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I agree that the defense was done no favors from kicking through the EZ for TB but what you did all year doesn't matter if you fail the final test.

A #1 defense that let a team go 44 yards in 10 seconds. It should never happen. Period.

It's football in 2022. It happens every week. Which is why we need a quarterback that can do the same thing. Football has become a video game, and we have the BETA version playing quarterback.

Get real. What you are saying is we should draft another Brady with our 5th rd. pick this year. Sure ... why not.

That was a game for the ages.

The last two minutes were a perfect storm of scheme, playcall, execution, personnel, and luck.

The Chiefs and Bills are in disbelief this morning.

On the offensive side of the ball.

Both offense and defense.

Not perfect scheme, playcall, etc. ... a perfect storm of scheme, playcall, etc. from both sides.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

If only we had this guy on our defense ...

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1485461640208437248

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

If there is any saving grace for the Vikes, the NFC is FAR behind the AFC in terms of QB talent. And particularly young QB talent. Is there any team with a QB, particularly a young QB where you think - 'wow it's gonna suck having to contend with him for the next 10 years'? There are guys out there who *might* get there (Kyler is probably the closest currently). But compared to the AFC with Herbert, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, it's not even comparable IMO.

Agreed, the AFC is loaded.

I don't think Garapolo or Stafford is that much better than Cousins.

No there not. But SF and LA defenses are both insanely good.

Aaron Donald is simply an animal. He's been in the league 7 seasons and has been a unanimous 1st team all pro selection every year. To think we could have drafted him instead of Barr.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

If only we had this guy on our defense ...

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1485461640208437248

If you manage to run onto the field yet don't streak naked then I have no respect and question what the point is.

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ORIGINAL: Lars

The kickoff by BUF was not the problem. That cuts both ways. The problem was the dogshit defense that gave up like 45 yards in 2 plays - and very easily I might add.

Jimmy G and Stafford are not better than Cousins (especially Jimmy).

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Fraziers prevent defense is worse than Zimmers.

Frazier's defense was great all season. McDermott set him up for failure by kicking the ball into the end zone. Gave KC an extra play.

Kicking into the endzone should have been no problem and it avoided the chance of a long return which in theory should have been the only threat to lose the game. The big problem was that prevent defense that had defenders defending an area of the field SO DEEP from the LOS that a KC receiver would have slid down prior to even getting there. KC DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SECONDS TO REACH THE ENDZONE SO WHY WAS BUFFALO DEFENDING IT?

A simple cover 2 with a dime package was all Buffalo needed to clinch the game but instead they defended the deep ball and let KC succeed with two plays underneath that gained a grotesque amount of yards.

There was 13 seconds left. If a team returns it for a TD you tip your cap and say congratulations. If they have a normal return to the 25-30 yard line, there would have only been 6-7 seconds left on the clock, max.

I agree the coverage and defensive scheme were bad. But KC would have only had time to run one play had the coach not kicked it into the end zone.

I think not kicking it to Hill was a sound choice on paper. But it did backfire big time. Frazier should have dialed up pressure but instead sat back and let them gain 25 yards a play throwing underneath.

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ORIGINAL: Lars

The kickoff by BUF was not the problem. That cuts both ways. The problem was the dogshit defense that gave up like 45 yards in 2 plays - and very easily I might add.

Jimmy G and Stafford are not better than Cousins (especially Jimmy).

There was 13 seconds left. With a proper kickoff, KC gets one play rather than two. Yes, the defense sucked. But KC would have only had one play had the coach made the right decision.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Lars

The kickoff by BUF was not the problem. That cuts both ways. The problem was the dogshit defense that gave up like 45 yards in 2 plays - and very easily I might add.

Jimmy G and Stafford are not better than Cousins (especially Jimmy).

There was 13 seconds left. With a proper kickoff, KC gets one play rather than two. Yes, the defense sucked. But KC would have only had one play had the coach made the right decision.

Until their returner runs it back for great field position or worse, a TD.

What if in your attempt to pooch kick it, it goes OB?

The soft defense is what failed them.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Fraziers prevent defense is worse than Zimmers.

Frazier's defense was great all season. McDermott set him up for failure by kicking the ball into the end zone. Gave KC an extra play.

Kicking into the endzone should have been no problem and it avoided the chance of a long return which in theory should have been the only threat to lose the game. The big problem was that prevent defense that had defenders defending an area of the field SO DEEP from the LOS that a KC receiver would have slid down prior to even getting there. KC DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SECONDS TO REACH THE ENDZONE SO WHY WAS BUFFALO DEFENDING IT?

A simple cover 2 with a dime package was all Buffalo needed to clinch the game but instead they defended the deep ball and let KC succeed with two plays underneath that gained a grotesque amount of yards.

There was 13 seconds left. If a team returns it for a TD you tip your cap and say congratulations. If they have a normal return to the 25-30 yard line, there would have only been 6-7 seconds left on the clock, max.

I agree the coverage and defensive scheme were bad. But KC would have only had time to run one play had the coach not kicked it into the end zone.

I think not kicking it to Hill was a sound choice on paper. But it did backfire big time. Frazier should have dialed up pressure but instead sat back and let them gain 25 yards a play throwing underneath.

On what paper? There's been a total of eight kickoff returns for TD all year.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

i think the squib would have been the right call, but the defense was the real problem.

the bills played it like the chiefs had no timeouts, they had 3

they rushed 4, played 3 deep, gave up the middle which was wide open for Kelce and Hill to catch and run and call a TO

Frazier called the absolute worst defense in that situation

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Fraziers prevent defense is worse than Zimmers.

Frazier's defense was great all season. McDermott set him up for failure by kicking the ball into the end zone. Gave KC an extra play.

Kicking into the endzone should have been no problem and it avoided the chance of a long return which in theory should have been the only threat to lose the game. The big problem was that prevent defense that had defenders defending an area of the field SO DEEP from the LOS that a KC receiver would have slid down prior to even getting there. KC DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SECONDS TO REACH THE ENDZONE SO WHY WAS BUFFALO DEFENDING IT?

A simple cover 2 with a dime package was all Buffalo needed to clinch the game but instead they defended the deep ball and let KC succeed with two plays underneath that gained a grotesque amount of yards.

There was 13 seconds left. If a team returns it for a TD you tip your cap and say congratulations. If they have a normal return to the 25-30 yard line, there would have only been 6-7 seconds left on the clock, max.

I agree the coverage and defensive scheme were bad. But KC would have only had time to run one play had the coach not kicked it into the end zone.

I think not kicking it to Hill was a sound choice on paper. But it did backfire big time. Frazier should have dialed up pressure but instead sat back and let them gain 25 yards a play throwing underneath.

On what paper? There's been a total of eight kickoff returns for TD all year.

I'm pretty sure the concensus across the league is to not let Tyreek Hill field a kick if avoidable.

In this situation a high kick around the ten would have been the smart play. Unless Hill returns it for a TD ofcoarse. The guy is a threat to go yard everytime he touches the ball.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Fraziers prevent defense is worse than Zimmers.

Frazier's defense was great all season. McDermott set him up for failure by kicking the ball into the end zone. Gave KC an extra play.

Kicking into the endzone should have been no problem and it avoided the chance of a long return which in theory should have been the only threat to lose the game. The big problem was that prevent defense that had defenders defending an area of the field SO DEEP from the LOS that a KC receiver would have slid down prior to even getting there. KC DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SECONDS TO REACH THE ENDZONE SO WHY WAS BUFFALO DEFENDING IT?

A simple cover 2 with a dime package was all Buffalo needed to clinch the game but instead they defended the deep ball and let KC succeed with two plays underneath that gained a grotesque amount of yards.

There was 13 seconds left. If a team returns it for a TD you tip your cap and say congratulations. If they have a normal return to the 25-30 yard line, there would have only been 6-7 seconds left on the clock, max.

I agree the coverage and defensive scheme were bad. But KC would have only had time to run one play had the coach not kicked it into the end zone.

I think not kicking it to Hill was a sound choice on paper. But it did backfire big time. Frazier should have dialed up pressure but instead sat back and let them gain 25 yards a play throwing underneath.

On what paper? There's been a total of eight kickoff returns for TD all year.

I'm pretty sure the concensus across the league is to not let Tyreek Hill field a kick if avoidable.

In this situation a high kick around the ten would have been the smart play. Unless Hill returns it for a TD ofcoarse. The guy is a threat to go yard everytime he touches the ball.

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

If there is any saving grace for the Vikes, the NFC is FAR behind the AFC in terms of QB talent. And particularly young QB talent. Is there any team with a QB, particularly a young QB where you think - 'wow it's gonna suck having to contend with him for the next 10 years'? There are guys out there who *might* get there (Kyler is probably the closest currently). But compared to the AFC with Herbert, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, it's not even comparable IMO.

Agreed, the AFC is loaded.

I don't think Garapolo or Stafford is that much better than Cousins.

No there not. But SF and LA defenses are both insanely good.

Aaron Donald is simply an animal. He's been in the league 7 seasons and has been a unanimous 1st team all pro selection every year. To think we could have drafted him instead of Barr.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

If there is any saving grace for the Vikes, the NFC is FAR behind the AFC in terms of QB talent. And particularly young QB talent. Is there any team with a QB, particularly a young QB where you think - 'wow it's gonna suck having to contend with him for the next 10 years'? There are guys out there who *might* get there (Kyler is probably the closest currently). But compared to the AFC with Herbert, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, it's not even comparable IMO.

Agreed, the AFC is loaded.

I don't think Garapolo or Stafford is that much better than Cousins.

No there not. But SF and LA defenses are both insanely good.

Aaron Donald is simply an animal. He's been in the league 7 seasons and has been a unanimous 1st team all pro selection every year. To think we could have drafted him instead of Barr.

Donald was 286 lbs so there was a wide range of opinions about him.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

If there is any saving grace for the Vikes, the NFC is FAR behind the AFC in terms of QB talent. And particularly young QB talent. Is there any team with a QB, particularly a young QB where you think - 'wow it's gonna suck having to contend with him for the next 10 years'? There are guys out there who *might* get there (Kyler is probably the closest currently). But compared to the AFC with Herbert, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, it's not even comparable IMO.

Agreed, the AFC is loaded.

I don't think Garapolo or Stafford is that much better than Cousins.

No there not. But SF and LA defenses are both insanely good.

Aaron Donald is simply an animal. He's been in the league 7 seasons and has been a unanimous 1st team all pro selection every year. To think we could have drafted him instead of Barr.

Donald was 286 lbs so there was a wide range of opinions about him.

true.... however, there was a lot of buzz surrounding him in the week or 2 leading up to the draft.... about how amazing he looked in private workouts, etc......

Rick, of course, outsmarted the whole NFL and picked a college DE to play LB for us 9th overall.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

If there is any saving grace for the Vikes, the NFC is FAR behind the AFC in terms of QB talent. And particularly young QB talent. Is there any team with a QB, particularly a young QB where you think - 'wow it's gonna suck having to contend with him for the next 10 years'? There are guys out there who *might* get there (Kyler is probably the closest currently). But compared to the AFC with Herbert, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, it's not even comparable IMO.

Agreed, the AFC is loaded.

I don't think Garapolo or Stafford is that much better than Cousins.

No there not. But SF and LA defenses are both insanely good.

Aaron Donald is simply an animal. He's been in the league 7 seasons and has been a unanimous 1st team all pro selection every year. To think we could have drafted him instead of Barr.

Donald was 286 lbs so there was a wide range of opinions about him.

true.... however, there was a lot of buzz surrounding him in the week or 2 leading up to the draft.... about how amazing he looked in private workouts, etc......

Rick, of course, outsmarted the whole NFL and picked a college DE to play LB for us 9th overall.

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ORIGINAL: Lars

The kickoff by BUF was not the problem. That cuts both ways. The problem was the dogshit defense that gave up like 45 yards in 2 plays - and very easily I might add.

Jimmy G and Stafford are not better than Cousins (especially Jimmy).

There was 13 seconds left. With a proper kickoff, KC gets one play rather than two. Yes, the defense sucked. But KC would have only had one play had the coach made the right decision.

Until their returner runs it back for great field position or worse, a TD.

What if in your attempt to pooch kick it, it goes OB?

The soft defense is what failed them.

Lets say he runs it back to the 40. That's a very good return and leaves them with about 4-5 seconds on the clock. At that point they have two options.....a hail Mary or a 77-yard field goal. I'll take my chances on that.

Yes, the soft defense sucked. But it shouldn't have even come to that.

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We got a GM yet?

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I saw another article suggesting tackling the receivers, and one of the responses was that the rule was changed in 2017. Specifically, an unsportsmanlike conduct for intentional fouls and the clock is restored. Since that is a judgement call, seems like it might be worth the risk