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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/12/2022 11:31:24 PM   
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Simmons not returning is why I like. More
pop than I thought and can steal bases.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 11:31:55 AM   
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Kick kick kick...Twins are apparently interested in Johnny Cueto...kick kick kick

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 12:57:49 PM   
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Kick kick kick...Twins are apparently interested in Johnny Cueto...kick kick kick



Sonny Gray and a minor league pitcher for last year's #1, Chase Petty

Instant upgrade to the rotation.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 8:42:56 PM   
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Kick kick kick...Twins are apparently interested in Johnny Cueto...kick kick kick

Sonny Gray and a minor league pitcher for last year's #1, Chase Petty

Instant upgrade to the rotation.

Not sure how I feel about this one. Gray does improve the rotation in the short term, but if they are giving up Petty, I'd like to get something more. Gray is only 19 and tops 100 mph. That's a ton of upside to give up so quickly. Almost like they traded him before they fully knew what they had.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 9:48:05 PM   
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Source confirms: Yankees acquiring 3B Josh Donaldson, SS Isiah Kiner-Falefa and Ben Rortvedt for Gary Sánchez and Gio Urshela. First: @JeffPassan.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 10:18:22 PM   
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Goddammit, I just bought a Kiner-Falefa jersey.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/13/2022 10:21:09 PM   
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Wonder Twins busy so far.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 12:31:27 AM   
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Twins -- Sanchez is a horrible defensive catcher. Worse than Garver. Some say he would DH here, but isn't that what Sano should be doing? And the Twins have no other options at catcher other than Jeffers. They seem really thin at the position so another deal has to be coming. I doubt we go into 2022 with Sanchez and Jeffers and nothing else. And Sanchez has regressed at the dish too. His SLG the second half of last year was just .350. He is basically a Miguel Sano clone.

Urshela is not a natural SS. He's a very good 3B, but he is a slight downgrade from Kiner-Falefa in the field. He hits with a little more power, but he gets hurt and is slow. Basically this trade was Donaldson for Urshela (Sanchez and Garver cancel each other out) and it was done to save $18 million this year and maybe $13 million next year as Urshela makes $4.5 million this year and will get $10 million in arbitration next year. Are they going to use that money to get a pitcher?

And what about the position? Urshela is probably best used at 3B which leaves a hole at SS. Do they think Royce Lewis and Nick Gordon can fill it? I hope they trade Arraez, keep Polanco at 2B, and either make a splash with Story at SS or play Lewis and Gordon there. Arraez is a bad defender at 3B so I hope that's not their plan.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 12:34:19 AM   
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Yankees -- They now have five full-time infielders (Voit, Torres, Kiner-Falefa, Donaldson, and LeMahieu). They also have Higashioka and Rortvedt catching. There has to be another trade coming for them. Should be fun if they keep Donaldson as it was him who called out Gerrit Cole for cheating.
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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 12:37:07 AM   
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Cruz signs with Washington for just $12 million? I would have guessed he would have gone to San Francisco or San Diego or the Dodgers for around $15 million. You would have thought he would have wanted to go to a good team.

Edit -- there's a $3 million buyout so it's really a $15 million deal. Go where the money is!

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 6:09:08 AM   
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Urshela is probably best used at 3B which leaves a hole at SS. Do they think Royce Lewis and Nick Gordon can fill it? I hope they trade Arraez, keep Polanco at 2B, and either make a splash with Story at SS or play Lewis and Gordon there. Arraez is a bad defender at 3B so I hope that's not their plan.


Flip Sanchez, sign Story, maybe put Arraez in that deal too. Get another pitcher that isn't Pineda

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 6:29:18 AM   
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The Twins set the Hot Stove ablaze with a stunning five-player blockbuster trade with their longtime nemeses in the Bronx in the deep hours of Sunday night, acquiring catcher Gary Sánchez and infielder Gio Urshela from the Yankees in exchange for third baseman Josh Donaldson, catcher Ben Rortvedt and shortstop Isiah Kiner-Falefa, whose tenure in Minnesota didn't make it to the 36-hour mark.


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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 6:58:57 AM   
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I think everything we're doing is a money dump. Even the Sonny Gray trade can be seen as a money dump. He's cheap for an ace, and has a team option for 2023. Now we don't have to worry about paying last year's 1st round pick. We got out of the Donaldson contract. No way are we going for Correa or Story. The team still wouldn't be all that good with one of them. Polanco probably starts at SS until Royce Lewis is ready.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 7:00:18 AM   
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We managed to downgrade our defense at the #2 catcher position from Mitch Garver.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 7:01:02 AM   
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I'm happy Rortvedt is gone though. Rocco was developing a mancrush on him.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 7:41:06 AM   
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Sounds like someone had a crush on Donaldson.

I think they believe that Miranda is almost ready and they might have Ursela play short if Royce is almost ready. I think I understand everything that happened except Sanchez but if he can hit---a backup catcher/DH.

They had 25 million to play with now 40...what will they do?

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 7:44:13 AM   
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Strange trade for Texas. They traded for Jonah Heim last year and also have Jose Trevino there. And then they have Sam Huff waiting in AAA. They have guys like Nate Lowe and Willie Calhoun to play first and DH. Seems like they should have dealt Kiner-Falefa for pitching since they just signed Martin Perez as their #3 starter.

Twins will need another backstop with just Rortvedt and Jeffers rostered. They must like Jeffers a lot. I wonder is Astudillo is coming back?

The vibe seems to be that Astudillo will be moving on. Even if he were to stay the Twins don't trust him at catcher.

I'd like to see the Twins bring in somebody to compete with Rordvedt to be the backup. He is great behind the plate, but his bat is a complete liability.


Saw that Astudillo is joining the Marlins.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 7:57:39 AM   
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Looks like a salary dump, pure and simple. I doubt it is to free up money for pitching since the FA pickings are pretty slim.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 8:04:24 AM   
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I think everything we're doing is a money dump. Even the Sonny Gray trade can be seen as a money dump. He's cheap for an ace, and has a team option for 2023. Now we don't have to worry about paying last year's 1st round pick. We got out of the Donaldson contract. No way are we going for Correa or Story. The team still wouldn't be all that good with one of them. Polanco probably starts at SS until Royce Lewis is ready.

It was like the Maeda deal. Add a steady/ unspectacular pitcher on a team friendly deal for a couple of years. If he falls on his face, they can dump him after one year.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 8:18:44 AM   
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Agreed on Rortvedt

And I’ll miss Donaldson

Signed him them decide to go cheaper on everything else

I hate the Pohlads

All that new revenue

And next year 39.55 million on guaranteed money

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 8:34:20 AM   
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Buy a Ferrari so they cash poor Pohlads can afford to add real talent to the baseball team

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 8:41:39 AM   
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Looks like a salary dump, pure and simple. I doubt it is to free up money for pitching since the FA pickings are pretty slim.

Great minds. Be careful.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 8:42:58 AM   
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I think everything we're doing is a money dump. Even the Sonny Gray trade can be seen as a money dump. He's cheap for an ace, and has a team option for 2023. Now we don't have to worry about paying last year's 1st round pick. We got out of the Donaldson contract. No way are we going for Correa or Story. The team still wouldn't be all that good with one of them. Polanco probably starts at SS until Royce Lewis is ready.

It was like the Maeda deal. Add a steady/ unspectacular pitcher on a team friendly deal for a couple of years. If he falls on his face, they can dump him after one year.

And the sheople will be fooled into thinking it's not a salary dump, because we got a couple big name players from the Yankees, and former Yankee Sonny Gray. Win-win for Twins management!

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 9:07:35 AM   
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Freaking PA. On a weekend when the Twins trade away Mitch Garver, Josh Donaldson and our #1 pick from last year Chase Petty, he starts the show with Vikings "news." REALLY?!!?! Oblivious to KFAN's baseball fan listeners. Insulting.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 3/14/2022 9:12:47 AM   
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If the Twins are serious they will trade for Montas, sign Story and a closer. 40 million is plenty to get it done. Lets see what they do.

Sanchez, Kirilloff, Sano can trade off DH.

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