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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2022 7:11:10 AM   
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I hope the Vikings give Sloter another chance, and believe with the current Vikings' team, Sloter could play a Nick Fole's role, and lead the team to a Super Bowl victory.

Put the pipe down Marty.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2022 9:07:47 AM   
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No. The whole league is “dumbed down”.

This is a good point. Based on what I've seen not to many will be going NFL.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2022 9:14:51 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2022 9:37:08 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2022 8:17:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 9:02:09 AM   
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Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.


That could be a Spielman home run pick: great player, premium position, and a trade down as well.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 9:18:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.


That could be a Spielman home run pick: great player, premium position, and a trade down as well.

Spielman took a lot of swings and misses on olineman over his tenure.

Pretty sure he owed us a good one.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 9:48:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.


That could be a Spielman home run pick: great player, premium position, and a trade down as well.

Spielman took a lot of swings and misses on olineman over his tenure.

Pretty sure he owed us a good one.

"I think they're about ready to have one of the best OL in the league."

Whoa! Something we're not used to hearing!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 10:07:42 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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Ryan Cook 2
Loadholt 2
Sullivan 6
DeGeare 5
DeMarcus Love 6
Fusco 6
Kalil 1
Baca 6
Bond 7
Yankey 5
Clemmings 4
Thompson 6
Shepherd 7
Beavers 4
Elf 3
Isidora 5
O'Neill 2
Gossett 6
Bradbury 1
Samia 4
Udoh 6
Cleveland 2
Brandel 6
Hinton 7
Darrisaw 1
Davis 3

I think RS got better at it, no more and no less.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 6/8/2022 10:10:11 AM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 1:50:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.



that's a very good video - easy to visually understand what the guy is describing...also, he likes ingram a lot - thinks that he was a steal where we chose him....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 1:59:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

OL Player & Round

Ryan Cook 2
Loadholt 2
Sullivan 6
DeGeare 5
DeMarcus Love 6
Fusco 6
Kalil 1
Baca 6
Bond 7
Yankey 5
Clemmings 4
Thompson 6
Shepherd 7
Beavers 4
Elf 3
Isidora 5
O'Neill 2
Gossett 6
Bradbury 1
Samia 4
Udoh 6
Cleveland 2
Brandel 6
Hinton 7
Darrisaw 1
Davis 3

I think RS got better at it, no more and no less.



nine years of emptiness between loadholt and o'neill...kalil was a flash that became a perennial overpaid bust, that we just wouldn't let go....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 2:10:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

OL Player & Round

Ryan Cook 2
Loadholt 2
Sullivan 6
DeGeare 5
DeMarcus Love 6
Fusco 6
Kalil 1
Baca 6
Bond 7
Yankey 5
Clemmings 4
Thompson 6
Shepherd 7
Beavers 4
Elf 3
Isidora 5
O'Neill 2
Gossett 6
Bradbury 1
Samia 4
Udoh 6
Cleveland 2
Brandel 6
Hinton 7
Darrisaw 1
Davis 3

I think RS got better at it, no more and no less.



nine years of emptiness between loadholt and o'neill...kalil was a flash that became a perennial overpaid bust, that we just wouldn't let go....


And only two picks higher than the 4th round in all those years (and only two in the 4th).
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 4:12:56 PM   
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Status: online 		I think Ingram will also be really good, just a matter of time.

Ingram at RG, then maybe Reed at Center ?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 4:19:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

OL Player & Round

Ryan Cook 2
Loadholt 2
Sullivan 6
DeGeare 5
DeMarcus Love 6
Fusco 6
Kalil 1
Baca 6
Bond 7
Yankey 5
Clemmings 4
Thompson 6
Shepherd 7
Beavers 4
Elf 3
Isidora 5
O'Neill 2
Gossett 6
Bradbury 1
Samia 4
Udoh 6
Cleveland 2
Brandel 6
Hinton 7
Darrisaw 1
Davis 3

I think RS got better at it, no more and no less.



nine years of emptiness between loadholt and o'neill...kalil was a flash that became a perennial overpaid bust, that we just wouldn't let go....


And only two picks higher than the 4th round in all those years (and only two in the 4th).

I wasted so much hope on this list over the years, frequently for picks that yielded absolutely nothing. That reads like a photo gallery entitled, "Turds I've Dropped."
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 4:41:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		It shows just how little Spielman valued the O-Line. From 2010-2017 he spent these picks on O-Line:

1st: 1
3rd: 1
4th: 2
5th: 3
6th: 5
7th: 2
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 6:35:36 PM   
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It shows just how little Spielman valued the O-Line. From 2010-2017 he spent these picks on O-Line:

1st: 1
3rd: 1
4th: 2
5th: 3
6th: 5
7th: 2


I wonder if after getting Sullivan and to a lesser extent Fusco in the 6th early in his reign he thought he could keep going to that 6th round well. Or was it his blueprint from the get-go.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 7:04:17 PM   
bohumm

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

It shows just how little Spielman valued the O-Line. From 2010-2017 he spent these picks on O-Line:

1st: 1
3rd: 1
4th: 2
5th: 3
6th: 5
7th: 2


I wonder if after getting Sullivan and to a lesser extent Fusco in the 6th early in his reign he thought he could keep going to that 6th round well. Or was it his blueprint from the get-go.

I think it was a pet "MoneyBall" move for him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2022 7:53:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

OL Player & Round

Ryan Cook 2
Loadholt 2
Sullivan 6
DeGeare 5
DeMarcus Love 6
Fusco 6
Kalil 1
Baca 6
Bond 7
Yankey 5
Clemmings 4
Thompson 6
Shepherd 7
Beavers 4
Elf 3
Isidora 5
O'Neill 2
Gossett 6
Bradbury 1
Samia 4
Udoh 6
Cleveland 2
Brandel 6
Hinton 7
Darrisaw 1
Davis 3

I think RS got better at it, no more and no less.



nine years of emptiness between loadholt and o'neill...kalil was a flash that became a perennial overpaid bust, that we just wouldn't let go....


And only two picks higher than the 4th round in all those years (and only two in the 4th).

I wasted so much hope on this list over the years, frequently for picks that yielded absolutely nothing. That reads like a photo gallery entitled, "Turds I've Dropped."


That’s an instant classic..
“Turds I’ve dropped…”



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 1:30:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

It shows just how little Spielman valued the O-Line. From 2010-2017 he spent these picks on O-Line:

1st: 1
3rd: 1
4th: 2
5th: 3
6th: 5
7th: 2


I wonder if after getting Sullivan and to a lesser extent Fusco in the 6th early in his reign he thought he could keep going to that 6th round well. Or was it his blueprint from the get-go.



like 4th round de's and 5th round wr's....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 6:43:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Forget what year (probably prior to the 2018 draft) Spielman did a study and told the media that his findings were that you can get better quality olineman in rds 1 & 2. Der...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 10:43:42 AM   
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In a story from Andrew Krammer of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, we learn that Bradbury is “back above 300 pounds” as he prepares for his fourth season as the Vikings’ starting center. Bradbury says that it’s been a full-time job to put the pounds on in the proper manner.

“Adding it the right way,” Bradbury said. “Anyone can eat a bunch of pizza and put on some pounds, but trying to add it the right way, working with the right people. I’m naturally not a 350-pound guy, but that’s part of the job requirement, so that’s something I’ve tried to hone in on this offseason and will reap the benefits from it this season.”

It will be interesting to see if Bradbury’s extra weight will help him out when the (figurative) bullets start to fly in Training Camp and the pre-season. Along with the weight issue, some of Bradbury’s struggles have been attributed to the Vikings’ guard play, but the Vikings appear to be taking that excuse off the table with the drafting of Ed Ingram and the addition of Jessie Davis and Chris Reed in free agency this offseason....dailynorsman

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 11:11:59 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 12:20:15 PM   
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IDK if true but this is from April of this year...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 1:10:35 PM   
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Christian Darrisaw is already an Elite football player

https://youtu.be/xLYdrevLI0s

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Pretty awesome stuff.

Thanks for the video.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/9/2022 1:23:32 PM   
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Yfz84/status/1534722842612355077/photo/1


IDK if true but this is from April of this year...



how could o'connell look at him 3 or 4 months ago and think that we're good at center?....

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