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IF you hired a poor DC, how long do you give him before firing him ?
Kicking 56 yard FG when you have a good punter. Short field made two of Detroit TDS.
Defense will be a work in progress but our best safety and cb were both out.
I don’t remember how many games it has been since we pulled out a game we shouldn’t have won. It has been the other way with Zimmer.
Just who the hell is our best CB !!!
Short field made their TDs!!!
And finally, Detroit lat last year was the last time … !!!
oh never mind.
ridiculous.
Any game observations?
Eff you, I responded to a post. burble your own meaningless observations if you want something that appeals to you.
 I'll take that as a NO.
You'd have to read between the lines to get my meaning.
I'm not going to spell it out for you.
How 'bout me? Can you spell it out for me?
IMO we have no idea how good or bad Booth is since he has not played. Its asinine to use it as an excuse for our defense.
IMO starting from their 25 or 35 or 45 is not the reason for DET scoring. Its having a mediocre defense at best. Also IMO a short field would mean less than 50 yards. At the very least, not punting / missing FGs is a different argument … regardless, it made it easier - it does not equate to the other team scoring. Unless your defense is really bad.
IMO beating DET last year as time expired (after DET scored with 37 sec) is exactly when that happened under Zimmer. Last year!
If a punter pins them inside their 10 or even 20. Their odds of scoring are the same as starting from their 46?
Did I say or suggest that? No.
Kicking it, going for it or punting it all have their arguments in long field goal situations. Going for three or possibly giving them better field position is only one consideration.
Choosing to kick the field goal, missing it and giving the ball to DET on our side of the field does not 'make' (your word) or generate or produce or spawn TDs for the other team. It makes it easier for them, yes.
So Exclamations mean?
Starting from own 45 improves it one series of downs so it went from around 35.7% chance of scoring a TD instead of 25% at the 28 or 18% at the 11 yard line.
Detroit only scored 3 TDs; two of them were on shorter fields.
On average, you score about 1.6 pts/56 yard FG attempt. That's with LOS the opponents 38, so on 1/2 of the attempts you get 3 points, the other half the opponent gets the ball at their own 46. With only 16 yards needed to attempt their own 56 yd fg. Going for it on 4th down is an option depending on the yardage needed, but you also don't get the 8 yard LOS penalty. Maybe an average of 10 yards worse starting LOS on a failed 4th down vs failed figgie. A punt from the 38 probably averages with the opponents starting LOS inside the 15. I'm not sure that even the analytics would say that 1.6 points is worth the opponents starting their possession near midfield vs starting deep in their own end.
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