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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 12:01:49 PM   
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I think we're going to come out of the gate sizzling hot.

I want to see our backups in the 4th qtr not our backs up against the wall.

Throttle down until the opposing team knows its over.


Our D Line is going to be elite. There's a whole lot of good that can come from that. Demoralize the other team early with some sacks and forced fumbles.


I'd love to see it. Give our O even more opportunities to put games out of reach.
There's a couple things I'd love to see. Often. 1...taking a deep shot immediately after a turn over and 2...going for it on 4th on the other teams side of the field instead of a pooch punt or long FG...even if we're up 2 or more scores.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 12:20:05 PM   
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I think the Dline will be average.

The 4 LBers could be elite as pass rushers, but there could be weaknesses against the run.

I have not been a fan of KC, but I think he COULD win a SB, and I expect no less than 10 regular season wins this year.

I will count Smith and Hunter as D Line and there is no possible way a D Line with Smith, Hunter and Phillips could be average. I also see no possible way that group has a weakness against the run.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 12:23:37 PM   
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We can win the SB with Cousins. Period.

I think you need luck, team chemistry, a great system, and a good QB.

If having that Elite QB was all that mattered Rodgers would have more than 1.

Good point
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 12:29:53 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 1:49:38 PM   
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I think we're going to come out of the gate sizzling hot.

I want to see our backups in the 4th qtr not our backs up against the wall.

Throttle down until the opposing team knows its over.


Our D Line is going to be elite. There's a whole lot of good that can come from that. Demoralize the other team early with some sacks and forced fumbles.


If you include our OLBs as D Line.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 6:04:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		My mistake, I thought a 3-4, meant the 3 were called the DL, the 4 the LBers.

So is it then a 5 man line ?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 6:08:18 PM   
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My mistake, I thought a 3-4, meant the 3 were called the DL, the 4 the LBers.

So is it then a 5 man line ?


You were right. They're considered OLBs.

At it's base, its a 3 man line, but often either one of the OLBs will also line up on the LoS making it look more like a 4-3.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 6:17:45 PM   
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My mistake, I thought a 3-4, meant the 3 were called the DL, the 4 the LBers.

So is it then a 5 man line ?


You were right. They're considered OLBs.

At it's base, its a 3 man line, but often either one of the OLBs will also line up on the LoS making it look more like a 4-3.

I think the easiest way to look at it is as a front seven. I think our front seven will be elite.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 6:55:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone know why the game isn’t being shown on NFL network? Their website says it’s Tuesday at 1200 AM but FUBO doesn’t show it at all.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 7:11:31 PM   
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Anyone know why the game isn’t being shown on NFL network? Their website says it’s Tuesday at 1200 AM but FUBO doesn’t show it at all.


I see it showing 1:00 am so 3rd of 4 games at the 7pm time slot.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/19/2022 8:51:17 PM   
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Anyone know why the game isn’t being shown on NFL network? Their website says it’s Tuesday at 1200 AM but FUBO doesn’t show it at all.

We have it on Saturday at 6 pm on local ABC..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 6:51:24 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 6:57:19 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 10:10:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think some of you are setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think this defense will be elite.

We've been fielding about a 27th ranked defense the last couple years. Elite is top 5. I think reaching a 15th ranking would be more realistic.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 10:17:04 AM   
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Anyone know why the game isn’t being shown on NFL network? Their website says it’s Tuesday at 1200 AM but FUBO doesn’t show it at all.

We have it on Saturday at 6 pm on local ABC..


Got excited for a second. Nope. 1am for me...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 10:39:55 AM   
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I think some of you are setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think this defense will be elite.

We've been fielding about a 27th ranked defense the last couple years. Elite is top 5. I think reaching a 15th ranking would be more realistic.

This team hasn’t pitched a shutout since December of 2017, against the packers.

I want this defense to quit giving up points in the last 2 minutes of either half, and to stop letting teams score on opening possessions.

That would be a huge improvement, in my opinion.

I’m sick of having to watch nail biters that come down to a do or die situation on offense or defense, in the last 30 seconds of a game.

I’m getting to old for that crap.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 10:52:53 AM   
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I think some of you are setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think this defense will be elite.

We've been fielding about a 27th ranked defense the last couple years. Elite is top 5. I think reaching a 15th ranking would be more realistic.

15th is much more realistic than top 5, but I can easily see this defense as top 10. All that would take is Hunter and Smith playing all year. Top 5 is possible if everything falls into place.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 11:05:29 AM   
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I think some of you are setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think this defense will be elite.

We've been fielding about a 27th ranked defense the last couple years. Elite is top 5. I think reaching a 15th ranking would be more realistic.

This team hasn’t pitched a shutout since December of 2017, against the packers.

I want this defense to quit giving up points in the last 2 minutes of either half, and to stop letting teams score on opening possessions.

That would be a huge improvement, in my opinion.

I’m sick of having to watch nail biters that come down to a do or die situation on offense or defense, in the last 30 seconds of a game.

I’m getting to old for that crap.

Zim coached like an absolute coward I will not miss watching that crap either.

It shouldn't be too difficult for this defense to jump 10-15 spots up this season by merely not crawling into a shell the last 2 minutes of each half.
That was damned frustrating to watch.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 11:14:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the defense will be in the top 15, more around 20.

DL is very average (maybe even BELOW average), LBers are good, but Smith is susceptible to the run, and Hunter may be as well. The inside LBers, and 2ndary may have to make up ground there.

2ndary will run lots of zone, so it will probably be mediocre at best.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 11:17:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		It may be fun if the offense can get leads, pass rush should be strong.

But I thought the same thing 30 some years ago. Imagine the number of sacks Millard/Doleman/Thomas/Noga would have had if that team had gotten off to more fast starts.

Instead, teams found ways to run on them, usually after Doleman left a big run lane.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 1:08:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		In 2021, once we had Pierce back, I thought the Pierce/Tomlinson/Hunter/Griffen D-line would be stout and fearsome. But, teams ran right through that D-line and our LBs had to try and salvage a 4-5 yard gain, which usually meant a 5-7 yard gain on 1st down. I look at our line now and I have that same optimism but, can't fool me twice, I'd expect to see some struggles stopping the run, at least in the early go until they gel more as a team and trust each other to know their job. Maybe having a simpler scheme will pay dividends but I still expect confusion as teams game plan to our inexperience. I do like the front 7 a lot though, there is a lot of talent there and I think they'll gel pretty fast.

It's really the secondary I worry most about. Harrison and Peterson are blessings considering the youth we have back there. They have a tough task to get the youngins playing fast and keeping the bleeding down while learning the D. Cine and Boothe provide some hope and I think Dantzler will shine more in this player friendly environment. That Chandon guy might be worrisome but I can't believe he can be worse than Alexander was last year (please no).

I'd love to start fast and then build on an evolving game plan, gotta start the season with hope. Tonight will be a decent gage of how we're faring in the trenches and what the secondary is looking like. Vanilla or not, I'm excited to see less 3 TE sets and more WRs in the game too, that makes me smile.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 3:07:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		This year it’s Tomlinson, Phillips, hunter, and Z smith plus lynch or watts and depth at both DL and OLB. And grandpa won’t be there to hold them back. I’m not saying elite D I’m saying elite OLB and DL. The five.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 5:10:37 PM   
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Going to be watching Bradbury today to see if he does his job or is getting blown up. If it's the latter, they better get on the phone and find a center.


Looks like Bradbury isn't expected to play tonight.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 5:53:23 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/20/2022 11:57:03 PM   
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Anyone know why the game isn’t being shown on NFL network? Their website says it’s Tuesday at 1200 AM but FUBO doesn’t show it at all.

It's on at 10:00 Pacific, aka Soon O'Clock.
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