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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/22/2022 2:37:30 PM   
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Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/22/2022 2:50:47 PM   
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Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.


Or pay the good coaches so they don't leave? Embarrassing.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/22/2022 4:20:25 PM   
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Rocco IMO is a figured head. He does exactly what he is told by the slide rule brothers.
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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/22/2022 4:33:00 PM  1 votes
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Rocco IMO is a figured head. He does exactly what he is told by the slide rule brothers.


Using a slide rule is a lot more complicated than Falvine could ever figure out. They would look at it as a combination measuring device, expandable paint stirrer.

They are stat-head wannabes who know nothing about true statistics.

My big problem with Rocco in addition to his complete ignorance on managing a bullpen is his failure to recognize that even MLB players need regular practice on fundamentals.

Our basic fielding is abysmal.

And can we finally get a training staff that works effectively throughout the organization that stresses basic pregame and in game necessities such as stretching and get a consistent approach to trying to keep pitchers healthy.

And no more players who refuse to get vaccinated.

There is no way that Jimmy P will clean house or order Falvine to clean house such as head of drafting, etc. Rocco is here to stay as are Falvine.

Sell the team Jimmy. You have zero interest in baseball and even less knowledge about the game.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/22/2022 5:49:13 PM   
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I'm done with Rocco. Too many inexplicable in-game decisions this season.







It only took him what...about 142 games to figure that one out?

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 7:18:48 AM   
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I still don't understand a couple of things going into the season:

Counting on Pagan, Duffey, and Smith in high leveraged roles going into the season and then coutinuing to use them.
Thinking that Winder, Ober, Canterino, Balazavic, Buxton, etc. were going to stay healthy all year.
As what was seen with Sands; failed starters with 1 dominate pitch are better than pitchers who can't get back their dominate stuff (Duffey, Smith, Pagan)....moxie works a small % of the time. Aaron Sanchez would have been a better option for high leverage than Duffey, Pagan, or Smith.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 7:48:01 AM   
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Twins plans are based on hope

When you bargain bin or rehab failing guys you hope they return to form

You hope they can recapture the magic of however many seasons ago

You hope injury prone guys aren’t

And you don’t have enough depth to deal with it

Which is why the Correa deal is so weird

They hoped on all that and he would stay

No they didn’t
They spent to not look cheap
And hopes trading for damaged players would work

All flawed

Just like thinking advanced stats should determine handling pitching in every game

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 8:10:47 AM   
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Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.


Or pay the good coaches so they don't leave? Embarrassing.

Who would they be?

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 8:14:26 AM   
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I'm done with Rocco. Too many inexplicable in-game decisions this season.

Thank you lord, Matt has seen the light, finally!

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 8:34:23 AM   
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Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.


Or pay the good coaches so they don't leave? Embarrassing.

Who would they be?

I think he is referring to Wes leaving for a college job in mid-season.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 9:46:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.


Or pay the good coaches so they don't leave? Embarrassing.

Who would they be?

I think he is referring to Wes leaving for a college job in mid-season.

OK gotcha, I thought I heard that was more for family reasons than money though wasn't it?

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 11:22:33 AM   
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He never panned out.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 2:20:15 PM   
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=poffo-001ran

He never panned out.

Yeah, after he tore it up his 3rd time through the Gulf Coast league, everyone thought he was on his way. He should have started the steroids before he gave up baseball.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 2:21:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Fire Rockhead and bring back Rowson to manage.


Or pay the good coaches so they don't leave? Embarrassing.

Who would they be?

I think he is referring to Wes leaving for a college job in mid-season.

OK gotcha, I thought I heard that was more for family reasons than money though wasn't it?

Both. The college job paid more than the Twins are willing to pay a major league pitching coach.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 6:12:55 PM   
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#MNTwins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey says Rocco Baldelli will continue as manager next season.

“He’s my partner in this all the way through. Rocco is a big part of our future, not just next season but beyond.”
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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 6:57:41 PM   
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Translation; I pull the strings and he jumps.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/23/2022 8:29:48 PM   
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Translation; I pull the strings and he jumps.

BINGO

A JOKE OF AN ORGANIZATION

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/24/2022 7:14:32 AM   
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Translation; I pull the strings and he jumps.

BINGO

A JOKE OF AN ORGANIZATION


No more beating up on KC and Detroit with the gross division schedule.

A balanced schedule = another sub 500 season in 23

Enjoy the stay in loserville. Twins spend and lose. That's some real management.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/25/2022 9:38:41 PM   
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Spencer Steer with a huge HR today.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/26/2022 8:07:05 AM   
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The owner is soft, the front office is soft, the manager is fricking Charmin, and it's no surprise that the players have become softer than butter sitting on a picnic table in July.

Not only that but they play stupid, non-fundamentally sound baseball more often than not.

They are a combined 22 and 13 against KC and Detroit.

52 and 66 against the rest of the league.

I don't have a lot of hope for next season either, especially with the schedule changes.

Matt, change my mind.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/26/2022 8:53:18 AM   
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I see that there was a suggestion that Pagan would only cost 4-5 million next year.



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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/26/2022 10:08:54 AM   
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I see that there was a suggestion that Pagan would only cost 4-5 million next year.



Everyone on Talkvikes would play for the league minimum and be better options than Pagan

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/26/2022 11:06:58 AM   
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I see that there was a suggestion that Pagan would only cost 4-5 million next year.



Everyone on Talkvikes would play for the league minimum and be better options than Pagan


Sands looks the part way more than Pagan; league minimum.

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/27/2022 6:21:02 AM   
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New uniforms! New Scoreboards


WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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RE: Twins 2022 Season and Game Day Thread - 9/27/2022 3:28:25 PM   
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Seth Stohs says I should catch the next 9 games of the Twins;
I would rather watch the Season Finale of Big Brother again. I can't even watch the Youtube daily recap of the Twins.

Yet they marketing and sales department....wish they were as worried about winning.

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