Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums  Register  Login  My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums 

Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ  Ticket List  Log Out

RE: 2019 Wolves offseason

 
Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Timberwolves >> RE: 2019 Wolves offseason Page: <<   < prev  27 28 29 [30] 31   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/28/2019 1:07:35 PM   
kgdabom

 

Posts: 29444
Joined: 7/29/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I mean we could probably trade him for John Wall right now.

That might actually be a deal where both teams lose.


Wow...Wall makes 14-15 million more than Wiggins. Would have to include Dieng in that deal.

Like I said, ... lose / lose.

I think I'd do Wiggins and Dieng for Wall. There is a better chance of Wall producing for us than Wiggins.

_____________________________

"So let it be written.
So let it be done."
Post #: 726
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/29/2019 3:04:12 PM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I mean we could probably trade him for John Wall right now.

That might actually be a deal where both teams lose.


Wow...Wall makes 14-15 million more than Wiggins. Would have to include Dieng in that deal.

Like I said, ... lose / lose.

I think I'd do Wiggins and Dieng for Wall. There is a better chance of Wall producing for us than Wiggins.


Wall can have his moments. But at that price?? The idea is to purge players with bloated salary, not make it worse.

_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 727
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/29/2019 3:16:58 PM   
TJSweens


Posts: 37960
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I mean we could probably trade him for John Wall right now.

That might actually be a deal where both teams lose.


Wow...Wall makes 14-15 million more than Wiggins. Would have to include Dieng in that deal.

Like I said, ... lose / lose.

I think I'd do Wiggins and Dieng for Wall. There is a better chance of Wall producing for us than Wiggins.


Wall can have his moments. But at that price?? The idea is to purge players with bloated salary, not make it worse.

I think it is easier to move 2 big shitty contracts than 1 massively huge, shitty contract.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 728
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/29/2019 3:29:02 PM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 19054
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
Not sure I want Wall for those 2:

Sept. 28, 2012 – Diagnosed with a non-traumatic stress injury in his left knee during pre-season. Missed the first 33 games of the season – Wizards were 5-28 during that stretch.

May 3, 2015 – Injures left wrist and hand in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Semi-finals against the Atlanta Hawks. He had five non-displaced fractures in his left wrist/hand, missed three games in the series.

Dec. 6, 2015 – Banged his right knee in a game against the Dallas Mavericks. X-rays were negative, but Wall revealed that he was dealing with a bruise on the same knee prior to the injury. Did not miss any direct time.

Apr. 6, 2016 – Wall listed as questionable with a sore right knee. Missed two games before being shut down with the team out of post-season contention. In total, he missed five games.

May 5, 2016 – Undergoes a procedure on both of his knees. His left was to ‘excise calcific deposits’ to ease the pain and his right was to remove ‘loose bodies.’

Apr. 10, 2017 – Misses two games at the end of the season due to a quad injury. Both games were for ‘rest’ because the Wizards were already locked into the No. 4 seed for the playoffs.

Nov. 5, 2017 – Wall listed with right shoulder soreness, misses one game.

Nov. 16, 2017 –MRI after left knee discomfort. He received PRP (platelet-rich plasma) injections to reduce inflammation and missed nine games from Nov. 23 to Dec. 13.

Jan. 30, 2018 – Consulted with knee specialist and will have a procedure on his left knee to ‘cleanup’ the area and ease pain. Expected to miss six to eight weeks after already missing a game.

Dec. 29, 2018 - Wall sees specialist to deal with reoccurring pain in his left heel, decides to have surgery to fix his discomfort. It is expected that he will miss 6-8 months, ending his season. Before the announcement of the injury, Wall missed four games in a four-week span.

Feb. 5, 2019 - Wizards to announce that Wall will have surgery to repair a ruptured Achilles tendon.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 729
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/29/2019 3:32:05 PM   
TJSweens


Posts: 37960
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline
I want nothing to do with Wall. Period.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 730
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/29/2019 4:07:39 PM   
kgdabom

 

Posts: 29444
Joined: 7/29/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I want nothing to do with Wall. Period.

He's incredibly better than Wiggins. If he ever plays LOL. It's a shame about his injury problems.

_____________________________

"So let it be written.
So let it be done."
Post #: 731
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/30/2019 10:30:07 AM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
Ryan was just on KFAN at the fair. I will say, he sounds exactly like the type of young modern coach we need. Everything Thibs was not.

In practice though...we’ll see. Saying all the right things is one thing, getting it done on court is another.

_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 732
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/30/2019 10:38:59 AM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
Most interesting was Ryan was asked about PG plan with Tyus and Rose gone, and Teague historically missing a lot of games.

Ryan sort of downplayed the question saying the NBA is trending more positionless, Etc.

While that may be true, a plan of ‘Teague and just wing it after that’ is not real comforting. PG play could be a glaring problem this year.

_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 733
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 8/30/2019 11:01:46 AM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 19054
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Most interesting was Ryan was asked about PG plan with Tyus and Rose gone, and Teague historically missing a lot of games.

Ryan sort of downplayed the question saying the NBA is trending more positionless, Etc.

While that may be true, a plan of ‘Teague and just wing it after that’ is not real comforting. PG play could be a glaring problem this year.


Napier is a pretty good option.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 734
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/2/2019 1:06:48 AM   
JT2

 

Posts: 13461
Joined: 2/15/2011
From: United States
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I mean we could probably trade him for John Wall right now.

That might actually be a deal where both teams lose.


Wow...Wall makes 14-15 million more than Wiggins. Would have to include Dieng in that deal.

Like I said, ... lose / lose.

I think I'd do Wiggins and Dieng for Wall. There is a better chance of Wall producing for us than Wiggins.


Wall can have his moments. But at that price?? The idea is to purge players with bloated salary, not make it worse.



A healthy Wall would be a no-brainer. Basketball-wise.

Healthy Wall goes baseline to baseline as quickly as anybody in the league. Wall can run your offense in transition or the half court. Wall can feed the post. Wall is really strong, fast and athletic. He's a reluctant shooter, which is a good thing, for him.

A healthy Wall would absolutely change this team for the better. Unfortunately, I don't think it would be a wise gamble betting on his recovery and future health.
Post #: 735
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/5/2019 7:35:27 PM   
Matt Lang


Posts: 5337
Joined: 7/30/2007
Status: offline
Redrafting the NBA:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27480112/the-nba-superstars-pick-start-franchise

Towns gets some consideration for the last pick.
Post #: 736
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/11/2019 10:58:07 AM   
David Levine


Posts: 70974
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline
Adrian Wojnarowski✔@wojespn
Sources: Minnesota hiring ROC Nation agent Joe Branch as assistant GM. Branch completes a front office transformation under Gersson Rosas. Branch’s clients included Caris LeVert, Justise Winslow and Josh Hart. His resume includes Nike, league office and Northwestern basketball.

7:31 AM - Sep 10, 2019
Post #: 737
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/25/2019 6:19:52 PM   
kgdabom

 

Posts: 29444
Joined: 7/29/2007
Status: offline
ESPN rankings are out and RoCo at #97???????

However, this is the blurb next to that ranking.

Andre Snellings on Covington's rank: At No. 97, Covington is cartoonishly underrated if healthy. He quietly plays Defensive Player of the Year-caliber D, with Rudy Gobert as the only player in the NBA to rank higher than Covington in defensive RPM in each of the past three seasons. Covington had injury issues last season, but in 2017-18, he measured eighth in the NBA in overall impact as determined by RPM, and all seven of the players in front of him that season are consensus top-25 guys when healthy.

8th in the NBA in Impact. That is crazy good.

_____________________________

"So let it be written.
So let it be done."
Post #: 738
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/26/2019 2:05:01 PM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

ESPN rankings are out and RoCo at #97???????

However, this is the blurb next to that ranking.

Andre Snellings on Covington's rank: At No. 97, Covington is cartoonishly underrated if healthy. He quietly plays Defensive Player of the Year-caliber D, with Rudy Gobert as the only player in the NBA to rank higher than Covington in defensive RPM in each of the past three seasons. Covington had injury issues last season, but in 2017-18, he measured eighth in the NBA in overall impact as determined by RPM, and all seven of the players in front of him that season are consensus top-25 guys when healthy.

8th in the NBA in Impact. That is crazy good.


That's seems about right. Considering there are 30 NBA teams, on an average team he'd be the 4th best player.

If he stays healthy He could really flourish here and raise that rating.

_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 739
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 9/26/2019 2:30:51 PM   
David Levine


Posts: 70974
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

ESPN rankings are out and RoCo at #97???????

However, this is the blurb next to that ranking.

Andre Snellings on Covington's rank: At No. 97, Covington is cartoonishly underrated if healthy. He quietly plays Defensive Player of the Year-caliber D, with Rudy Gobert as the only player in the NBA to rank higher than Covington in defensive RPM in each of the past three seasons. Covington had injury issues last season, but in 2017-18, he measured eighth in the NBA in overall impact as determined by RPM, and all seven of the players in front of him that season are consensus top-25 guys when healthy.

8th in the NBA in Impact. That is crazy good.


That's seems about right. Considering there are 30 NBA teams, on an average team he'd be the 4th best player.

If he stays healthy He could really flourish here and raise that rating.


Nah. Covington is WAY better than that. The best overall wing defender in the game and an elite 3pt shooter.

But if I got my panties in a bunch every time ESPN said something stupid, I'd have eternally bunched panties.
Post #: 740
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 10:47:35 AM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
According to Teague, who habitually arrives early to work out, Culver and Wiggins have been regularly beating him there, and working hard.

There have been good reports on Wiggins all off season, working hard, having heart to heart sessions with film and analytics about shot selection and offensive philosophy which he has been receptive to.

If he could turn it around, that would be massive. But I think I speak for everyone here who has been repeatedly worn down by him - Show us. We’ll believe it when we see it.

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 10/2/2019 10:49:44 AM >


_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 741
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 11:16:52 AM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 19054
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke
According to Teague, who habitually arrives early to work out, Culver and Wiggins have been regularly beating him there, and working hard.
There have been good reports on Wiggins all off season, working hard, having heart to heart sessions with film and analytics about shot selection and offensive philosophy which he has been receptive to.
If he could turn it around, that would be massive. But I think I speak for everyone here who has been repeatedly worn down by him - Show us. We’ll believe it when we see it.


One of the longest tenured Wolves now. I think drafting Culver, having RoCo, and Okogie around where there is enough wings----he won't get playing time if he doesn't improve.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 742
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 11:25:11 AM   
TJSweens


Posts: 37960
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

According to Teague, who habitually arrives early to work out, Culver and Wiggins have been regularly beating him there, and working hard.

There have been good reports on Wiggins all off season, working hard, having heart to heart sessions with film and analytics about shot selection and offensive philosophy which he has been receptive to.

If he could turn it around, that would be massive. But I think I speak for everyone here who has been repeatedly worn down by him - Show us. We’ll believe it when we see it.

Yes, it would be the greatest thing that could happen to the Wolves if Wiggins suddenly became that player. On one hand, you have an organization that seems to be dedicating a lot of time and resources to deliver a unified message and put a plan in place and dedicate the resources to get him there. Probably the first time in his career that he has had an organization speak to him with one voice and give him a game plan.

On the other hand, Andrew Wiggins has been Andrew Wiggins for several years now and it's hard to imagine him being anything, but that same Andrew Wiggins. I hope for the best, but expect the worst.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 743
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 1:33:00 PM   
wrh

 

Posts: 168
Joined: 11/15/2007
Status: offline
Ref Andrew Wiggins: I am only speculating here, but didn't Wigs have his first child last year? I have no idea on his relationship status, maybe stable maybe in flux but I could easily see how a newborn could disrupt an athlete's life and be a major distraction. Hopefully he is adjusting to being a man with responsibilities and all that means.
Post #: 744
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 2:07:35 PM   
David Levine


Posts: 70974
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: wrh

Ref Andrew Wiggins: I am only speculating here, but didn't Wigs have his first child last year? I have no idea on his relationship status, maybe stable maybe in flux but I could easily see how a newborn could disrupt an athlete's life and be a major distraction. Hopefully he is adjusting to being a man with responsibilities and all that means.


What about all the years before that?
Post #: 745
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 2:56:17 PM   
TJSweens


Posts: 37960
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: wrh

Ref Andrew Wiggins: I am only speculating here, but didn't Wigs have his first child last year? I have no idea on his relationship status, maybe stable maybe in flux but I could easily see how a newborn could disrupt an athlete's life and be a major distraction. Hopefully he is adjusting to being a man with responsibilities and all that means.


What about all the years before that?

He was distracted by constantly wondering what it would be like to have a kid.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 746
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/2/2019 3:52:44 PM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 9834
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
Speaking of Culver, has there ever been less fanfare and hype surrounding a #6 pick? I blame that stupid NBA policy where draft day trade players can't be introduced by their new teams for two weeks or whatever. By then nobody is paying attention any more and the player gets forgotten.

I think he could fantastic. He's an energy guy, like Covington and Okoge. This could be a fun unit to watch.

_____________________________

C’mon man
Post #: 747
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/3/2019 4:01:57 PM   
ruffenach

 

Posts: 3636
Joined: 1/12/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Speaking of Culver, has there ever been less fanfare and hype surrounding a #6 pick? I blame that stupid NBA policy where draft day trade players can't be introduced by their new teams for two weeks or whatever. By then nobody is paying attention any more and the player gets forgotten.

I think he could fantastic. He's an energy guy, like Covington and Okoge. This could be a fun unit to watch.

I am not real concerned about how much fanfare he gets. If he plays well, he will get plenty of publicity. We have a team that could be very exciting. It may take time for the players to learn and to jell. I wish Wiggins well, but he may not play that well like before. The burden is on him. There are a lot of new players who can develop and push the others, which will be good. Ryan can provide communications and encouragement and rely on his assistance to teach the players new skills. I am very concerned that we don't have a more experience back up point guard, but this will give guys great opportunities.
Post #: 748
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/3/2019 4:13:55 PM   
David Levine


Posts: 70974
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Speaking of Culver, has there ever been less fanfare and hype surrounding a #6 pick? I blame that stupid NBA policy where draft day trade players can't be introduced by their new teams for two weeks or whatever. By then nobody is paying attention any more and the player gets forgotten.

I think he could fantastic. He's an energy guy, like Covington and Okoge. This could be a fun unit to watch.


Really, really weak draft. Its not just Culver getting no hype, no one outside of Williamson is getting any.

Zion is a special talent that would go Top 2 in almost any draft, but the next 5 guys would likely be fringe lottery talent at best in a "usual" draft.

I like Culver a lot, but he's a definite project - especially regarding his shot.
Post #: 749
RE: 2019 Wolves offseason - 10/4/2019 11:07:55 AM   
ruffenach

 

Posts: 3636
Joined: 1/12/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Speaking of Culver, has there ever been less fanfare and hype surrounding a #6 pick? I blame that stupid NBA policy where draft day trade players can't be introduced by their new teams for two weeks or whatever. By then nobody is paying attention any more and the player gets forgotten.

I think he could fantastic. He's an energy guy, like Covington and Okoge. This could be a fun unit to watch.


Really, really weak draft. Its not just Culver getting no hype, no one outside of Williamson is getting any.

Zion is a special talent that would go Top 2 in almost any draft, but the next 5 guys would likely be fringe lottery talent at best in a "usual" draft.

I like Culver a lot, but he's a definite project - especially regarding his shot.


Most of the players in most drafts are projects. Sometimes even the number 1 pick. I like Culver and hope we can coach him up.
Post #: 750
Page:   <<   < prev  27 28 29 [30] 31   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Timberwolves >> RE: 2019 Wolves offseason Page: <<   < prev  27 28 29 [30] 31   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5.5 Unicode