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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:41:15 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:46:21 PM   
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It does no good to harp about why we have KC. And he has a $41 million dead cap hit next year. With a $31 million charge, he could be released but it's very doubtful.

Geez, it's like JC yelling for months about not accepting mediocrity. We get it. Why piss in the wind?

It would be the perfect year to draft Lance or Wilson.

Sit for a year(Mahomes did) and become starting QB in 2022.


Agreed... especially if they lose out.
I would be ecstatic if either Lance/Wilson was drafted... but not overly optimistic about it.

I guess 2022 is supposed to be a good QB year as well... the lament of the Viking fan... chasing the dream of a franchise QB.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:46:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:49:27 PM   
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if there's one thing this team needs, I always say ... it's more religion.

All I know is the guy wins.

I thought that was the main theme in here. Win.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:51:33 PM   
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if there's one thing this team needs, I always say ... it's more religion.



I doubt it. There was, at LEAST, 43 times yesterday that I yelled "OH MY LORD" and not in a good way.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:53:50 PM   
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if there's one thing this team needs, I always say ... it's more religion.



The much safer "Thoughts N Prayers" from Mississippi State could be had in the first round.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:54:30 PM   
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if there's one thing this team needs, I always say ... it's more religion.



I doubt it. There was, at LEAST, 43 times yesterday that I yelled "OH MY LORD" and not in a good way.

I had to chuckle while typing that too
By far, the most times I scream out biblical terms in a week, is during Viking games
There's other "words" sprinkled in, but hey ....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:55:51 PM   
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if there's one thing this team needs, I always say ... it's more religion.

All I know is the guy wins.

I thought that was the main theme in here. Win.


Nah, he (Mr. Religion) is winning less in the modern era

Jim Thorpe era is long gone.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 12/21/2020 1:02:07 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 12:59:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:09:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

What???
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:12:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

I would say LBJ is an Activist/Capitalist.

And I hope he goes back to back this year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:15:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

What???


I know man. it's tough to read, let alone accept, things you don't get in the echo chambers. https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:17:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

I would say LBJ is an Activist/Capitalist.

And I hope he goes back to back this year.


Agreed. And a good family man from what I can tell.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:19:44 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

I would say LBJ is an Activist/Capitalist.

And I hope he goes back to back this year.


Agreed. And a good family man from what I can tell.

Yes. He could be the MLK of his generation if he(and others of influence) pushed Father/Family Man narrative. It would change generations.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:22:04 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?



You mean like Thomas Jefferson's close relationships? Or like coming over to his house for bible study close relationships?

If there are some allegations, show me. If not, quit making stuff up.

I don't agree with Phil Jackson's politics or religious beliefs at all, but I'm glad he coached the Lakers to 5 titles.



No need for allegations, DNA is adequate.

OMG, Jackson must have been hell for you lol! Meditation? Yikes! Yin/Yang? Your head probably spun like in the Exorcist!

Seriously, how do you separate LeBron the player from LeBron the perceived person?

What???


I know man. it's tough to read, let alone accept, things you don't get in the echo chambers. https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

Okay. I get it now.

We had our wires crossed. I was still talking about Dabo.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:23:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?

He seems, to me, from a distance---but with a megaphone---like he falls into the broad swath of Americans and human kind that I call "otherists." We see it in here, and I'm sure at times I practice it in ways I may or may not be aware of. It doesn't have to be racial, religious, or political, but it often is, at least just below the surface. I just know that I've read enough cringe-worthy quotes from him over the years regarding how grateful his players should be that they're not burdened with making money off the game, politics, religion, etc. To be clear, I've never heard anything directly racist, and I've seen some great things he's said. But even those things seemed mere pablum from a cliche-meister like him. Maybe I'd be swayed by closer examination, but my suspicion is that it would be the opposite. He also seems like too much of a personal control freak to get NFL players to buy in long-term.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:26:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?

He seems, to me, from a distance---but with a megaphone---like he falls into the broad swath of Americans and human kind that I call "otherists." We see it in here, and I'm sure at times I practice it in ways I may or may not be aware of. It doesn't have to be racial, religious, or political, but it often is, at least just below the surface. I just know that I've read enough cringe-worthy quotes from him over the years regarding how grateful his players should be that they're not burdened with making money off the game, politics, religion, etc. To be clear, I've never heard anything directly racist, and I've seen some great things he's said. But even those things seemed mere pablum from a cliche-meister like him. Maybe I'd be swayed by closer examination, but my suspicion is that it would be the opposite. He also seems like too much of a personal control freak to get NFL players to buy in long-term.

I see what you are saying.

Same with Saban and other top college coaches who couldn't make the transition.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:55:37 PM   
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Brad, Have you seen the improvement in cousins in the last 5 or 6 games?

moving in pocket better, not great, but better.

Running at times. mostly for his life.

is overpaid, but have little choice for another year.

OL and play calling a bigger problem.

Bottom line is that Cousins is not worth anything close to what he is being paid. He is also not close to one of the ten worst QB in football.

Name 10 starting quarterbacks that are worse.

Mullens
Lock
Goff
Jones


It's actually closer than I thought:

Better than:
Cam Newton
Darnold
Carr
Smith
Trubisky

Debatable:

Bridgewater
Garoppolo
Wentz
Ryan
Tua
Burrow
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 1:59:34 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:02:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dungy.
Tomlin.
Stefanski?

Wilfs could see what Dabo wants.

Maybe Bieniemy.

I would stop pulling for the Vikings instantly if Dabo were the coach. I think he's probably a decent guy overall, but a massive bloviating hypocritical cliche-meister who thinks everyone has to be just like him and his kind.

Hardest of hard passes.....

I must have missed something.

What does "his kind" mean?

Essentially people who agree with him about everything, and conduct themselves within narrow parameters. Not necessarily strict racial, religious, or political alignment, but not far off, either.

I would doubt he is a racist with all the close relationships he has with his players.

I'm guessing he is Christian and is not a Liberal. Is that the problem?

He seems, to me, from a distance---but with a megaphone---like he falls into the broad swath of Americans and human kind that I call "otherists." We see it in here, and I'm sure at times I practice it in ways I may or may not be aware of. It doesn't have to be racial, religious, or political, but it often is, at least just below the surface. I just know that I've read enough cringe-worthy quotes from him over the years regarding how grateful his players should be that they're not burdened with making money off the game, politics, religion, etc. To be clear, I've never heard anything directly racist, and I've seen some great things he's said. But even those things seemed mere pablum from a cliche-meister like him. Maybe I'd be swayed by closer examination, but my suspicion is that it would be the opposite. He also seems like too much of a personal control freak to get NFL players to buy in long-term.

I see what you are saying.

Same with Saban and other top college coaches who couldn't make the transition.


Saban was on his way to turning around the Dolphins. What might have changed had they taken the chance on Drew Brees' shoulder. I believe Saban was on board with going for Brees. Imagine Saban with Brees and Wes Welker battling the Pats for years.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:03:54 PM   
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Lions fired their special teams coach. He called a fake punt without telling the head coach.


Yeah, but he isn't a REAL head coach, is he?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:04:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

Brad, Have you seen the improvement in cousins in the last 5 or 6 games?

moving in pocket better, not great, but better.

Running at times. mostly for his life.

is overpaid, but have little choice for another year.

OL and play calling a bigger problem.

Bottom line is that Cousins is not worth anything close to what he is being paid. He is also not close to one of the ten worst QB in football.

Name 10 starting quarterbacks that are worse.

Mullens
Lock
Goff
Jones


It's actually closer than I thought:

Better than:
Cam Newton
Darnold
Carr
Smith
Trubisky

Debatable:

Bridgewater
Garoppolo
Wentz
Ryan
Tua
Burrow

I think Darnold is debatable. Give him a year with a good team and lets see how that plays out.

I'd take Smith over Cousins. He's way tougher, mentally, and his teammates love him. I'm not sure the team respects Cousins. He seems like a loner on the sidelines.

Burrow is not a debate. He's already better with garbage around him. Tua, the jury is still out but he takes way better care of the ball so far.

Carr is the opposite of Cousins. He takes too many chances. At least he looks like he's trying.

At the end of the day, the QB needs to take care of the ball and Cousins is horrid at it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:05:24 PM   
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Lions fired their special teams coach. He called a fake punt without telling the head coach.


I hope that's what the Giants did last night. That had to be the worst fake I've seen since the Colts tried that one vs the Pats.

The design was genius, split out everyone, snap to your punter and give him 3 options to throw to: the center, another olineman and the kicker. The Giants play hard for Joe Judge and he seems to be an up and comer, but how did he sign off on that one?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:07:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Lions fired their special teams coach. He called a fake punt without telling the head coach.


I hope that's what the Giants did last night. That had to be the worst fake I've seen since the Colts tried that one vs the Pats.

The design was genius, split out everyone, snap to your punter and give him 3 options to throw to: the center, another olineman and the kicker. The Giants play hard for Joe Judge and he seems to be an up and comer, but how did he sign off on that one?


All that appears genius, is only genius if it works.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2020 2:08:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

Brad, Have you seen the improvement in cousins in the last 5 or 6 games?

moving in pocket better, not great, but better.

Running at times. mostly for his life.

is overpaid, but have little choice for another year.

OL and play calling a bigger problem.

Bottom line is that Cousins is not worth anything close to what he is being paid. He is also not close to one of the ten worst QB in football.

Name 10 starting quarterbacks that are worse.

Mullens
Lock
Goff
Jones


It's actually closer than I thought:

Better than:
Cam Newton
Darnold
Carr
Smith
Trubisky

Debatable:

Bridgewater
Garoppolo
Wentz
Ryan
Tua
Burrow

I think Darnold is debatable. Give him a year with a good team and lets see how that plays out.

I'd take Smith over Cousins. He's way tougher, mentally, and his teammates love him.


I'm a fan of Darnold, he's had some horrible luck. Between the Jets being a terrible organization from him contracting mono, losing the entire oline last season, losing all of his receivers to start the year.

Maybe he winds up with the 49ers.

Smith has actually pushed the ball downfield a little more than in the past, I guess he's banked enough dough to start taking chances. Kirk stands in there more than check down Smith does.
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