calls. He decides whom to extend and sign. Brez is the accountant trying to rub penny's together. None of this falls on him.

What part of that don't you understand?



This is not some $100 million contract but we'll pretend it is. Anyway, just how would you have extended Theilen given we have little cap space? Factor in the extension had to happen this year, since you yourself said Theilen deserved the extension.

Contract ext is for 64ml over 4 years. Not going to monkey with the incentives or signing bonus because I simply don't know how all that factors in to the bottom line.

2021 17.5ml
2022 17.5ml
2023 14.5ml
2024 14.5ml

That way we get the guaranteed money paid in the 1st 2 years and could cut him with no dead cap in 2023 or renegotiate depending on performance.



I wonder if Brzez, err I mean Spielman is thinking your way?
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 5:16:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Still waiting for an answer from yesterday. Although the line of posts are back today, guess he's moved past it:


What should Spielman do? Not approve the deal? Tell Brzez to front load the deal even though we have no cap space?

Brzez (IMO) is among the best in the business. Unless Spielman overrides him and tells him to rework contracts, how is this Spielman's fault except in the general "the buck stops here" sense? Presuming of course they want to keep the players they are trying to sign, or do right by them.


Akin to blaming the janitor

Spielman is in charge and is making all the calls. He decides whom to extend and sign. Brez is the accountant trying to rub penny's together. None of this falls on him.

What part of that don't you understand?



This is not some $100 million contract but we'll pretend it is. Anyway, just how would you have extended Theilen given we have little cap space? Factor in the extension had to happen this year, since you yourself said Theilen deserved the extension.

Contract ext is for 64ml over 4 years. Not going to monkey with the incentives or signing bonus because I simply don't know how all that factors in to the bottom line.

2021 17.5ml
2022 17.5ml
2023 14.5ml
2024 14.5ml

That way we get the guaranteed money paid in the 1st 2 years and could cut him with no dead cap in 2023 or renegotiate depending on performance.



I wonder if Brzez, err I mean Spielman is thinking your way?

The first two years match the guaranteed money. Hopefully that's what it is. Odds are he will be very productive the first two years.

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/14/2019 6:51:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

2011: Caught 10 passes for 721 yards and a pair of touchdowns.






That's a pretty nice average yards per catch. If he can get half of that with us, I'm smelling Super Bowl!
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/15/2019 2:58:49 PM   
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Apparently the Vikings "especially really like Derron Smith", the safety free agent that they signed.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/4/14/18310879/minnesota-vikings-lower-tier-free-agents

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/15/2019 5:01:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Apparently the Vikings "especially really like Derron Smith", the safety free agent that they signed.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/4/14/18310879/minnesota-vikings-lower-tier-free-agents

Not only did the team pay Smith more than the other guys (725K) – above the $570,000 'cutline' for roster exemption tryout types like UDFAs and AAF dudes, but I read somewhere that they gave him a two year deal ... also very unusual for AAF contracts.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 4/15/2019 5:07:11 PM >
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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/16/2019 2:00:40 PM   
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/16/matt-kalil-not-back-to-full-health/

Matt Kalil not back to full health
Posted by Josh Alper on April 16, 2019, 1:46 PM EDT

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The Texans signed veteran tackle Matt Kalil to a one-year deal as a free agent in hopes that he can help them put a better offensive line on the field in 2019.

Kalil’s role in that effort will obviously be contingent on him actually getting on the field and he said on Tuesday that he’s not ready to do that yet. Kalil didn’t play for the Panthers at all last season due to a knee injury and said that he’s not back to full health at this point.

While he’s not physically ready to go, Kalil said the chance to prove he can still play has him “the most fired up I’ve been in a while.”

“I like being on a one-year deal,” Kalil said, via Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle. “Everybody knows what kind of player I can be. It’s about being healthy.”

Kalil wasn’t very effective for the Panthers in 2017, so there’s reason to doubt that good health will make everything alright this year. It’s certainly significant, though, and the sooner Kalil can get on the field the better for the Texans’ hopes of knowing if he can be part of the solution.

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Kalil and the Houston are delusional.

Guess the Panthers stopped demanding excellence and the Texans started.

I give Matt credit for getting what he can but he's still one of my least favorite exViking's

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 4/16/2019 3:47:12 PM   
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A LA Ram OT has just been released. His brother played with the Vikings before, but I never heard of him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Murphy_(American_football)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/16/rams-waive-kyle-murphy/

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 4/16/2019 3:48:44 PM >


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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 5/7/2019 9:15:11 PM   
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This talented, but troubled wide receiver is seeking a comeback. I'm sure he would sign for veterans minimum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martavis_Bryant

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 5/8/2019 1:08:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Apparently the Vikings "especially really like Derron Smith", the safety free agent that they signed.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/4/14/18310879/minnesota-vikings-lower-tier-free-agents

Not only did the team pay Smith more than the other guys (725K) – above the $570,000 'cutline' for roster exemption tryout types like UDFAs and AAF dudes, but I read somewhere that they gave him a two year deal ... also very unusual for AAF contracts.


spotrac

Derron Smith signed a 1 year, $725,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $5,000 signing bonus, $5,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $725,000. In 2019, Smith will earn a base salary of $720,000 and a signing bonus of $5,000, while carrying a cap hit of $725,000 and a dead cap value of $5,000.

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RE: 2019 Free Agents - 5/8/2019 8:29:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Apparently the Vikings "especially really like Derron Smith", the safety free agent that they signed.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/4/14/18310879/minnesota-vikings-lower-tier-free-agents

Not only did the team pay Smith more than the other guys (725K) – above the $570,000 'cutline' for roster exemption tryout types like UDFAs and AAF dudes, but I read somewhere that they gave him a two year deal ... also very unusual for AAF contracts.


spotrac

Derron Smith signed a 1 year, $725,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $5,000 signing bonus, $5,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $725,000. In 2019, Smith will earn a base salary of $720,000 and a signing bonus of $5,000, while carrying a cap hit of $725,000 and a dead cap value of $5,000.

I stand corrected.
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