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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 7:12:41 AM   
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Twins are interested in trading for Chad Kuhl.

Despite being a power pitch, Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Chad Kuhl had a lot of problems with his fastball during the 2020 season.
For a lot of reasons, the 2020 MLB season was an unforgettable one. Msot of these reasons, however, were negative ones. For one member of the Pittsburgh Pirates pitching staff the 2020 season was an unforgettable one for a memorable reason. This pitcher is righty Chad Kuhl.

When Kuhl made his first appearance of the season on July 27th, it was the first time he had toed the rubber in a MLB game in over two calendar years. After missing most of the 2018 season and all of the 2019 season due to Tommy John Surgery, the Pittsburgh Pirates and Kuhl were both thrilled he was back on the mound.

Kuhl went on to pitch in 11 games for the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2020, with nine of them being starts. Kuhl logged 46.1 innings and posted a 4.27 ERA, 5.48 FIP and a 5.10 DRA. While his 22.3% strikout rate was a new career high, his 14.2% walk rate and 1.55 HR/9 were both career highs and both were numbers, especially the walk rate, that need to come down substantially in 2021.

Even though Kuhl issued too many walks and his FIP and DRA were not pretty, he did a good job of run prevention in 2020 as evident by his 4.27 ERA. Most importantly, he got on a MLB mound and stayed healthy.

As was the case for Kuhl pre-injury in 2017 and 2018, he possessed a power fastball in 2020. His fastball velocity sat in the 63rd percentile of baseball, checking in at an average of 93.9 MPH. On the surface this sounds like a great pitch for Kuhl. However, that was not the case in 2020. In fact, Kuhl had a major fastball problem this past season.

Opposing batters slugged .667 off of Kuhl’s fastball in 2020. Overall, opposing batters were 18-for-63 with four doubles off of his fastball. Six of the eight home runs he allowed came off the fastball. The pitch also generated a whiff rate of just 8.3%.

Struggling with his power fastball is not anything new ofr Kuhl, either. In 2018 opposing batters slugged .600 off the pitch, and they slugged .531 off the pitch in 2017. So, clearly, despite the high velocity of the pitch it is a pitch that has long given Kuhl problems.

While Kuhl’s fastball caused problems in 2020, this was not the case for his slider or change up. Opposing batters hit just .194 with a .254 slugging percentage off of his slider. It limited opposing batters to an average exit velocity of just 86.8 MPH, which is 3 MPH below the league average exit velocity, and it generated a 39.7% whiff rate.

This came on the heels of the pitch having a .295 slugging percentage against it, 85.1 MPH exit velocity and a 41.1% whiff rate in 2018. In 2017, his slider saw opposing batters slug .265 off the pitch, to go with a 86.6 MPH exit velocity and a 42.5% whiff rate.

As for Kuhl’s curveball, the pitch ranked in the 80th percentile in baseball in spin rate in 2020. Throwing the pitch 4% more than he did in 2018 and 11% more than he did in 2017, opposing batters were just 2-for-28 off the pitch this past season to go with a 38.5% whiff rate.


https://rumbunter.com/2020/10/04/pittsburgh-pirates-chad-kuhl-fastball-problem/

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 8:16:35 AM   
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Twins are interested in trading for Chad Kuhl.

Another Dustin special?

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 8:32:18 AM  1 votes
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Twins are interested in trading for Chad Kuhl.

Another Dustin special?

Yeah.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 8:41:56 AM   
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While Kuhl’s fastball caused problems in 2020, this was not the case for his slider or change up. Opposing batters hit just .194 with a .254 slugging percentage off of his slider. It limited opposing batters to an average exit velocity of just 86.8 MPH, which is 3 MPH below the league average exit velocity, and it generated a 39.7% whiff rate.


These numbers would have you think it's a possibility.

Fix his heater and that wonderful spin rate will just eat batters alive.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 8:43:37 AM   
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Plus 2 years removed from TJ surgery some velocity should come back

Add that to wonderful Wes Johnson and you have a hidden gem unearthed by the Twins Way.

Can't get any guys that actually have a track record so they'll get the sleepers and turn them around like Wisler

I guess.



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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:37:34 AM   
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Plus 2 years removed from TJ surgery some velocity should come back

Add that to wonderful Wes Johnson and you have a hidden gem unearthed by the Twins Way.

Can't get any guys that actually have a track record so they'll get the sleepers and turn them around like Wisler

I guess.



And he is under cheap team control for a couple more seasons.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:39:23 AM   
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Plus 2 years removed from TJ surgery some velocity should come back

Add that to wonderful Wes Johnson and you have a hidden gem unearthed by the Twins Way.

Can't get any guys that actually have a track record so they'll get the sleepers and turn them around like Wisler

I guess.



And he is under cheap team control for a couple more seasons.



Good point.

Would also be ideal for the Twins or any other ML team. Love that control.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:40:11 AM   
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Keep forgetting that awesome 2 times through the order Odorizzi is still available.

There's a reason for that.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:40:39 AM   
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TwinsDaily has picked up on Dustin's rumors on Chad Kuhl too.

http://twinsdaily.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/notebook-starting-pitching-market-continues-to-move-r10256

While Joe Musgrove is on his way to San Diego, the Twins might find value in Pirates’ RHP Chad Kuhl. According to sources, the Pirates are fielding offers on the 28-year-old pitcher who has spent the last eight years in the Pittsburgh organization.

Kuhl isn’t an ace by any means, but the guy has a nasty arsenal that could benefit the Twins rotation. While his fastball isn’t anything to write home about, Kuhl relies heavily on his sinker and slider, both of which are effective. MLB hitters batted a meager .194 against Kuhl’s slider in 2020.

And while the slider and sinker are Kuhl’s bread and butter, the curveball may be his most effective pitch. The Bear, Delaware native only threw the pitch roughly 17% of the time in 2020, yet when he did, hitters posted a .074 average against it.

Pretty damn good.

The method to the madness? Kuhl’s fastball and sinker flirt around 93 MPH on average. His sliders hums in around 87 MPH. The curveball? 81 miles per hour; a stark contrast from his other pitches.

In addition to his diverse arsenal, Kuhl could be a cheap add for the Twins rotation. While the Pirates agreed to a $2.13 million 2021 contract with Kuhl, it’s likely that the Twins could trade for the pitcher without giving up top prospects given the Pirates’ lackluster farm system.

Kenta Maeda and Chad Kuhl are far from the same pitcher, yet there are similarities. Both men rely heavily upon offspeed pitches and Kuhl is viewed as untapped talent similarly to how Maeda was viewed prior to this year. It may seem like a reach, but Kuhl could fill a crucial puzzle piece in the Twins’ quest to boast one of the strongest rotations in the league.


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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:47:56 AM   
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Kuhl isn’t an ace by any means, but the guy has a nasty arsenal that could benefit the Twins rotation. While his fastball isn’t anything to write home about, Kuhl relies heavily on his sinker and slider, both of which are effective. MLB hitters batted a meager .194 against Kuhl’s slider in 2020.

And while the slider and sinker are Kuhl’s bread and butter, the curveball may be his most effective pitch. The Bear, Delaware native only threw the pitch roughly 17% of the time in 2020, yet when he did, hitters posted a .074 average against it.

Pretty damn good.

The method to the madness? Kuhl’s fastball and sinker flirt around 93 MPH on average. His sliders hums in around 87 MPH. The curveball? 81 miles per hour; a stark contrast from his other pitches.

In addition to his diverse arsenal, Kuhl could be a cheap add for the Twins rotation. While the Pirates agreed to a $2.13 million 2021 contract with Kuhl, it’s likely that the Twins could trade for the pitcher without giving up top prospects given the Pirates’ lackluster farm system.


Those are the keys

Slider
Curveball
Pirates lackluster system
Not giving up top prospects (if they ever play in the bigs)
CHEAP ADD

no way are they getting an ace. We're way past that scenario. It's Maeda and Berrios at the top and the rest.

Saw a "floor" on the 4 top pitching guys yesterday. Canterino, Balazovic, Duran, Enlow

NONE likely to be an ace but a SOLID #3 is a reasonable floor

Wow

Talk about an org that zero clue on recognizing or developing pitching.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:50:37 AM   
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Jays are still pursuing Brantley after signing Springer

And the Twins can't even get it figured out/sign the DH they've relied on for 2 years.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 9:51:46 AM   
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I think Falvey and Levine are having the clamps put on them by the owners.

They've done far more by this time in recent offseasons.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 10:03:22 AM   
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Levine is probably regretting not taking that Phillies job.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 10:11:52 AM   
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Levine is probably regretting not taking that Phillies job.


They allegedly cut back on payroll, yet have added parts to their bullpen.

Letting Realmuto go was a big hit. He still has no team either. Just very strange.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 11:21:54 AM   
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This is how you do it!

Blue Jays are loaded. Wonder if the Rays and Yankees are staining themselves?

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Now that Michael Brantley is headed to Toronto on a three-year deal, as @thehazelmae
said, look at this lineup:

Springer 8
Biggio 4
Bichette 6
Brantley DH
Hernandez 9
Guerrero 5
Gurriel 7
Tellez 3
Jansen/Kirk 2

That is a run-scoring machine.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 11:22:44 AM   
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If it was me I would sign Gregorius, Rosenthal, and Paxton. (In addition to Cruz or Ozuna of course)

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/20/2021 11:24:05 AM >


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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 11:49:21 AM   
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This is how you do it!

Blue Jays are loaded. Wonder if the Rays and Yankees are staining themselves?

Jeff Passan
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Now that Michael Brantley is headed to Toronto on a three-year deal, as @thehazelmae
said, look at this lineup:

Springer 8
Biggio 4
Bichette 6
Brantley DH
Hernandez 9
Guerrero 5
Gurriel 7
Tellez 3
Jansen/Kirk 2

That is a run-scoring machine.



Nah

Spending money is overrated when you can't win a playoff game
Fans will still come when able to again and fill the coffers for another participation trophy

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 11:50:11 AM   
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If it was me I would sign Gregorius, Rosenthal, and Paxton. (In addition to Cruz or Ozuna of course)



Sign Didi just so he can't blister Twins pitching

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 12:50:24 PM   
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12:20pm: Though Mae, The Athletic, MLB Network and several other national outlets have all reported a deal is in place, a Blue Jays official now refutes that notion to Mae (Twitter link). That official’s statement, per Mae: “The team remains interested in Michael Brantley but there is no deal currently in place.”

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 3:47:58 PM   
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Doogie on Twitter.

They seem to be up to something. We’ll see if it’s today or soon thereafter. Keep an eye on arms. #MNTwins

Ha! They've made offers in the last few days and those players chose other ones. So takes two to tango!

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 3:59:59 PM   
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Left-hander J.A. Happ and the Minnesota Twins are in agreement on a one-year deal, pending physical, sources tell ESPN.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 4:04:02 PM   
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Left-hander J.A. Happ and the Minnesota Twins are in agreement on a one-year deal, pending physical, sources tell ESPN.

And tomorrow we trade for Chad Kuhl. You heard it here first.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 4:05:50 PM   
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Happ had a 1.05 WHIP. I like this a lot.

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 4:07:43 PM   
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Left-hander J.A. Happ and the Minnesota Twins are in agreement on a one-year deal, pending physical, sources tell ESPN.

And tomorrow we trade for Chad Kuhl. You heard it here first.



Print those WS tickets NOW!!!

Happ averaged a little over 5 innings/start in 9 NYY starts

So there you go. Bridging the rotation from Odor to the next group with Happ for a year, without killing the budget and extra years on an Odorizzi contract


WWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEf'nWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEE

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RE: Twins 2020 Season Post Mortem and Offseason - 1/20/2021 4:08:16 PM   
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Happ:

Apparently he still throws 92 and figured out a Split Finger last year. 38 years old....experienced Yankee. (Hill Replacement)

Kuhl:
Has hit 96 in recent years on FB...Walks a few too many.....

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