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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 11:23:24 AM

thebigo

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....

JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook

The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora

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I don't want to be on the other side of this losing the best 3 of those 4 with Cousins staying as an it is what it is thing. It can't be them and Cousins or they lied about being competitive next year.

People might question what getting rid of your starting qb means but most fans won't. The big 3 would feel like gutting the team where as getting rid of Cousins and that contract makes sense.

Rich business owners lying to their customer base about the quality of their product before they purchase? I know there is rampant hijinks going on at all times in Canada so the rich can pile their money as high as the CN Tower, but here in the U.S. we only reward hard work and virtue.

Virtue signalling, at any rate.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 11:24:24 AM

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365

i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....

Why? We weren’t forced to cut him.

i understand that, but it seems that the commissioner's exempt list is somewhat arbitrary and i wonder if the league had recommended that we cut gladney....

it seems that the vikings did what was better for the NFL, the league as a whole, and i don't think they shouldn't be punished for that....

Are you overthinking this because you want him back?

Yes, I’d take him back

Yes I definitely would also. Not sure how he or his agent will feel about it now though. I would think not favorably, even though the Vikings actions were the right thing at the time IMO

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 1:25:25 PM

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What does Rick Sosa have to say?

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Expecting news from Eagan this afternoon.. finally.. hopefully #Vikings

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 1:35:10 PM

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this is what's hanging things up....

Pro Football Radio@PfrPodcast
Big day for Deshaun Watson. If a Grand Jury deems there isn’t enough evidence to pursue criminal charges then most league circles believe he will resolve his civil lawsuits with cash settlements, thus clearing his way for a trade out of Houston. #Texans #Steelers #Touchdown #NFL

Corbin K. Smith@CorbinSmithNFL
The #Seahawks have great interest in Deshaun Watson and really like Malik Willis. Both of those statements are true. Two vastly different contingency plans that obviously would be met with far different reactions from fans.

Pro Football Network@PFN365
One source told @AaronWilson_NFL that the #Panthers' level of interest in Deshaun Watson can be described as "all-in."

Tracey 🌻🌻#KeepPounding #GoldStandard@lkntmp
I do not want Deshaun Watson #Panthers

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 1:50:05 PM

ratoppenheimer

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
#49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo’s shoulder surgery was performed Tuesday by Dr. Neal ElAttrache, one of the nation’s leading shoulder specialists. The expectation is Garoppolo is fully cleared right around the start of training camp ... for whatever team he ends up on.

Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
#Chargers WR Mike Williams' new three-year, $60 million contract includes a $21M signing bonus and $40M fully guaranteed over the first two years. A $3M roster bonus on the 3rd day of the 2024 league year triggers the final year. A strong deal.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 1:50:36 PM

David Levine

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Yes I definitely would also. Not sure how he or his agent will feel about it now though. I would think not favorably, even though the Vikings actions were the right thing at the time IMO

Were they?

Was the right thing to immediately cut him?

Was the right thing to let him play while it plays out in the courts and then decide what to do?

Was the right thing to suspend him until he was either convicted or exonerated?

Did we immediately cut Cook when his allegations came up? Is "the right thing to do" based on value to the team?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 2:39:31 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....

JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook

The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora

.

I don't want to be on the other side of this losing the best 3 of those 4 with Cousins staying as an it is what it is thing. It can't be them and Cousins or they lied about being competitive next year.

People might question what getting rid of your starting qb means but most fans won't. The big 3 would feel like gutting the team where as getting rid of Cousins and that contract makes sense.

Rich business owners lying to their customer base about the quality of their product before they purchase? I know there is rampant hijinks going on at all times in Canada so the rich can pile their money as high as the CN Tower, but here in the U.S. we only reward hard work and virtue.

Virtue signalling, at any rate.

Is there a difference?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 3:39:01 PM

thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....

JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook

The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora

.

I don't want to be on the other side of this losing the best 3 of those 4 with Cousins staying as an it is what it is thing. It can't be them and Cousins or they lied about being competitive next year.

People might question what getting rid of your starting qb means but most fans won't. The big 3 would feel like gutting the team where as getting rid of Cousins and that contract makes sense.

Rich business owners lying to their customer base about the quality of their product before they purchase? I know there is rampant hijinks going on at all times in Canada so the rich can pile their money as high as the CN Tower, but here in the U.S. we only reward hard work and virtue.

Virtue signalling, at any rate.

Is there a difference?

Virtue requires no recognition, it just is. If you have to signal it, you ain't got it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 4:06:24 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....

JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook

The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora

.

I don't want to be on the other side of this losing the best 3 of those 4 with Cousins staying as an it is what it is thing. It can't be them and Cousins or they lied about being competitive next year.

People might question what getting rid of your starting qb means but most fans won't. The big 3 would feel like gutting the team where as getting rid of Cousins and that contract makes sense.

Rich business owners lying to their customer base about the quality of their product before they purchase? I know there is rampant hijinks going on at all times in Canada so the rich can pile their money as high as the CN Tower, but here in the U.S. we only reward hard work and virtue.

Virtue signalling, at any rate.

Is there a difference?

Virtue requires no recognition, it just is. If you have to signal it, you ain't got it.

I was being facetious, but now I'm afraid I've sent an unvirtuous signal.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 4:22:32 PM

thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....

JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook

The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora

.

I don't want to be on the other side of this losing the best 3 of those 4 with Cousins staying as an it is what it is thing. It can't be them and Cousins or they lied about being competitive next year.

People might question what getting rid of your starting qb means but most fans won't. The big 3 would feel like gutting the team where as getting rid of Cousins and that contract makes sense.

Rich business owners lying to their customer base about the quality of their product before they purchase? I know there is rampant hijinks going on at all times in Canada so the rich can pile their money as high as the CN Tower, but here in the U.S. we only reward hard work and virtue.

Virtue signalling, at any rate.

Is there a difference?

Virtue requires no recognition, it just is. If you have to signal it, you ain't got it.

I was being facetious, but now I'm afraid I've sent an unvirtuous signal.

I got no problems with unvirtuous signalling!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 5:34:20 PM

ratoppenheimer

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things should start to break very soon now....

ESPN@espn
A grand jury has declined to indict Texans QB Deshaun Watson following a police investigation sparked by lawsuits filed by 22 women who have accused him of harassment and sexual assault.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 7:07:42 PM

Todd M

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No player movement but KOC added another positional coach. Now QB coach is doubled up as well.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/11/2022 7:09:23 PM

Todd M

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Coach to player ratio is high. This team better be sharp.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 12:46:49 AM

Jeff Allen

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The smart move is to trade Cousins and other high priced vets, finish the year 4-13, get a high draft pick and rebuild.

Kwesi is a smart guy.

I think this is the path they take.

The other option is to extend Cousins, but I don't think they have the talent to win.

The worst option is to let Cousins play out his final season. Team finishes 8-9 again. What will that accomplish? They will just get a worse QB in the 2023 draft.

If they are going to extend Cousins you do what you can to bring in as much talent as you can. If you trade Cousins you have to get rid of Smith and Thielen and Kendricks and every other 30-year-old player.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 7:59:04 AM

Murph

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The smart move is to trade Cousins and other high priced vets, finish the year 4-13, get a high draft pick and rebuild.

Kwesi is a smart guy.

I think this is the path they take.

The other option is to extend Cousins, but I don't think they have the talent to win.

The worst option is to let Cousins play out his final season. Team finishes 8-9 again. What will that accomplish? They will just get a worse QB in the 2023 draft.

If they are going to extend Cousins you do what you can to bring in as much talent as you can. If you trade Cousins you have to get rid of Smith and Thielen and Kendricks and every other 30-year-old player.

I disagree with the bolded.

Imo the worst option is the extension or any scenario that keeps Cousins here longer.

We will never win a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 8:03:02 AM

Todd M

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If you've made as much as Cousins has...without ever winning big or a lot and won't even consider in the slightest doing something for your team and it's only you you you.

**** you.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 8:51:26 AM

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/12/barring-a-trade-or-a-new-contract-kirk-cousins-will-enter-2022-with-the-highest-cap-hit/

For his pay Coisins had better win both MVP and Super Bowl MVP or the roi is crap.

His cap hit next year WILL BE BIGGER THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE.

His contract implies he is the most valuable player in the league.

If we extend him, Kwesi and KOC are as good as gone, just a matter of when.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 11:15:54 AM 1 votes

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If you've made as much as Cousins has...without ever winning big or a lot and won't even consider in the slightest doing something for your team and it's only you you you.

**** you.

Absolutely agree Todd trade his ass and try to get the best qb in the draft

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 11:26:27 AM

thebigo

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Did we get him yet?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 11:40:22 AM

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Did we get him yet?

You meant to include” rid of”… in the middle of that, right?

FKFC..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 12:22:47 PM

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I'd like to trade Cousins and a first round pick for Watson. Make it happen!

Let's see Kirk try and excel on THAT team. Maybe then he will understand that it takes a team to win, not just the most expensive QB.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 1:44:46 PM

David F.

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I realize it might be just business as usual and no hurry but I’ll still point out that Rodgers hasn’t signed a damn thing yet and no contract details have been made public

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 2:54:23 PM

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Jason LaCanfora said that we are “very open” to trading Kirk, with Seattle or Indy being possible partners. We’ll see.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 2:57:31 PM

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Jason LaCanfora said that we are “very open” to trading Kirk, with Seattle or Indy being possible partners. We’ll see.

Please make it happen!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/12/2022 2:58:39 PM

lyle chabot

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Jason LaCanfora said that we are “very open” to trading Kirk, with Seattle or Indy being possible partners. We’ll see.

Please make it happen!

To Seattle so I can watch their fans be unhappy

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