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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/3/2022 10:25:13 AM

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Wolves asst Pablo Prigioni has known D'Angelo Russell going back to their days in Brooklyn.

"I think I have seen D-Lo in so many different moods. This one is the best I’ve ever seen him. Hopefully that impacts on his game, so that means it impacts on our team."
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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/3/2022 10:25:54 AM

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lol I think people are over reading this.
I know what you mean kgdabom.
However with the supposed low picks we would get, and McDaniels' high upside, I am fine giving the picks for him and keeping him.
we are making a run now. Jaden fits this team very well what we need and what he may grow into. I would have been very disappointed had we put him in the trade mix.

Would have loved to keep Beverley really but you have to give up something.
Realistically we gave up very little. Role players and very likely the draft picks of role players at best.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/3/2022 12:58:49 PM

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/3/2022 2:19:37 PM

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

You can't have both. To get Gobert it was picks or McDaniels. You said trade McDaniels.

I like keeping McDaniels. Kessler looks good but the rookie from Memphis looks like he could be something in a couple of years. The new GM is sharp.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/3/2022 2:35:38 PM

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Umm what?

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Karl-Anthony Towns says he wasn't cleared to walk until Saturday in his recovery from the illness he has been dealing with.

Towns said he is going to keep taking the doctors advice, but said the odds of him being back for the regular season "looks good".

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/4/2022 5:30:25 AM 1 votes

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

You can't have both. To get Gobert it was picks or McDaniels. You said trade McDaniels.

I like keeping McDaniels. Kessler looks good but the rookie from Memphis looks like he could be something in a couple of years. The new GM is sharp.

I just stated my preference was trading McDaniels and Keeping all 5 first round picks. I never said it could have happened.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/4/2022 5:31:40 AM

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Umm what?

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Karl-Anthony Towns says he wasn't cleared to walk until Saturday in his recovery from the illness he has been dealing with.

Towns said he is going to keep taking the doctors advice, but said the odds of him being back for the regular season "looks good".

Brian Windhorst said it was a throat infection.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/4/2022 9:47:03 AM

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

You can't have both. To get Gobert it was picks or McDaniels. You said trade McDaniels.

I like keeping McDaniels. Kessler looks good but the rookie from Memphis looks like he could be something in a couple of years. The new GM is sharp.

I just stated my preference was trading McDaniels and Keeping all 5 first round picks. I never said it could have happened.

U R creating your own argument.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/4/2022 12:40:40 PM

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

You can't have both. To get Gobert it was picks or McDaniels. You said trade McDaniels.

I like keeping McDaniels. Kessler looks good but the rookie from Memphis looks like he could be something in a couple of years. The new GM is sharp.

I just stated my preference was trading McDaniels and Keeping all 5 first round picks. I never said it could have happened.

U R creating your own argument.

It wasn't an argument. It was simply me stating my preference. I never gave any indication I believed it could have happened. I was just sharing my thought.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/4/2022 12:42:02 PM

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Here's the report by Windhorst on KAT

Karl-Anthony Towns was hospitalized last week with a throat infection that caused him trouble breathing and forced him to be on bed rest for days.

Towns said his weight was down to 231 pounds (he's listed at 248), but he didn't reveal the nature of the non-COVID-19 illness.

Towns didn't get clearance to walk again until Saturday.

"I'm still recovering. I'm still getting better," Towns told reporters in Minneapolis before the team left on a 10-day preseason road trip. "There was more drastic things to worry about than basketball [during the illness]."

During the offseason, Towns had stem-cell treatments and platelet-rich plasma injections in both knees, his left ankle, left wrist and right finger.

BRIAN WIDHORST/ESPN

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/5/2022 9:48:38 AM

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I saw a picture of Towns. Yes he looks really skinny. I don’t know if he’ll put it all back on soon, but the good news is, he probably doesn’t need to play with as much bulk any more. Given his new role he’ll be expected to me more mobile and not hunkered down banging around the post as much. That’s what Gobert is for.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/5/2022 9:55:01 AM

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I saw most of the game last night. No KAT, no Gobert, no D’lo so we didn’t get much of a preview. They won pretty easily, but the intensity of regular season wasn’t there, everything seemed comfortable and easy. Ant especially seemed able to do what he wanted without really breaking a sweat.

So we really didn’t learn much, except that they can look competent and do the right things vs 75% defense.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/5/2022 11:43:58 AM

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I saw most of the game last night. No KAT, no Gobert, no D’lo so we didn’t get much of a preview. They won pretty easily, but the intensity of regular season wasn’t there, everything seemed comfortable and easy. Ant especially seemed able to do what he wanted without really breaking a sweat.

So we really didn’t learn much, except that they can look competent and do the right things vs 75% defense.

Gobert is going to make life easier for NAZ, KAT, or whomever they have a PF when he is in.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/6/2022 6:14:06 PM

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I saw most of the game last night. No KAT, no Gobert, no D’lo so we didn’t get much of a preview. They won pretty easily, but the intensity of regular season wasn’t there, everything seemed comfortable and easy. Ant especially seemed able to do what he wanted without really breaking a sweat.

So we really didn’t learn much, except that they can look competent and do the right things vs 75% defense.

Not matching the intensity of the NBA regular season is saying something

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/6/2022 6:33:35 PM

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kept all 5 first round picks

Correction: 4 picks and 1 pick swap

It's generally accepted that we gave up two extra picks to keep McDaniels.

The odds of getting a player anywhere near as good as McD with late 1st round picks is really, really small.

My comment was that I would rather have kept all five picks and given up McDaniels than give up all 5 picks and keep him. For 2 picks I'd rather keep him.

Doubt Utah would have trade Gobert straight up for McD

I never said they would. I just stated my preference. Also there were other players in the deal. It would not have been straight up for McDaniels.

You don't get Gobert otherwise; others wanted him also. Kyle Anderson, Curry and they other two draft picks...we will have plenty of depth.

Phil look at everything I've posted. I never said we would get Gobert otherwise. I just stated my preference.

You can't have both. To get Gobert it was picks or McDaniels. You said trade McDaniels.

I like keeping McDaniels. Kessler looks good but the rookie from Memphis looks like he could be something in a couple of years. The new GM is sharp.

I just stated my preference was trading McDaniels and Keeping all 5 first round picks. I never said it could have happened.

U R creating your own argument.

It wasn't an argument. It was simply me stating my preference. I never gave any indication I believed it could have happened. I was just sharing my thought.

Ah, the battle for the best of the worst of the bottom feeders vying for the top draft pick.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/7/2022 7:31:32 AM

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Bill,
I didn't realize the Lakers picked up Damian Jones, Walker, and Bryant. The Lakers should be better than last year with those 3 and the addition of Beverly.

I watched a little of the preseason game last night and they were interviewing next years #1 pick....pretty well spoken.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/7/2022 10:48:01 AM

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Call me crazy but I think Forbes can give you exactly what Beasley does at a fraction of the cost and a bit more consistent.
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We functionally swapped:

Vando for Anderson
Beasley for Forbes
PatBev for Rivers

I think the former might be a tad better overall but again, the cost is so much less and we add Gobert who addresses so many weaknesses.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/7/2022 10:48:19 AM

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You see the elevation in Jaden McDaniels game and you think, Chris Finch really knows what he's doing. You see Bryn Forbes exceeding expectations and think, Tim Connelly really knows what he's doing.
Taurean Prince, Ant, J-Mac. Even Nate Knight. Good times.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/7/2022 10:49:07 AM

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Gobert"s a great defender no doubt (duh). But the way the guards are trapping high pick-and-rolls, the way court coverage soars when Kyle Anderson checks in, and the way the defensive-turnover-into offense template is being reinstated whether Rudy on the floor or not is also aces
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All in all, a high bar for KAT when he returns.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/7/2022 7:53:36 PM

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Call me crazy but I think Forbes can give you exactly what Beasley does at a fraction of the cost and a bit more consistent.
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We functionally swapped:

Vando for Anderson
Beasley for Forbes
PatBev for Rivers

I think the former might be a tad better overall but again, the cost is so much less and we add Gobert who addresses so many weaknesses.

That was my thought when the trade was made. Those three made contributions, but in the end they are very replaceable, and for less money, so you can't get too attached to them, especially to add a piece like Gobert. I think Vando ended up being the hardest one to see leave. I didn't think much of him at first but really grew to appreciate what he gave. I wish him well.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/10/2022 7:40:59 AM

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Call me crazy but I think Forbes can give you exactly what Beasley does at a fraction of the cost and a bit more consistent.
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We functionally swapped:

Vando for Anderson
Beasley for Forbes
PatBev for Rivers

I think the former might be a tad better overall but again, the cost is so much less and we add Gobert who addresses so many weaknesses.

That was my thought when the trade was made. Those three made contributions, but in the end they are very replaceable, and for less money, so you can't get too attached to them, especially to add a piece like Gobert. I think Vando ended up being the hardest one to see leave. I didn't think much of him at first but really grew to appreciate what he gave. I wish him well.

Forbes and Rivers were such good signings. Traded 30 million away for 4 million.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/10/2022 9:42:01 AM

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When the Wolves traded for Gobert, I was initially shocked by sheer volume of assets going out the door. On second, third, fourth and fifth glances, it became clear that the players were very replaceable. Vando is the only one I really miss and they easily replaced him. Beasley and Beverly are the very definition of journeymen.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/10/2022 9:59:27 AM

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I think this is the best bench and roster that we have ever had.

You can see how it is layered so well to retool every couple of years right now.

Gobert 30, Anderson 29, Prince 28, Forbes 29, Rivers 30
Kat 26, DLO 26, McLaughlin 26
Ant 21, McDaniels 22, Naz 23, Nowell 23, Moore 21, Minot 20

The guys in 10 day tryouts will make other rosters. Practice has to be nuts.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/10/2022 11:07:15 AM

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I think this is the best bench and roster that we have ever had.

You can see how it is layered so well to retool every couple of years right now.

Gobert 30, Anderson 29, Prince 28, Forbes 29, Rivers 30
Kat 26, DLO 26, McLaughlin 26
Ant 21, McDaniels 22, Naz 23, Nowell 23, Moore 21, Minot 20

The guys in 10 day tryouts will make other rosters. Practice has to be nuts.

10 Day contracts don't start until January. The guys who don't make our final roster will be on our GLeague team.

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RE: Wolves 2022 Off Season and Draft - 10/10/2022 11:14:51 AM

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Training Camp/Exhibit 10/Exhibit 9

P.J. Dozier PG $2,133,278 - $1,836,090 - - - Exhibit-10
CJ Elleby SF $1,836,090 - $1,836,090 - - - Exhibit-10
Luka Garza C $1,637,966 - $1,637,966 - - - Exhibit-10

I think these 3 players will make NBA rosters. Dozier is coming off of an injury but if they agree to go to the G League I think they will be sniped.

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