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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It feels like to me the edge rushers are more hit or miss, but the offensive linemen rated high in the draft are can't miss. It feels like to me the guards are more hit or miss, but Paye is can't miss.

Do NOT draft a tackle and try to make him a guard. OT Slater is saying he wants to play tackle. Good for him for speaking up. And scratch him off the IOL list unless you want him disgruntled from the get go. Leatherwood played LT for Alabama this past year, but he also played RG another year. And in the initial 4th and goal in the championship game, there he was at RG. They ran behind him. TD. So he is someone to consider later but not too late.

- Vera-Tucker is maybe the best pure guard, but is a player to draft in the 20s so they better not panic and reach.

- Then there is maybe the second ranked guard Wyatt Davis who got destroyed in the Alabama massacre of Ohio State.

- One of the Oklahoma guards is ranked up there. Maybe we can draft he and Davis and have an Elflein-Samia redux!

When you step out of the fantasy world, the guards in the draft are crap. Some will pan out but it's a crap shoot.

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

With most of the FA capital going to the D, maybe Zimmer and company think that if the O can score 10 points per game the new and improved D can hold the lead? Just trying to figure out why no O-line so far in FA?

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

With most of the FA capital going to the D, maybe Zimmer and company think that if the O can score 10 points per game the new and improved D can hold the lead? Just trying to figure out why no O-line so far in FA?

Probably because it's a strong o-line draft.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

No thanks to this dude.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dolphins-reportedly-cut-former-first-round-pick-isaiah-wilson-three-days-after-trading-for-him-151550394.html?ncid=facebook_yahoosport_l0w2dc1068w

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It feels like to me the edge rushers are more hit or miss, but the offensive linemen rated high in the draft are can't miss. It feels like to me the guards are more hit or miss, but Paye is can't miss.

Do NOT draft a tackle and try to make him a guard. OT Slater is saying he wants to play tackle. Good for him for speaking up. And scratch him off the IOL list unless you want him disgruntled from the get go. Leatherwood played LT for Alabama this past year, but he also played RG another year. And in the initial 4th and goal in the championship game, there he was at RG. They ran behind him. TD. So he is someone to consider later but not too late.

- Vera-Tucker is maybe the best pure guard, but is a player to draft in the 20s so they better not panic and reach.

- Then there is maybe the second ranked guard Wyatt Davis who got destroyed in the Alabama massacre of Ohio State.

- One of the Oklahoma guards is ranked up there. Maybe we can draft he and Davis and have an Elflein-Samia redux!

When you step out of the fantasy world, the guards in the draft are crap. Some will pan out but it's a crap shoot.

If he is going to be solid to above average Guard for the next 5 years, take him at #14. Try to get cute and get more picks and you get burned.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It feels like to me the edge rushers are more hit or miss, but the offensive linemen rated high in the draft are can't miss. It feels like to me the guards are more hit or miss, but Paye is can't miss.

Do NOT draft a tackle and try to make him a guard. OT Slater is saying he wants to play tackle. Good for him for speaking up. And scratch him off the IOL list unless you want him disgruntled from the get go. Leatherwood played LT for Alabama this past year, but he also played RG another year. And in the initial 4th and goal in the championship game, there he was at RG. They ran behind him. TD. So he is someone to consider later but not too late.

- Vera-Tucker is maybe the best pure guard, but is a player to draft in the 20s so they better not panic and reach.

- Then there is maybe the second ranked guard Wyatt Davis who got destroyed in the Alabama massacre of Ohio State.

- One of the Oklahoma guards is ranked up there. Maybe we can draft he and Davis and have an Elflein-Samia redux!

When you step out of the fantasy world, the guards in the draft are crap. Some will pan out but it's a crap shoot.

If he is going to be solid to above average Guard for the next 5 years, take him at #14. Try to get cute and get more picks and you get burned.

I couldn't agree more. Pass on the best available at your biggest need bc of 7-10 arbitrary draft slots?

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Assuming we pick up a guard, safety, edge rusher or wide receiver from this list which one do you like. (or two if they are more affordable together)

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-100-best-available-nfl-free-agents-remaining-2021-nfl-free-agency

Edit: By the way, I was looking for Lamp and didn't even see him in their top 100. I don't know if he is a guy that we could count on to be a starter. Just saying I don't know.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

With most of the FA capital going to the D, maybe Zimmer and company think that if the O can score 10 points per game the new and improved D can hold the lead? Just trying to figure out why no O-line so far in FA?

Probably because it's a strong o-line draft.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

It feels like to me the edge rushers are more hit or miss, but the offensive linemen rated high in the draft are can't miss. It feels like to me the guards are more hit or miss, but Paye is can't miss.

Do NOT draft a tackle and try to make him a guard. OT Slater is saying he wants to play tackle. Good for him for speaking up. And scratch him off the IOL list unless you want him disgruntled from the get go. Leatherwood played LT for Alabama this past year, but he also played RG another year. And in the initial 4th and goal in the championship game, there he was at RG. They ran behind him. TD. So he is someone to consider later but not too late.

- Vera-Tucker is maybe the best pure guard, but is a player to draft in the 20s so they better not panic and reach.

- Then there is maybe the second ranked guard Wyatt Davis who got destroyed in the Alabama massacre of Ohio State.

- One of the Oklahoma guards is ranked up there. Maybe we can draft he and Davis and have an Elflein-Samia redux!

When you step out of the fantasy world, the guards in the draft are crap. Some will pan out but it's a crap shoot.

If he is going to be solid to above average Guard for the next 5 years, take him at #14. Try to get cute and get more picks and you get burned.

I couldn't agree more. Pass on the best available at your biggest need bc of 7-10 arbitrary draft slots?

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

If the defense is constantly have to return to the field after an offensive 3 and out....

Oh. Ffs why do I even bother.

I like a good defense as much as anyone, but if this board thinks that drafting middle and lower round guards and tackles is “good enough and quantity of picks is better than quality of picks” as has been done and proven wrong for at least a decade or longer, in regard to offensive linemen, then who cares?

Either draft alternating cornerbacks and quarterbacks, or draft 5-6 under tackles or edge rushers, or this draft is a bust by the end of day 3.

I Cant wait for Manion to get significant playing time after KC gets mauled by all the other teams that draft 5-6 defensive linemen and whose pass rushers now have all day, (literally 2 seconds), to waltz thru the stellar offensive line composed of cast offs, players learning positions they didn’t play in college or positions on the opposite side of the line where their best proficiency was learned, and undersized dancing warthogs, who can chip block a defensive tackle coming thru the middle, while they scamper nimbly to the second or third level to whiff spectacularly, on a linebacker or safety nowhere near the play.

Meanwhile, the living statute to cap management will be beaten into the turf, because the opponent also drafted 3-4 cornerbacks or safeties, and all the better edge rushers and interior pocket collapsing NT’s, so that all of KC’s options, for his lightning fast release, are somehow still covered by the count of “3 Mississippi”...

I never tire of watching that...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

With most of the FA capital going to the D, maybe Zimmer and company think that if the O can score 10 points per game the new and improved D can hold the lead? Just trying to figure out why no O-line so far in FA?

Probably because it's a strong o-line draft.

But not for guards. In your scheme we draft a tackle, play him at G, then determine that since he showed little at G nothing indicates he will be good at tackle.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

If the defense is constantly have to return to the field after an offensive 3 and out....

Oh. Ffs why do I even bother.

I like a good defense as much as anyone, but if this board thinks that drafting middle and lower round guards and tackles is “good enough and quantity of picks is better than quality of picks” as has been done and proven wrong for at least a decade or longer, in regard to offensive linemen, then who cares?

Either draft alternating cornerbacks and quarterbacks, or draft 5-6 under tackles or edge rushers, or this draft is a bust by the end of day 3.

I Cant wait for Manion to get significant playing time after KC gets mauled by all the other teams that draft 5-6 defensive linemen and whose pass rushers now have all day, (literally 2 seconds), to waltz thru the stellar offensive line composed of cast offs, players learning positions they didn’t play in college or positions on the opposite side of the line where their best proficiency was learned, and undersized dancing warthogs, who can chip block a defensive tackle coming thru the middle, while they scamper nimbly to the second or third level to whiff spectacularly, on a linebacker or safety nowhere near the play.

Meanwhile, the living statute to cap management will be beaten into the turf, because the opponent also drafted 3-4 cornerbacks or safeties, and all the better edge rushers and interior pocket collapsing NT’s, so that all of KC’s options, for his lightning fast release, are somehow still covered by the count of “3 Mississippi”...

I never tire of watching that...

Well the saving grace is the regime is so great at evaluating IOL talent. Just look at Bradbury at #17.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

With most of the FA capital going to the D, maybe Zimmer and company think that if the O can score 10 points per game the new and improved D can hold the lead? Just trying to figure out why no O-line so far in FA?

Probably because it's a strong o-line draft.

But not for guards. In your scheme we draft a tackle, play him at G, then determine that since he showed little at G nothing indicates he will be good at tackle.

If aggravating o-line draft history has shown us anything, it is that the Vikings won't hesitate to draft a lineman without having a specific position in mind. They drafted Cleveland, who had exclusively played LT and immediately on draft night talked about how he could play guard or tackle. Once Reiff took a pay cut, he never took another rep at tackle. Bradbury was C or G, but probably C. Elf was C or G, but probably C, no probably LG, no RG is his natural pos... no, turns out he sucks.

My guess, which is a total crap shoot, is that they draft a tackle and keep Cleveland at G. Beyond that, they will sign a scrap heap FA guard and draft an athletic lineman and say he can play G or T because they really have no idea what he is. Rinse and repeat.

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I don't recall best prospect in years, but yes I remember they were hyping him up quite a bit.