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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 2:13:47 PM   
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Regarding Wyatt Davis, I read the other day, and I apologize for not having the link, but the story was that Davis was a Spielman pick. The article said that at least two scouts didn't even have him graded as a backup.(Implied they were Viking Scouts but who knows) However, Spielman wanted him and that was that. Would certainly understand if that caused friction with Zim. He's got a starter QB he doesn't trust, a third round QB that he hates, and now high round guard that apparently can't Crack the lineup. The thing about Davis is concerning to me if true

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 2:15:50 PM   
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spotrac has us at about $10.6mm under the cap, with thielen's new deal yet to be factored in - so, should be about $16mm under....we still have a kendricks' extension and/or cj ham's contract to find additional cap space....

the draft pool is at $6.2mm right now....

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 2:38:22 PM   
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Probably wasn't worth the offer:
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 2:44:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SAMiller711r

Regarding Wyatt Davis, I read the other day, and I apologize for not having the link, but the story was that Davis was a Spielman pick. The article said that at least two scouts didn't even have him graded as a backup.(Implied they were Viking Scouts but who knows) However, Spielman wanted him and that was that. Would certainly understand if that caused friction with Zim. He's got a starter QB he doesn't trust, a third round QB that he hates, and now high round guard that apparently can't Crack the lineup. The thing about Davis is concerning to me if true



wyatt davis is a guy that nobody, but people in here, talk about...he was rated as a 2nd round pick on many scouting sites, and by mock draftniks...his NFL prospect grade was 6.24 = average starter...he's a big dude, and was honored in college....

2019 - first-team Associated Press All-American and first-team All-Big Ten accolades

2020 - first-team AP All-American and all-conference selection


thedraftnetwork listed him as Starting Right Guard, Plug & Play

bleacherreport named him #37 of their top 300 draft prospects - we picked him at #86
Above-average athletic ability and quickness.
Physical player with a nasty demeanor; looks to finish and dominate his opponent.
Stout anchor; does a nice job creating force through the ground to throttle down the momentum of the bull-rush, strain, and reset his hands underneath the frame of rushers to maintain control.

nflmockdraftdatabase - overall ranked at #55, with 37% of mocks having him drafted in the 1st round


sure, it's possible that everyone was wrong - happens all the time, but knowing what we know about last season's mike zimmer i think we have a reason to be guardedly positive....

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 2:51:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: SAMiller711r

Regarding Wyatt Davis, I read the other day, and I apologize for not having the link, but the story was that Davis was a Spielman pick. The article said that at least two scouts didn't even have him graded as a backup.(Implied they were Viking Scouts but who knows) However, Spielman wanted him and that was that. Would certainly understand if that caused friction with Zim. He's got a starter QB he doesn't trust, a third round QB that he hates, and now high round guard that apparently can't Crack the lineup. The thing about Davis is concerning to me if true



wyatt davis is a guy that nobody, but people in here, talk about...he was rated as a 2nd round pick on many scouting sites, and by mock draftniks...his NFL prospect grade was 6.24 = average starter...he's a big dude, and was honored in college....

2019 - first-team Associated Press All-American and first-team All-Big Ten accolades

2020 - first-team AP All-American and all-conference selection


thedraftnetwork listed him as Starting Right Guard, Plug & Play

bleacherreport named him #37 of their top 300 draft prospects - we picked him at #86
Above-average athletic ability and quickness.
Physical player with a nasty demeanor; looks to finish and dominate his opponent.
Stout anchor; does a nice job creating force through the ground to throttle down the momentum of the bull-rush, strain, and reset his hands underneath the frame of rushers to maintain control.

nflmockdraftdatabase - overall ranked at #55, with 37% of mocks having him drafted in the 1st round

sure, it's possible that everyone was wrong - happens all the time, but knowing what we know about last season's mike zimmer i think we have a reason to be guardedly positive....


I think we will know more this year...knee injury late in the college year and it seems he was really working hard this past offseason.

It would be great if he panned out.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 3:46:44 PM   
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Ian Rapoport
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Former #Dolphins OL Jesse Davis is expected to sign with the #Vikings, source said. With 72 starts in 5 years, he provides depth and versatility.

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The #Vikings have made the following roster moves

• Signed OL Jesse Davis
• Signed CB Nate Hairston
• Re-signed CB Tye Smith

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 3/28/2022 3:54:38 PM >


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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 5:17:29 PM   
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Source says that new #Vikings offensive lineman (and leading candidate to start at right guard) Jesse Davis has signed a one-year deal and here are particulars. $1.25 million base salary, $1.5 million signing bonus, $50,000 workout bonus, $200,000 in roster bonuses.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 5:38:27 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source says that new #Vikings offensive lineman (and leading candidate to start at right guard) Jesse Davis has signed a one-year deal and here are particulars. $1.25 million base salary, $1.5 million signing bonus, $50,000 workout bonus, $200,000 in roster bonuses.

That is no shoo-in deal for a presumptive starter. That is a slightly better Cole Dozier Jones type deal for someone who will start if we fail over the next 5 months to find someone better. Its a deal for someone basic with versatility, not talent.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 6:13:16 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source says that new #Vikings offensive lineman (and leading candidate to start at right guard) Jesse Davis has signed a one-year deal and here are particulars. $1.25 million base salary, $1.5 million signing bonus, $50,000 workout bonus, $200,000 in roster bonuses.

That is no shoo-in deal for a presumptive starter. That is a slightly better Cole Dozier Jones type deal for someone who will start if we fail over the next 5 months to find someone better. Its a deal for someone basic with versatility, not talent.


Come on man, look at our versatile depth! Schlottmann is the epitome of 'IOL', so much so he trademarked the acronym. W Davis was working at C, that right there is proven versatility. J Davis? Need a G, he'll give you T experience... a Cleveland clone. Udoh is so versatile they will run reps for him at TE. And we already know Bradbury will be the FB.

Plus these newbies have ties to our 22 coaches. Guarantee there are no six degrees of separation with any FA, or league player for that matter.... two degrees max.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/28/2022 9:24:46 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source says that new #Vikings offensive lineman (and leading candidate to start at right guard) Jesse Davis has signed a one-year deal and here are particulars. $1.25 million base salary, $1.5 million signing bonus, $50,000 workout bonus, $200,000 in roster bonuses.

That is no shoo-in deal for a presumptive starter. That is a slightly better Cole Dozier Jones type deal for someone who will start if we fail over the next 5 months to find someone better. Its a deal for someone basic with versatility, not talent.


Come on man, look at our versatile depth! Schlottmann is the epitome of 'IOL', so much so he trademarked the acronym. W Davis was working at C, that right there is proven versatility. J Davis? Need a G, he'll give you T experience... a Cleveland clone. Udoh is so versatile they will run reps for him at TE. And we already know Bradbury will be the FB.

Plus these newbies have ties to our 22 coaches. Guarantee there are no six degrees of separation with any FA, or league player for that matter.... two degrees max.

Holy Nepotism, direct descendants Zad Smith, Hairston, Sullivan, Schlottmann, J Davis, Mundt vs orphans Phillips, Hicks.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 5:14:37 PM   
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Pro-Bowl CB Patrick Peterson is returning to Minnesota on a one-year contract, he announced. Peterson had said on his podcast,
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 5:17:21 PM   
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I'm glad.

Pair him with the pick @12 and we're doing alright.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 5:23:10 PM   
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Adam Schefter
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Pro-Bowl CB Patrick Peterson is returning to Minnesota on a one-year contract, he announced. Peterson had said on his podcast,
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KAM has been pretty shrewd lately.

I'll guess 5M.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 5:30:00 PM   
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I'm glad.

Pair him with the pick @12 and we're doing alright.

Stingley
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 5:44:42 PM   
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I'm glad.

Pair him with the pick @12 and we're doing alright.

Stingley


I'll throw my hat in for McDuffle.

Could make our return team elite as a bonus.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 7:05:54 PM   
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I'm glad.

Pair him with the pick @12 and we're doing alright.

Stingley


Sauce, depending on Stingley's injury. He's supposed to participate in LSU's Pro Day on Apr 6.

Read that his tape since 2019 is far less than sterling.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 9:50:23 PM   
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Yesss!!! Another missing piece of the puzzle.

Missing since January.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/30/2022 10:53:52 PM   
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Yesss!!! Another missing piece of the puzzle.

Missing since January.


6th?

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 12:56:37 AM   
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Yesss!!! Another missing piece of the puzzle.

Missing since January.


6th?

Jan 9.

We’re getting the band back together including PP.

Recapture some of that 8-9 magic.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:06:05 AM   
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Yesss!!! Another missing piece of the puzzle.

Missing since January.


6th?

Jan 9.

We’re getting the band back together including PP.

Recapture some of that 8-9 magic.


Peterson said they're running it back.

Guess that phrase has been watered down.
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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:09:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SAMiller711r

Regarding Wyatt Davis, I read the other day, and I apologize for not having the link, but the story was that Davis was a Spielman pick. The article said that at least two scouts didn't even have him graded as a backup.(Implied they were Viking Scouts but who knows) However, Spielman wanted him and that was that. Would certainly understand if that caused friction with Zim. He's got a starter QB he doesn't trust, a third round QB that he hates, and now high round guard that apparently can't Crack the lineup. The thing about Davis is concerning to me if true



wyatt davis is a guy that nobody, but people in here, talk about...he was rated as a 2nd round pick on many scouting sites, and by mock draftniks...his NFL prospect grade was 6.24 = average starter...he's a big dude, and was honored in college....

2019 - first-team Associated Press All-American and first-team All-Big Ten accolades

2020 - first-team AP All-American and all-conference selection


thedraftnetwork listed him as Starting Right Guard, Plug & Play

bleacherreport named him #37 of their top 300 draft prospects - we picked him at #86
Above-average athletic ability and quickness.
Physical player with a nasty demeanor; looks to finish and dominate his opponent.
Stout anchor; does a nice job creating force through the ground to throttle down the momentum of the bull-rush, strain, and reset his hands underneath the frame of rushers to maintain control.

nflmockdraftdatabase - overall ranked at #55, with 37% of mocks having him drafted in the 1st round


sure, it's possible that everyone was wrong - happens all the time, but knowing what we know about last season's mike zimmer i think we have a reason to be guardedly positive....

Last year PFF site had him as a late 1st rounder.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:17:26 AM   
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patrick peterson's deal factored in; we are $12.6mm under the cap...there are still a couple of smaller deals not included, but we should be about $11mm under, and we're done with free agency....

peterson's cap hit is $3.9mm, and no ghost years...no cap hit in 2023 or beyond....

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:23:53 AM   
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Regarding Wyatt Davis, I read the other day, and I apologize for not having the link, but the story was that Davis was a Spielman pick. The article said that at least two scouts didn't even have him graded as a backup.(Implied they were Viking Scouts but who knows) However, Spielman wanted him and that was that. Would certainly understand if that caused friction with Zim. He's got a starter QB he doesn't trust, a third round QB that he hates, and now high round guard that apparently can't Crack the lineup. The thing about Davis is concerning to me if true



wyatt davis is a guy that nobody, but people in here, talk about...he was rated as a 2nd round pick on many scouting sites, and by mock draftniks...his NFL prospect grade was 6.24 = average starter...he's a big dude, and was honored in college....

2019 - first-team Associated Press All-American and first-team All-Big Ten accolades

2020 - first-team AP All-American and all-conference selection


thedraftnetwork listed him as Starting Right Guard, Plug & Play

bleacherreport named him #37 of their top 300 draft prospects - we picked him at #86
Above-average athletic ability and quickness.
Physical player with a nasty demeanor; looks to finish and dominate his opponent.
Stout anchor; does a nice job creating force through the ground to throttle down the momentum of the bull-rush, strain, and reset his hands underneath the frame of rushers to maintain control.

nflmockdraftdatabase - overall ranked at #55, with 37% of mocks having him drafted in the 1st round


sure, it's possible that everyone was wrong - happens all the time, but knowing what we know about last season's mike zimmer i think we have a reason to be guardedly positive....

Last year PFF site had him as a late 1st rounder.



yes, there you go....

wyatt davis is either contending with jesse davis at right guard, or Bradbury at center...hopefully he can beat one of those two out for a starting job....

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:31:35 AM   
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patrick peterson's deal factored in; we are $12.6mm under the cap...there are still a couple of smaller deals not included, but we should be about $11mm under, and we're done with free agency....

peterson's cap hit is $3.9mm, and no ghost years...no cap hit in 2023 or beyond....


Yeah it is probably going to be saved for Camp Cuts or do the reverse and bring some cap from 23-24 to 22.
There are some smidgets of Honey Badger rumors but I think Tretter is questionable as he couldn't practice most of last year and was playing with a bad leg apparently.

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RE: 2022 Free Agency - 3/31/2022 8:41:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Yesss!!! Another missing piece of the puzzle.

Missing since January.


6th?

Jan 9.

We’re getting the band back together including PP.

Recapture some of that 8-9 magic.


Peterson said they're running it back.

Guess that phrase has been watered down.

In his podcast comments he also said we were going to ‘defend the NFC North.’ Ok.

Atleast, we invested enough analytics into the situation to re-sign Peterson over Breeland.

Its like that woody allen spiel, one path leads to despair and hopelessness, the other to total extinction … hope we can choose wisely.
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