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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 12:08:56 PM

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Rumor on another Cite. The Wolves trade Wiggins to Houston, Houston trades Paul to Boston and Wolves get back Al H. He declares free agency and the Wolves get the Cap Space to add player or players. Thoughts?

I don't believe that's even feasible.

Horford rejected his player option, so he's a free agent NOW. The only way the deal would work is he'd have to be signed and traded to us.

That was my first reaction. That it would need to be a sign and trade with his approval. The Rockets would be desperate to move Paul, with no other takers, that they would be willing to accept Wiggins in that trade.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 12:10:04 PM

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Rumor on another Cite. The Wolves trade Wiggins to Houston, Houston trades Paul to Boston and Wolves get back Al H. He declares free agency and the Wolves get the Cap Space to add player or players. Thoughts?

I don't believe that's even feasible.

Horford rejected his player option, so he's a free agent NOW. The only way the deal would work is he'd have to be signed and traded to us.

That was my first reaction. That it would need to be a sign and trade with his approval. The Rockets would be desperate to move Paul, with no other takers, that they would be willing to accept Wiggins in that trade.

Horford isn't signing a 3-4 year contract to join us.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 12:20:14 PM

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Sam Vecenie's (The Athletic) final mock:

11. Minnesota Timberwolves — Sekou Doumbouya

6-9 forward, 18 years old, Limoges (France)

One of the persistent rumors of the pre-draft cycle from those within the industry is that Rui Hachimura has a promise, and that it’s from the Timberwolves. Maybe that proves to be the case on draft day and I’m overthinking things. But this persistent rumor dates back to the combine, where current president of basketball operations Gersson Rosas had been on the job for under two weeks. Call me skeptical that Rosas would have promised a player without going through a pre-draft process, and then continued to go through the pre-draft process by bringing in additional prospects such as Nassir Little and Doumbouya, all the while having assured the Timberwolves draft slot to Hachimura? Something just doesn’t line up there, at all. I’m not going to say it’s impossible, but it would be unlike any other pre-draft process where a promise has been involved that I’ve heard of. Maybe Rosas is playing chess while the entire basketball industry is playing checkers here, but I’d find it all very weird.

UPDATE: During his press conference on Tuesday, Rosas clearly and cleanly articulated his thoughts on promises: “We don’t promise players. Every organization has different strategies, different approaches. That’s not something we do.”

I think Doumbouya matches up a lot more with what the Rockets tended to value in draft prospects. He’s a long athlete with the potential to play an interesting 4 man next to Karl-Anthony Towns, with the potential to shoot it from distance and the athleticism to switch defensively and help the big Timberwolves centerpiece with defensive matchups. He’s a bit of a project still because he’s the youngest player in the draft and still developing his feel for the game, but he has a chance to be a legitimate difference maker by the time he hits his prime.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:10:06 PM

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Good news for us. The #4 pick is off the table.

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Atlanta has acquired New Orleans No. 4 pick in the draft for No. 8 and 17 and 35, league sources tell ESPN. Pelicans are sending Solomon Hill, No. 57 pick and a future second-round pick.

2:58 PM - Jun 20, 2019

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:23:13 PM

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Shit. We are drafting Garland.

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Minnesota has traded No. 11 and Dario Saric to Phoenix for the No. 6 pick in the draft, league source tells ESPN.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:27:16 PM

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I don't see why the Pels wouldn't want to use the #4

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:28:06 PM

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I don't see why the Pels wouldn't want to use the #4

Because its a shitty draft with no one really *worth* the 4th pick and they got better value.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:28:28 PM

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OK, Rosas. Blow my mind and take SEKOU at #6!

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:33:10 PM

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I'm over worrying about it.

Roasas and Gupta are the first people in the Wolves front office in FRANCHISE HISTORY that I trust at all. If they like someone enough to go get him, they get the benefit of the doubt from me (for now...)

The value is good. Saric is an expiring and depending on how well (or not well) he plays this year, who knows if he was even in our plans beyond the season?

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:35:24 PM

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I like the trade.

I do like Saric. He's a savvy player. But he's a bit of an enigma. It seemed uncertain if anyone could truly get the best out of him. If that's the price to move up 5 spots, so be it. Because nobody was really thrilling me at #11. #6 is far more intriguing.

I'd have been far more upset if they'd moved Covington. I think they really need his mentality and leadership.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:36:55 PM

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I like the trade.

I do like Saric. He's a savvy player. But he's a bit of an enigma. It seemed uncertain if anyone could truly get the best out of him. If that's the price to move up 5 spots, so be it. Because nobody was really thrilling me at #11. #6 is far more intriguing.

I'd have been far more upset if they'd moved Covington. I think they really need his mentality and leadership.

He's also the best value contract in the league and arguably the best 3&D wing.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:41:44 PM

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I'm over worrying about it.

Roasas and Gupta are the first people in the Wolves front office in FRANCHISE HISTORY that I trust at all. If they like someone enough to go get him, they get the benefit of the doubt from me (for now...)

The value is good. Saric is an expiring and depending on how well (or not well) he plays this year, who knows if he was even in our plans beyond the season?

I don't think that Saric really fit well here. Lots of days he looked lost. Maybe drafting a power forward. They must want somebody a lot at the 6th.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:46:27 PM

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I'm over worrying about it.

Roasas and Gupta are the first people in the Wolves front office in FRANCHISE HISTORY that I trust at all. If they like someone enough to go get him, they get the benefit of the doubt from me (for now...)

The value is good. Saric is an expiring and depending on how well (or not well) he plays this year, who knows if he was even in our plans beyond the season?

I don't think that Saric really fit well here. Lots of days he looked lost. Maybe drafting a power forward. They must want somebody a lot at the 6th.

Blame that on coaching. We ran the worst possible offense for a guy like him. I expect he'll do much better in Phoenix.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:55:37 PM

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We're still trying to trade up for Garland:

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#Cavs have had inquiries now from Minnesota, Chicago and Boston for the fifth pick, according to league sources. The price hasn't been right. Yet.

3:44 PM - Jun 20, 2019

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:56:09 PM

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Not overly concerned about the loss of Saric. Never liked him as much as many in here.
Who will it be at 6?

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:58:37 PM

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Not overly concerned about the loss of Saric. Never liked him as much as many in here.
Who will it be at 6?

Probably White as there is a feeding frenzy going on for pick 5.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 5:59:54 PM

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I'm over worrying about it.

Roasas and Gupta are the first people in the Wolves front office in FRANCHISE HISTORY that I trust at all. If they like someone enough to go get him, they get the benefit of the doubt from me (for now...)

The value is good. Saric is an expiring and depending on how well (or not well) he plays this year, who knows if he was even in our plans beyond the season?

I don't think that Saric really fit well here. Lots of days he looked lost. Maybe drafting a power forward. They must want somebody a lot at the 6th.

Blame that on coaching. We ran the worst possible offense for a guy like him. I expect he'll do much better in Phoenix.

You have to give up something to move up in the draft. The Wolves don't have a lot of tradable assets. It will make tonight a lot more interesting. It had been rumored that we were trying to get to number 4 too.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:06:17 PM

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Atlanta got #4.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:08:50 PM

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Culver at 6?

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:10:22 PM

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Tankathon "quick sheets":

Coby White:

Darius Garland:

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:10:57 PM

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Atlanta got #4.

Yes, but Ruff is right, we were trying to get it. We got out bid by Atlanta.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:11:51 PM

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Culver at 6?

We drafted him at 20 last year.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:13:56 PM

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Culver at 6?

We drafted him at 20 last year.

That's my pick.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:15:37 PM

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Culver at 6?

We drafted him at 20 last year.

That's my pick.

I don't see it. Rosas has been all about adding shooting. I don't think there is any way Okogie and Culver can play together. And Wiggins is a pretty lousy shooter too.

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RE: 2019 NBA Draft - 6/20/2019 6:19:06 PM

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Culver at 6?

We drafted him at 20 last year.

That's my pick.

I don't see it. Rosas has been all about adding shooting. I don't think there is any way Okogie and Culver can play together. And Wiggins is a pretty lousy shooter too.

Yes more of an ISO scorer. Potential to be a good 3 and D wing.
I too have no idea really what Rosas is looking for.

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