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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 6:30:21 PM   
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An accolade for an undrafted Viking.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/05/11/minnesota-vikings-rookie-top-undrafted-nfl/

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 6:53:56 PM   
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An accolade for an undrafted Viking.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/05/11/minnesota-vikings-rookie-top-undrafted-nfl/


Exciting stuff. One of the top 3 UDFA CBs.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 7:23:28 PM   
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The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 9:05:07 PM   
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The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 10:10:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster

the Bears IIRC got Emmanuel Hall who was a very highly regarded WR. However, I'm not very concerned with them getting three players that weren't even drafted.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 10:11:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster

I bet one does and most likely it's Hall.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/12/2019 10:33:27 PM   
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The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 7:42:26 AM   
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The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:47:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster



Kind of like the Rutgers CB has just about no chance to make our roster?
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:49:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster



Kind of like the Rutgers CB has just about no chance to make our roster?


Since he gained a training camp roster spot by tryout, I do believe his chances are better than the other undrafted free agents.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:50:34 AM   
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The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:52:24 AM   
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Last year Holton Hill was the only UDFA to make the Vikings 53 right?

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:54:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:57:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster



Kind of like the Rutgers CB has just about no chance to make our roster?


Since he gained a training camp roster spot by tryout, I do believe his chances are better than the other undrafted free agents.


The only spot available I believe could be temporarily until Hill comes off suspension, and the CB out of Texas (Boyd) will get the first shot.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:57:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.


How did the Jared Allen trade work for the Vikings?....Young DE like that are worth it. Pretty sure they would do it again....same for Dallas as they took off after they traded for Cooper.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 5/13/2019 9:02:52 AM >


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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 8:59:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.


Going from the cellar to North champions would not have happened waiting on the draft picks to “Maybe” work out.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 9:16:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.


Going from the cellar to North champions would not have happened waiting on the draft picks to “Maybe” work out.

Completely true, but this draft we and Green Bay and Detroit were all able to make much more significant improvements than the Bears. I'm just saying they paid a price in this years draft. The Bears were better than us, but are they still better than us is a good question.

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 5/13/2019 9:17:54 AM >


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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 9:42:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.


Going from the cellar to North champions would not have happened waiting on the draft picks to “Maybe” work out.

Completely true, but this draft we and Green Bay and Detroit were all able to make much more significant improvements than the Bears. I'm just saying they paid a price in this years draft. The Bears were better than us, but are they still better than us is a good question.


As much as most of us I think like our draft (I think) we have no idea who made “more significant improvements” from this draft?

It’s a crapshoot, and I’ll let you know in 2-3 years who improved the most.

The Mack trade had immediate results...

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 11:32:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

The Bears are a well coached team that is lacking in talent.

Thankfully they don't have a QB that is a good passer, at least not yet.


What? The Bears have a ton of talent....the reason they became so good is they added Robinson, Mack, and the TE we coveted last offseason. That put them over the top.


Not sure you add one player in Mack and completely change your narrative unless you had some talent to start with. I agree Phil.

That being said, the Khalil Mack trade is probably one of the best trades ever just simply in tangible results.

But they did pay a price in this years draft not having a pick until the third round. It's like the Vikings not getting Bradbury and/or Smith and Mack also used up a huge chunk of their cap.


Going from the cellar to North champions would not have happened waiting on the draft picks to “Maybe” work out.

Completely true, but this draft we and Green Bay and Detroit were all able to make much more significant improvements than the Bears. I'm just saying they paid a price in this years draft. The Bears were better than us, but are they still better than us is a good question.


As much as most of us I think like our draft (I think) we have no idea who made “more significant improvements” from this draft?

It’s a crapshoot, and I’ll let you know in 2-3 years who improved the most.

The Mack trade had immediate results...

Of course the Mack trade had immediate results. They mortgaged the future to make it. IMO good move by the Bears.

I'm going to stake my draftnik reputation that this draft improved the Vikings more than the Bears draft improved them. I have supreme confidence in Bradbury greatly improving our O Line. I like just about every other move. Time will tell if I'm right or wrong.

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/13/2019 5:57:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The bad news is that the Bears got three players from that list. For those that missed the link inside the link, (as I did) here it is.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/crabbs--2019-all-undrafted-team


Odds are none of them make their roster



Kind of like the Rutgers CB has just about no chance to make our roster?


Exactly, odds are the 3rd best UDFA CB will not make our roster.
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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/18/2019 12:25:11 AM   
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What Penny Hardaway has to say about Dillon Mitchell.

Hardaway on Mitchell: ‘Minnesota got a steal’
As a middle-school athlete, Vikings receiver Dillon Mitchell, drafted by Minnesota in the seventh round, was coached on the basketball court by NBA legend Penny Hardaway.
SKOR North’s Matthew Coller spoke earlier this week with Hardaway, who said he was “amazed” when he first saw Mitchell play football in 10th grade.
“I thought I was seeing a reincarnation of Reggie Bush, the way he was running kick returns and punt returns back for touchdowns,” Hardaway told Coller over the phone.
Coller wrote:
Mitchell was named Tennessee’s Gatorade Football Player of the Year as a senior. He caught 81 passes for 1,484 yards and 22 touchdowns. He also rushed for 951 yards and 20 more touchdowns on 64 carries.

The current head coach of the Memphis Tigers basketball team would have loved to have seen Mitchell continue his basketball career in college and advocated Mitchell playing both sports at Oregon, but it was clear to Mitchell’s mentor that football was the sport of choice.
“He was probably, in my mind, a four-star basketball player, five-star football player, and I think if he had focused strictly on basketball could have been a five-star basketball player,” Hardaway told Coller. “Pretty impressive. But he talked only about football. You’d have him over at AAU events, and he was still staying in tune with football.”
Hardaway was surprised to see Mitchell fall to the seventh round, saying he “dropped way too low with his talent.”
“I look at it this way: I say that Minnesota got a steal,” Hardaway said. “He’s going to prove a lot of people wrong; he’s more motivated than ever, and he’s going to prove a lot of people wrong.”

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/18/2019 7:35:16 AM   
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Of course this is way too early.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/05/18/6-potential-minnesota-vikings-2020-draft-needs/

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RE: 2019 NFL Draft - 5/19/2019 2:00:12 AM   
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I don't subscribe to the Athletica, so I missed Arif's analysis of our draft. What stands out to me once again is Alexander Mattison. I hope he proves the Vikings to be shrewd talent evaluators. For me it was a bit of a head scratcher.

https://purpleptsd.com/2019-vikings-draft-by-the-numbers-and-big-boards-analysis/

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