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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 9:59:44 AM   
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Expect the Falcons to load the box. Play action might help against that.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:10:46 AM   
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Expect the Falcons to load the box. Play action might help against that.



Play action is going to help us against everything we go up against unless we simply never generate a rushing game.

I do love this blocking scheme for Dalvin though. Stick his foot in the ground after he finds a hole moving laterally and explode. Also works great in play action to give Cousins more time. We are not going to be a downhill, road grating offense.

With the size of our OLine (or lack thereof) this is our best shot at having success.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:22:51 AM   
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Looking at the depth chart we can see that Abdullah is the kick and punt returner. I believe that's why he's on the team. I did think that he had more juice as a returner than any of the others.

https://www.vikings.com/team/depth-chart


The ball certainly comes out of his grasp with more juice.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:34:22 AM   
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Expect the Falcons to load the box. Play action might help against that.



Play action is going to help us against everything we go up against unless we simply never generate a rushing game.

I do love this blocking scheme for Dalvin though. Stick his foot in the ground after he finds a hole moving laterally and explode. Also works great in play action to give Cousins more time. We are not going to be a downhill, road grating offense.

With the size of our OLine (or lack thereof) this is our best shot at having success.


IF defenses go with a lot of run blitzes we have to make them pay with play action/roll outs/quick hitters/misdirection to back them out of it. This often equates to what seems like a check down offense. The need to consistently make plays to move the ball down field requires mistake free football, defenses are looking for the one screw up by the offense that puts the offense in a bad way, 2nd and 15, 3 and 10 etc that allows the defense to dictate. This is essentially the defense that limited the Vikes offense in early 1999 after the record breaking 1998 season.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:35:09 AM   
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Mike Zimmer said Brian O'neill will play Sunday.

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Mike Zimmer said Mike Hughes is "getting real close" to a return. We'll see what that means, but Zimmer sounded more optimistic about the Vikings' cornerback depth.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:39:08 AM   
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Expect the Falcons to load the box. Play action might help against that.



also, expect some very long runs....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 10:43:23 AM   
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The Cowboys are paying #1 money to their RB, RG, possibly QB & WR.. top 10 LT $, top 5 RT $..

All to keep together the 24th ranked DVOA offense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 11:04:42 AM   
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Looking at the depth chart we can see that Abdullah is the kick and punt returner. I believe that's why he's on the team. I did think that he had more juice as a returner than any of the others.

https://www.vikings.com/team/depth-chart

That's what Abdullah does. Just hold on to the ball.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 11:48:16 AM   
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Looking at the depth chart we can see that Abdullah is the kick and punt returner. I believe that's why he's on the team. I did think that he had more juice as a returner than any of the others.

https://www.vikings.com/team/depth-chart

That's what Abdullah does. Just hold on to the ball.

Abdullah had 5 fumbles his rookie year (2015)!!!

However, in the three years since, he has had 3 fumbles on 239 RUSH/REC/RET touches.

Dalvin Cook had 2 fumbles last season ... on 173 RUSH/REC touches.

Because of his rookie year, Abdullah will always seem like a fumble waiting to happen but he has certainly improved on it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 11:52:41 AM   
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The Cowboys are paying #1 money to their RB, RG, possibly QB & WR.. top 10 LT $, top 5 RT $..

All to keep together the 24th ranked DVOA offense.


They have managed their cap pretty well...before signing Zeke and Collings they have 20 million in cap space

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 12:59:14 PM   
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Great news!!

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/9/4/20849328/zimmer-brian-oneill-will-play


Big question mark answered heading into the game. ONeil >>>>>> Hill

Hope we can kick Hill to the curb sooner rather than later.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 1:07:12 PM   
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Great news!!

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/9/4/20849328/zimmer-brian-oneill-will-play


Big question mark answered heading into the game. ONeil >>>>>> Hill

Hope we can kick Hill to the curb sooner rather than later.


Hope O'neill is ready, hasn't got a lot of game work this preseason.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 1:41:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Looking at the depth chart we can see that Abdullah is the kick and punt returner. I believe that's why he's on the team. I did think that he had more juice as a returner than any of the others.

https://www.vikings.com/team/depth-chart

That's what Abdullah does. Just hold on to the ball.

Abdullah had 5 fumbles his rookie year (2015)!!!

However, in the three years since, he has had 3 fumbles on 239 RUSH/REC/RET touches.

Dalvin Cook had 2 fumbles last season ... on 173 RUSH/REC touches.

Because of his rookie year, Abdullah will always seem like a fumble waiting to happen but he has certainly improved on it.

Good research. I'm remembering the problems he had at Nebraska.
I also remember 2 years ago when the Vikings couldn't tackle him when Detroit beat us at Home.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 2:14:21 PM   
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Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 2:20:19 PM   
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Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 2:29:06 PM   
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This is a nice interview with our assistant defensive line coach. Go to the 13:00 minute mark to go directly to the football talk.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-paul-allen-kfan-fm-1003-26980875/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 2:52:34 PM   
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Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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54m
Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.

Mark Craig
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1h
All Vikings present, but Diggs not practicing and only one not in uniform during brief portion open to media.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 3:08:29 PM   
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Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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54m
Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.


The deep recesses of his mind.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 3:21:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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54m
Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.


The deep recesses of his mind.

Yeah, I call it Mark Craig.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 3:23:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.


The deep recesses of his mind.

Yeah, I call it Mark Craig.

Face it dude, your mind is always at recess.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 3:25:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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54m
Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.


The deep recesses of his mind.

Yeah, I call it Mark Craig.


That's creepy.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 4:21:48 PM   
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Diggs has hammy issue, getting in midseason form right off...

Also speculation Diggs is seeking a bump in his pay...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 4:26:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Something's going on with Diggs. He didn't practice today.

Who’s your source?

Chris Tomasson
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54m
Vikings CB Mike Hughes is Practicing today at least on a limited basis as he works his way back from a knee injury is wearing a knee brace everybody is practicing today for Vikings including Brian O’Neill.

Mark Craig
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All Vikings present, but Diggs not practicing and only one not in uniform during brief portion open to media.


Thanks
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 4:32:10 PM   
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Diggs has hammy issue, getting in midseason form right off...

Also speculation Diggs is seeking a bump in his pay...


That's pretty irritating. Glad we didn't play him in the last preseason game.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/4/2019 6:27:59 PM   
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I guess a 4th-string scrub TE is more important than making sure the OL is a little more solid, especially since Elf is struggling. Rick must be in pain to lose the 7th he gave up for Jones.

I wonder if part of getting the punter who can hold is so well is so Beebe can be dumped if he keeps imitating Treadwell. I'm good with giving Docston a shot, even though Zimmer can't be happy about his lack of ST play and poor blocking.


I think keeping 10 of the 12 they drafted this year was a bigger key....they also put the other 2 on the PS. Can't keep them all but they have kept a majority of their picks on the roster.


You keep bringing this up. Guess the roster wasn't as good/deep as you thought. And they couldn't afford to do much more than bring in a bunch of lower picks.
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