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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:31:46 AM

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I think LA picked up Graterol with the idea of being a closer down the road. I think the Twins insistence that he could move back to the rotation was a lot of smoke in order to maximize his trade value.

I think Falvine is becoming a bit like Friedman with the Dodgers. If they are willing to trade an intrriguing prospect, it's because they know something that others don't and have several other ones they like better.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:51:35 AM

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I think LA picked up Graterol with the idea of being a closer down the road. I think the Twins insistence that he could move back to the rotation was a lot of smoke in order to maximize his trade value.

I think Falvine is becoming a bit like Friedman with the Dodgers. If they are willing to trade an intrriguing prospect, it's because they know something that others don't and have several other ones they like better.

Jansen is just about done. It makes sense.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:56:50 AM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:59:19 AM

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Another reason Alcala is probably sliding down the prospect list

Like Rooker

Both are now 25. Getting older for top prospects. Rooker has dropped to #12

Oldest guys in the top 30 prospects.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 12:07:38 PM

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Another reason Alcala is probably sliding down the prospect list

Like Rooker

Both are now 25. Getting older for top prospects. Rooker has dropped to #12

Oldest guys in the top 30 prospects.

Is this the list of top prospects Twins only?
Whenever I have checked Rooker has been a hitting machine. Has he faded? If we're not going to give him a shot let's trade him to somebody who will.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 12:09:28 PM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

To me it was always a no brainer to trade Graterol for Maeda. Did we end up having to throw in something/someone else? A glove, ball and bag of chips?

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 12:13:39 PM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

To me it was always a no brainer to trade Graterol for Maeda. Did we end up having to throw in something/someone else? A glove, ball and bag of chips?

You were clear from the start that you liked the trade. It wasn't a popular move in here.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 12:17:22 PM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

To me it was always a no brainer to trade Graterol for Maeda. Did we end up having to throw in something/someone else? A glove, ball and bag of chips?

You were clear from the start that you liked the trade. It wasn't a popular move in here.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 1:22:14 PM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

I agree. While it's true you should always think twice, three times about trading a guy like Graterol, the timing was right on this one. The Twins needed starting pitching help right now to get this Bomba Squad to the next level, meaning playoff success. Maeda was very close to a sure thing to provide that.

Graterol may prove to be a once in a generation prospect, or he could be burned out in 5 years. You just don't know. I wish him well. But just because he goes on to success doesn't make it a bad trade. That's what trades like this are all about. Trading a little bit of your future for right now.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 2:23:37 PM

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

I agree. While it's true you should always think twice, three times about trading a guy like Graterol, the timing was right on this one. The Twins needed starting pitching help right now to get this Bomba Squad to the next level, meaning playoff success. Maeda was very close to a sure thing to provide that.

Graterol may prove to be a once in a generation prospect, or he could be burned out in 5 years. You just don't know. I wish him well. But just because he goes on to success doesn't make it a bad trade. That's what trades like this are all about. Trading a little bit of your future for right now.

The Dodgers were loaded with starting pitching. They needed to make room for May and Stripling. It was a good match.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 5:26:44 PM

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Twins pitching staff dropping like flies. Hill scratched for tomorrow. Fortunately Berrios can move up for that one and we can stay on rotation with the rest. Hopefully Hill will only miss the one start.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 5:56:09 PM

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Twins pitching staff dropping like flies. Hill scratched for tomorrow. Fortunately Berrios can move up for that one and we can stay on rotation with the rest. Hopefully Hill will only miss the one start.

We are good

and frrraaagiiiillleee

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 9:02:35 PM

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Odor is expected to pitch this weekend in KC

Thielbar was added.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 9:08:20 PM

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Odor is expected to pitch this weekend in KC

Thielbar was added.

We need Odor Eater. Thielbar not so much.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:31:54 PM

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Hill going to miss two starts or more ten Day disabled.. Maybe he's playing a General Soreness AKA Jimmy Butler game on us feeling he's underpaid.

RICH HILL
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Twins placed LHP Rich Hill on the 10-day injured list with left shoulder soreness.
Twins manager Rocco Baldelli announced on Monday that Hill would not make his scheduled start Tuesday afternoon against the Pirates due to "mild fatigue and back soreness," but the veteran southpaw is clearly dealing with something a little more serious than that. Shoulder issues are scary, especially for a guy who has logged just 63 2/3 regular-season innings since September 2018 due to a variety of physical ailments.

Aug 3, 2020, 11:52 PM ET

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/3/2020 11:33:50 PM

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wrong thread

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 12:25:21 AM

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Coming back from up North it took me 4 radio stations to listen to the whole game.

Nice finish!

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 7:32:00 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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Graterol is to me an above average injury risk. Falvine made the right move IMO.

To me it was always a no brainer to trade Graterol for Maeda. Did we end up having to throw in something/someone else? A glove, ball and bag of chips?

You were clear from the start that you liked the trade. It wasn't a popular move in here.

I liked the trade as well.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 8:08:34 AM

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RHP Juan Minaya has been added to the player pool in St. Paul.

Pitched in the White Sox Bullpen parts of 4 seasons

https://www.mlb.com/player/juan-minaya-573668

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 8:09:26 AM

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And Hill already going to the injured list, not just skipping the start.

Manager Rocco Baldelli said Rich Hill is going to go on the injured list with shoulder fatigue.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 8:13:55 AM

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The 4 through 9 spots in Cleveland's lineup went 7-for-78 (.090) in their 4-game series against the Twins. That includes 2-for-57 (.035) after the first game.

Last night

2-18 (both singles) 2BB/11k's vs 4 Cincinnati pitchers.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 10:09:55 AM

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The 4 through 9 spots in Cleveland's lineup went 7-for-78 (.090) in their 4-game series against the Twins. That includes 2-for-57 (.035) after the first game.

Last night

2-18 (both singles) 2BB/11k's vs 4 Cincinnati pitchers.

Depth

We kill them in depth

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 10:15:37 AM

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The 4 through 9 spots in Cleveland's lineup went 7-for-78 (.090) in their 4-game series against the Twins. That includes 2-for-57 (.035) after the first game.

Last night

2-18 (both singles) 2BB/11k's vs 4 Cincinnati pitchers.

Depth

We kill them in depth

Not liking not much news on the Donaldson front.

Don't really want Ah-dree in the lineup a lot.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 10:53:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The 4 through 9 spots in Cleveland's lineup went 7-for-78 (.090) in their 4-game series against the Twins. That includes 2-for-57 (.035) after the first game.

Last night

2-18 (both singles) 2BB/11k's vs 4 Cincinnati pitchers.

Depth

We kill them in depth

Not liking not much news on the Donaldson front.

Don't really want Ah-dree in the lineup a lot.

I thought Dan G said on the radio last night he hit but did not take grounders yesterday.

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RE: Twins 2020 Regular Season - 8/4/2020 11:32:46 AM

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And Hill already going to the injured list, not just skipping the start.

Manager Rocco Baldelli said Rich Hill is going to go on the injured list with shoulder fatigue.

I think I covered that a few posts above

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It's cool.