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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 10:34:07 AM   
David Levine


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I am no longer an Ant Man fan.


How old is he; so much cancel culture from your side. He didn't wait long to apologize but continue as you will.


Oh look, Phil throwing out another buzz word he doesn't understand...

Is it the worst thing ever? Nope.

Does it make him a bad person that you can't root for? Nope.

Was it an off the cuff comment? Probably.

But, did he then choose to post his homophobic comment to his hundreds of thousands of social media followers? Yup.

Does his quick apology look more like damage control than anything else? Also yup.

All in all, this is likely a minor incident that will be forgotten by most of the NBA followers in short notice. But it also has a strong chance of damaging the very lucrative image he's been crafting the past 2 years.


Oh look 10 sentences of condescending drivel from DL when Matt was fishing....yes it is cancel culture.


Calling out (or being upset with) people for bad things is not "cancel culture".

Your guy has you so twisted you can't tell up from down anymore.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 10:34:40 AM   
David Levine


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Status: offline 		Anthony Edwards’ NBA career gave him a platform. He used it for homophobia
RK Russell

The Timberwolves star has issued an apology after a bigoted social media post. His punishment should hurt, while also allowing room for growth

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/13/anthony-edwards-homophobia-instagram-nba-minnesota-timberwolves-basketball
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 11:39:50 AM   
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I am no longer an Ant Man fan.

An expression of displeasure with Ant. That’s not cancel culture. You either don't understand the expression or you're willfully misusing it.


It's the victim card. They think anyone who expresses disapproval of something stupid is participating in cancel culture.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 11:48:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I am no longer an Ant Man fan.


How old is he; so much cancel culture from your side. He didn't wait long to apologize but continue as you will.


Oh look, Phil throwing out another buzz word he doesn't understand...

Is it the worst thing ever? Nope.

Does it make him a bad person that you can't root for? Nope.

Was it an off the cuff comment? Probably.

But, did he then choose to post his homophobic comment to his hundreds of thousands of social media followers? Yup.

Does his quick apology look more like damage control than anything else? Also yup.

All in all, this is likely a minor incident that will be forgotten by most of the NBA followers in short notice. But it also has a strong chance of damaging the very lucrative image he's been crafting the past 2 years.


Oh look 10 sentences of condescending drivel from DL when Matt was fishing....yes it is cancel culture.


Calling out (or being upset with) people for bad things is not "cancel culture".

Your guy has you so twisted you can't tell up from down anymore.


My guy? You talk about him more than I do.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:11:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I am no longer an Ant Man fan.


How old is he; so much cancel culture from your side. He didn't wait long to apologize but continue as you will.


Oh look, Phil throwing out another buzz word he doesn't understand...

Is it the worst thing ever? Nope.

Does it make him a bad person that you can't root for? Nope.

Was it an off the cuff comment? Probably.

But, did he then choose to post his homophobic comment to his hundreds of thousands of social media followers? Yup.

Does his quick apology look more like damage control than anything else? Also yup.

All in all, this is likely a minor incident that will be forgotten by most of the NBA followers in short notice. But it also has a strong chance of damaging the very lucrative image he's been crafting the past 2 years.


Oh look 10 sentences of condescending drivel from DL when Matt was fishing....yes it is cancel culture.


Calling out (or being upset with) people for bad things is not "cancel culture".

Your guy has you so twisted you can't tell up from down anymore.


My guy? You talk about him more than I do.


Because there is a whole lot more negative about him. He also happens to be a pretty major news story right now...
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:30:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I am no longer an Ant Man fan.


How old is he; so much cancel culture from your side. He didn't wait long to apologize but continue as you will.


Oh look, Phil throwing out another buzz word he doesn't understand...

Is it the worst thing ever? Nope.

Does it make him a bad person that you can't root for? Nope.

Was it an off the cuff comment? Probably.

But, did he then choose to post his homophobic comment to his hundreds of thousands of social media followers? Yup.

Does his quick apology look more like damage control than anything else? Also yup.

All in all, this is likely a minor incident that will be forgotten by most of the NBA followers in short notice. But it also has a strong chance of damaging the very lucrative image he's been crafting the past 2 years.


Oh look 10 sentences of condescending drivel from DL when Matt was fishing....yes it is cancel culture.


Calling out (or being upset with) people for bad things is not "cancel culture".

Your guy has you so twisted you can't tell up from down anymore.


My guy? You talk about him more than I do.

What side can't tell up from down because of Trump? I think we know.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:44:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed. That would be yours and Phil's side. But, I digress. If we're going to keep going in this direction, take it to the politics thread.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:45:33 PM   
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Agreed. That would be yours and Phil's side. But, I digress. If we're going to keep going in this direction, take it to the politics thread.

LTS
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:46:50 PM   
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 12:57:00 PM   
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Status: online 		We need camp to open : ) My two-bits. Dumb remarks by Ant, it may tarnish his image a bit but still a minor mistake by a 21 yr old. Personally, my opinion, if the League and so o o o many important elements and people in it can put Kobe Bryant on a pedestal after his "sexual assault" when he was 25 (and only not prosecuted as rape because the young woman got intimidated and won't testify any more) I seriously doubt Ant's remarks will be remembered by any but a few by next year. And yes, I hold that against what I see as Bryants legacy.

If I didn't absolutely hate references to politicians and outside topics on this forum, I would make a negative comment about famous people who pay woman for sexual favors sometimes earned, sometimes forced, but I do hate it so I won't.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 1:28:01 PM   
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He also used the N-word.


Whatever...I will watch the Timberwolves before the Twins in April and May and June.

Matt's Dirty Marketing plan for the Twins; cancel culture the Wolves.

Matt when did you last use the Q word on someone? HMMM?

I don't use those words. It's not in my nature.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 1:53:46 PM   
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He also used the N-word.


Whatever...I will watch the Timberwolves before the Twins in April and May and June.

Matt's Dirty Marketing plan for the Twins; cancel culture the Wolves.

Matt when did you last use the Q word on someone? HMMM?

I don't use those words. It's not in my nature.

All I could find in a non extensive internet search was Ant used the word queer.
Anybody who uses words like douche or any other feminine product or calling men by women's names in a derogatory manner is as guilty or more than Ant was using the word queer in a derogatory manner towards homosexuals. Homosexuals use that word to refer to themselves in a television show called Queer As Folk.
We're here, we're queer, get used to it.

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 9/13/2022 1:58:45 PM >

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 2:11:59 PM   
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He also used the N-word.


Whatever...I will watch the Timberwolves before the Twins in April and May and June.

Matt's Dirty Marketing plan for the Twins; cancel culture the Wolves.

Matt when did you last use the Q word on someone? HMMM?


I'll use it when its someone's preferred term and I know its what they want. I don't ever throw it around as an insult, or use it to describe a group of people I don't know personally.

That's not what Ant did.

"Look at these queer ass n****s, man. Look at the world I came to." There's a woman with him laughing in the passenger seat. There was a caption too ... "Dese n****s different."

Here is a pretty good take from a Canis poster:

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This might sound kinda weird, but it's not even the homophobia that bothers me, it's the meanness. Like you can be quietly and inwardly homophobic and, as much as that sucks, not really bother anybody; you can even be vocally homophobic amongst your homophobic friends and still not really bother anybody. This is different.

As many have pointed out, Ant is a very young dude, very possibly raised in a homophobic culture and I can absolutely cut him slack for that (I would hope he'd want to learn about why so many people are upset about this and be open to changing his attitude, but that's up to him) but this was broadcast in a way that just feels mean-spirited to me, which isn't how I wanted to view Ant, as a mean-spirited person who would pick on strangers online for any reason.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 4:42:31 PM   
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 6:44:16 PM   
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Status: online 		I don’t think he’s a mean spirited person. He’s a 21 year old who has a lapse of judgement…and stupidly chose to record it.

This will blow over quickly. Non-issue for me.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 6:51:57 PM   
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 7:04:33 PM   
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Having been 21 once, my hunch is that he thought he was being funny.

Yep. I had attitudes on certain topics as a 21 year old that I am not exactly proud of today. People grow and evolve.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 7:16:29 PM   
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I don’t think he’s a mean spirited person. He’s a 21 year old who has a lapse of judgement…and stupidly chose to record it.

This will blow over quickly. Non-issue for me.


He's going to be fined by the NBA at a minimum.

It'll be interesting to see how Sprite and other endorsements react.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 7:46:39 PM   
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I don’t think he’s a mean spirited person. He’s a 21 year old who has a lapse of judgement…and stupidly chose to record it.

This will blow over quickly. Non-issue for me.


He's going to be fined by the NBA at a minimum.

It'll be interesting to see how Sprite and other endorsements react.


That’s fine. He deserves it. Lesson learned. But then it will be forgotten. Malik Beasley’s antics were 10 times worse. Not even in the same ball park. And that was quickly forgotten.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/13/2022 7:58:04 PM   
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/14/2022 10:44:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I could care less about how Ant feels about LGTBQ. He can like it or not, it's all fine. It's still his right to have his own opinion.
Now why he needed to share it on social media I have no idea. He is young and made a dumb mistake, however you want to look at it.
Those people did nothing to him so no need to express any opinion on them one way or the other. Not any different if he thought they looked straight and made some comment, no need for it. Just let people be who they are if they are not bothering or hurting anything.

I hope he grows and understands that his opinion is not the only opinion to consider. I think he will, he will grow and be more accepting of things. He likely will take a little hit but be perfectly fine. He quickly backtracked and regardless of why he did so quickly he seems to understand his mistake. The people making strong comments and turning against him is silly to me. He still is a great young man, will learn from this, and hopefully learn to be more accepting of anything different than what his personal preferences are.
If you can't give a young man an opportunity to right his wrong then you are likely no better.
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/14/2022 5:45:00 PM   
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/14/2022 5:46:27 PM   
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Having been 21 once, my hunch is that he thought he was being funny.

Yep. I had attitudes on certain topics as a 21 year old that I am not exactly proud of today. People grow and evolve.


It’s not like young males are paragons of enlightenment
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/15/2022 7:37:55 AM   
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Agreed. That would be yours and Phil's side. But, I digress. If we're going to keep going in this direction, take it to the politics thread.


There was only one person who took it to that side and it was DL. Just proves the point even more that he said it in the Timberwolves thread...you CANT STOP TALKING about him.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 9/15/2022 8:11:56 AM   
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Michael Jordan was a not very nice, mean spirited guy. He worked out pretty good for the Bulls.

Different era. No social media then and today everyone carries a video camera.

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