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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 9:36:40 AM

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Shows just how much Rodgers is in Zimmers head... Anything to win a couple of games against Green Bay a year... Weak minded desperation play to save his job, get some inside info on Aaron form former coach who faced his every day in practice...

Zimmer is as clueless as his antiquated cronies he has put togther to man the Viking longboat this year... This voyage is looking like a funeral pire unfortunately...

BTW Capers is huge proponent of the 3-4 defense, so WTF gives here? What does bringing in a coach who preaches a completely different scheme do for your team as a Senior Assistant? Makes perfect sense I guess to Zimmer...

Just a guess but haven't we held Rodgers in check the last 5-6 games or so.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 9:38:51 AM

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Could Dom get Zim to rush Barr and Hunter at the same time?

Feel the excitement.

Are we switching to a 3-4?

(Has Dom coached anything else?)

Zimmer is still the defacto defensive lead here.
What Dom can bring is decades of experience and maybe adding a few wrinkles from a 3-4 defense will add some unpredictability for opposing OCs.

they are not standing still, and that is a good thing.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 10:21:16 AM

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Nagy? K Shanahan? McVay? McDaniels? Etc....

Bellicheck. Reid.

yeah....these new young guys are schooling the old guys.....

Relax.

I had to 5 star this post ...

Even though it invokes an erin Rodgers quote....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 10:22:26 AM

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Could Dom get Zim to rush Barr and Hunter at the same time?

Feel the excitement.

Are we switching to a 3-4?

(Has Dom coached anything else?)

Zimmer is still the defacto defensive lead here.
What Dom can bring is decades of experience and maybe adding a few wrinkles from a 3-4 defense will add some unpredictability for opposing OCs.

they are not standing still, and that is a good thing.

The Zimmer is a Dictator crowd now unhappy that he is bringing in someone with different scheme ideas.

Also, Kubiak has been pretty successful when he has full control.

One last thing, the reason Capers sucked in GB the last few years is because they(Front Office) ignored the defense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 10:27:52 AM

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Nagy? K Shanahan? McVay? McDaniels? Etc....

Bellicheck. Reid.

yeah....these new young guys are schooling the old guys.....

Relax.

Sure, if you have an old guy that not only changes with the league, but is usually at the forefront of said changes.

Nothing about our "Golden Guys" cast of coaching seems to fit in that box.

So which one will be the guy to date Blanche Devereaux?

Apparently not Zimmer:

https://twitter.com/barstooltweetss/status/1225212769198395392

I'd bet Zim just continually plows straight ahead, suffers in time management, and only goes for it on her side of the bed......

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 11:34:39 AM

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The Capers hire feels to me like just like the Kubiak hire last year. Make sure Stefanski doesn't f'up

He's playing Richard to Zimmer's kid (Tommy boy).

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 12:04:58 PM

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The Capers hire feels to me like just like the Kubiak hire last year. Make sure Stefanski doesn't f'up

He's playing Richard to Zimmer's kid (Tommy boy).

It feels to me like this coaching staff needs an enema.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 12:39:02 PM

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The Capers hire feels to me like just like the Kubiak hire last year. Make sure Stefanski doesn't f'up

He's playing Richard to Zimmer's kid (Tommy boy).

It feels to me like this coaching staff needs an enema.

I find it very interesting that they hired a Defensive consultant that is an expert in a style of defense that Zimmer doesn't run. I think it is meant to help add more diverse playcalling and challenge the stubborn way Zimmer likes to do things. He may be challenging himself with this hire to evolve or die.

He's looking for new innovations. JMO

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 12:42:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The Capers hire feels to me like just like the Kubiak hire last year. Make sure Stefanski doesn't f'up

He's playing Richard to Zimmer's kid (Tommy boy).

It feels to me like this coaching staff needs an enema.

I find it very interesting that they hired a Defensive consultant that is an expert in a style of defense that Zimmer doesn't run. I think it is meant to help add more diverse playcalling and challenge the stubborn way Zimmer likes to do things. He may be challenging himself with this hire to evolve or die.

He's looking for new innovations. JMO

So Capers is more of a laxative.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 12:48:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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The Capers hire feels to me like just like the Kubiak hire last year. Make sure Stefanski doesn't f'up

He's playing Richard to Zimmer's kid (Tommy boy).

It feels to me like this coaching staff needs an enema.

I find it very interesting that they hired a Defensive consultant that is an expert in a style of defense that Zimmer doesn't run. I think it is meant to help add more diverse playcalling and challenge the stubborn way Zimmer likes to do things. He may be challenging himself with this hire to evolve or die.

He's looking for new innovations. JMO

So Capers is more of a laxative.

Not so much Ex lax .... more of a bran muffin.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 12:52:04 PM

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Yeah, the 3-4 experience was what puzzled me, too.

Does anyone see us switching to a 3-4 over the 4-3?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 1:09:27 PM

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Or possibly a hybrid defense? It's interesting that he would bring Capers in w/ his background.

It would be refreshing to see Zim embrace a different approach even if it wasn't a wholesale change. Who knows? It might reinvigorate him.

Edit: Oops, didn't see the same question just above.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 1:33:36 PM

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Dont believe any of it with concern to changing Zimmer vaunted D ways, Sort of like what we all mused with bringing in George Iloka and all these visions of packages and innovative schemes, NOT...

Yes Man George Edwards wanted out, or was shown door, because he didnt want to be guy picking up sugar daddy Zimmers 30 year old girl friend from airport and making sure she could find her way to stadiums on away games... Didnt trust the young guys, including putting his Son in that position... So bring in some fossil older than him that is no threat... Assistant to the D Coordinator... Exactly his role... Hey Dom, grab my dry cleaning while you are at it, ok buddy...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 1:37:10 PM

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Or possibly a hybrid defense? It's interesting that he would bring Capers in w/ his background.

It would be refreshing to see Zim embrace a different approach even if it wasn't a wholesale change. Who knows? It might reinvigorate him.

Edit: Oops, didn't see the same question just above.

It depends on how open Zimmer is to things.

He's shown a very "my way or the highway" with other coaches before - usually on offense. Will he be able to compromise with someone who does things so differently on HIS side of the ball?

This feels more like a Norv Turner (different philosophy than Zim) thing than a Kubiak thing (also wants to run the ball a lot).

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 1:58:55 PM

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Dont believe any of it with concern to changing Zimmer vaunted D ways, Sort of like what we all mused with bringing in George Iloka and all these visions of packages and innovative schemes, NOT...

Yes Man George Edwards wanted out, or was shown door, because he didnt want to be guy picking up sugar daddy Zimmers 30 year old girl friend from airport and making sure she could find her way to stadiums on away games... Didnt trust the young guys, including putting his Son in that position... So bring in some fossil older than him that is no threat... Assistant to the D Coordinator... Exactly his role... Hey Dom, grab my dry cleaning while you are at it, ok buddy...

Kind of hard to respond to what seemed a jealous 2nd sentence....A single, widowed, rich guy can date whomever he wants. Capers has a ton of experience and the defense has been good at Zimmer's helm. If they go 10-6 or above with these guys coaching I won't complain. Capers and Kubiak can coach.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 1:59:01 PM

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Dont believe any of it with concern to changing Zimmer vaunted D ways, Sort of like what we all mused with bringing in George Iloka and all these visions of packages and innovative schemes, NOT...

Yes Man George Edwards wanted out, or was shown door, because he didnt want to be guy picking up sugar daddy Zimmers 30 year old girl friend from airport and making sure she could find her way to stadiums on away games... Didnt trust the young guys, including putting his Son in that position... So bring in some fossil older than him that is no threat... Assistant to the D Coordinator... Exactly his role... Hey Dom, grab my dry cleaning while you are at it, ok buddy...

Zimmer didn't have to do anything.

Why would he bring him in?

A) To show the Ragnaroks of the world that he can bring in another perspective(although it is just for show).

or

B) He sees that his defense is not what it once was and he knows it needs some new wrinkles.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 2:00:08 PM

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Or possibly a hybrid defense? It's interesting that he would bring Capers in w/ his background.

It would be refreshing to see Zim embrace a different approach even if it wasn't a wholesale change. Who knows? It might reinvigorate him.

Edit: Oops, didn't see the same question just above.

It depends on how open Zimmer is to things.

He's shown a very "my way or the highway" with other coaches before - usually on offense. Will he be able to compromise with someone who does things so differently on HIS side of the ball?

This feels more like a Norv Turner (different philosophy than Zim) thing than a Kubiak thing (also wants to run the ball a lot).

That was my first thought, too. Then again, we have guys like Hunter, Kendricks, and Barr who could be used in some really innovative ways. Being open-minded is the key, though.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 2:21:00 PM

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No Sense of humor

on Sugar Daddy Zimmers new squeeze

I married a gal 15 years younger than myself... So I have no room talk, but she was no cover model twenty five years my youth... ( jealous...

)

If he’s significantly older, she’s got daddy issues, They usually call them sugar babies, because these are generally women seeking financial arrangements if the man is in his forties or older, unless he’s a George Clooney type. Most of these men seeking younger women aren’t.

No young woman looks at a middle aged man with a saggy bottom and changing body and says, “Wow! I gotta have that.”

Look at her pix... Way to go Zimm! This shouldnt be any distraction to his game day prep and execution...

https://sontlive.com/2020/02/05/who-would-have-known-vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-is-dating-a-model/

SHE LOOKS DAMN GOOD IN PURPLE !

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 3:03:51 PM

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On a more serious note...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/11/mike-zimmer-wanted-dom-capers-for-some-fresh-ideas/

Maybe with Zimmer getting some happy endings now the Vikes season will as well~

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 9:19:33 PM

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No Sense of humor on Sugar Daddy Zimmers new squeeze

I married a gal 15 years younger than myself... So I have no room talk, but she was no cover model twenty five years my youth... ( jealous... )

If he’s significantly older, she’s got daddy issues, They usually call them sugar babies, because these are generally women seeking financial arrangements if the man is in his forties or older, unless he’s a George Clooney type. Most of these men seeking younger women aren’t.

No young woman looks at a middle aged man with a saggy bottom and changing body and says, “Wow! I gotta have that.”

Look at her pix... Way to go Zimm! This shouldnt be any distraction to his game day prep and execution...

https://sontlive.com/2020/02/05/who-would-have-known-vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-is-dating-a-model/

SHE LOOKS DAMN GOOD IN PURPLE !

You bored or obsessed?

The TMZ generation. Great.

Who cares about his personal life as long as it isn't negatively impacting the community or team?

Just out of curiosity, is there one member of the current Viking organization that you even kind of like?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 9:28:02 PM

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No Sense of humor on Sugar Daddy Zimmers new squeeze

I married a gal 15 years younger than myself... So I have no room talk, but she was no cover model twenty five years my youth... ( jealous... )

If he’s significantly older, she’s got daddy issues, They usually call them sugar babies, because these are generally women seeking financial arrangements if the man is in his forties or older, unless he’s a George Clooney type. Most of these men seeking younger women aren’t.

No young woman looks at a middle aged man with a saggy bottom and changing body and says, “Wow! I gotta have that.”

Look at her pix... Way to go Zimm! This shouldnt be any distraction to his game day prep and execution...

https://sontlive.com/2020/02/05/who-would-have-known-vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-is-dating-a-model/

SHE LOOKS DAMN GOOD IN PURPLE !

Be sure and consult a doctor if you have an erection that lasts 4 hours or longer

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2020 9:32:09 PM 1 votes

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

No Sense of humor on Sugar Daddy Zimmers new squeeze

I married a gal 15 years younger than myself... So I have no room talk, but she was no cover model twenty five years my youth... ( jealous... )

If he’s significantly older, she’s got daddy issues, They usually call them sugar babies, because these are generally women seeking financial arrangements if the man is in his forties or older, unless he’s a George Clooney type. Most of these men seeking younger women aren’t.

No young woman looks at a middle aged man with a saggy bottom and changing body and says, “Wow! I gotta have that.”

Look at her pix... Way to go Zimm! This shouldnt be any distraction to his game day prep and execution...

https://sontlive.com/2020/02/05/who-would-have-known-vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-is-dating-a-model/

SHE LOOKS DAMN GOOD IN PURPLE !

Be sure and consult a doctor if you have an erection that lasts 4 hours or longer

That only happens for him when Cousins has a bad game...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2020 8:03:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

No Sense of humor on Sugar Daddy Zimmers new squeeze

I married a gal 15 years younger than myself... So I have no room talk, but she was no cover model twenty five years my youth... ( jealous... )

If he’s significantly older, she’s got daddy issues, They usually call them sugar babies, because these are generally women seeking financial arrangements if the man is in his forties or older, unless he’s a George Clooney type. Most of these men seeking younger women aren’t.

No young woman looks at a middle aged man with a saggy bottom and changing body and says, “Wow! I gotta have that.”

Look at her pix... Way to go Zimm! This shouldnt be any distraction to his game day prep and execution...

https://sontlive.com/2020/02/05/who-would-have-known-vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-is-dating-a-model/

SHE LOOKS DAMN GOOD IN PURPLE !

Be sure and consult a doctor if you have an erection that lasts 4 hours or longer

That only happens for him when Cousins has a bad game...

Well played David!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2020 1:21:24 PM

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https://buildahead.com/product/kirk-cousins-smiley-face/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2020 2:02:32 PM

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Some good points and direction in this article we all know need to be made...

Elephant in room is still Diggs and his happiness in Minnesota... Tough to advocate moving on, but he has upside in trade value NOW... before he blows up again and potentially forces himself out of MN... Pure speculation/ vision but would drafting Diggs brother have any positive effect on his attitude and moping ways?

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_must_rebuild_defense_to_be_seen_as_super_bowl_contenders/s1_12680_31287182

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