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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/28/2023 8:53:21 PM

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He had a poor year playing on a bad Bucky team, but before that many thought he was a top 10 type of player according to the guys on ESPN.

I like that he is a center. I like that he is huge. I love that he is a St. Paul kid. I just feel like there were much better players on the board.

If you believe the experts it was a bad pick. However, he has the size we were asking for. 30th ranked out of North American Skaters.

21. Minnesota Wild: Charlie Stramel, C
Team: Wisconsin (BIG10) | Rank: NAS30
DOB: 10/15/04 | Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 212 | Shot: R
2022-23 stats: GP: 33 | G: 5 | A: 7 | P: 12
How he fits: The first knock on Stramel is that he's coming off a difficult freshman season at the University of Wisconsin (he tallied just five goals and 12 points in 33 games). However, there is a good deal of upside here. He's a big center (6-foot-3, 212 points) with enough grit to his game that he can be a challenge to contain, especially under pressure. At this best, Stramel excels in tight on a goaltender and can pull off the little plays that add up to pay big dividends on the scoresheet. Plus he can elevate linemates and shows signs of being a consistent playmaker. If Stramel was underwhelming as a college newcomer, it only proves there's room for him to continue growing -- and that's what Wild GM Bill Guerin is banking on. -- Shilton

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/28/2023 8:58:57 PM

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He had a poor year playing on a bad Bucky team, but before that many thought he was a top 10 type of player according to the guys on ESPN.

I like that he is a center. I like that he is huge. I love that he is a St. Paul kid. I just feel like there were much better players on the board.

Yeah, I was expecting a big center, but he wasn't the one I expected that's for sure.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 12:31:44 AM

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Bad pick...Calum Ritchie should have been the choice.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 8:03:01 AM

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Bad pick...Calum Ritchie should have been the choice.

Calum would have been a good pick also; they must be banking on his play with the U18 team.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 8:34:28 AM

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Bad pick...Calum Ritchie should have been the choice.

Calum would have been a good pick also; they must be banking on his play with the U18 team.

Ritchie was the name I was hoping to hear. Also a big center, but with great vision and an elite playmaker. I know Judd Brackett was real high on Eduard Sale, but the Kracken poached him right before the Wild picked.

My big issue with Stramel is that he moved up a level and couln't score. He doesn't seem like the kind of shooter who can pick a spot or set up the goalie. His scoring seems to consist of having a quick release and getting deflections or trying to jam the puck through the goalie. I don't want to project too much because there is a lot we don't know about the kid, but right now I see Kyle Brodziack.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 8:49:20 AM

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Bad pick...Calum Ritchie should have been the choice.

Calum would have been a good pick also; they must be banking on his play with the U18 team.

Ritchie was the name I was hoping to hear. Also a big center, but with great vision and an elite playmaker. I know Judd Brackett was real high on Eduard Sale, but the Kracken poached him right before the Wild picked.

My big issue with Stramel is that he moved up a level and couln't score. He doesn't seem like the kind of shooter who can pick a spot or set up the goalie. His scoring seems to consist of having a quick release and getting deflections or trying to jam the puck through the goalie. I don't want to project too much because there is a lot we don't know about the kid, but right now I see Kyle Brodziack.

I do hope it isn't because Calum is lanky and 30 pounds lighter; many are upset we didn't grab Perreault who broke Matthews scoring record. 5'11 forward who can score.

Many believe we could have picked Stramel in the 2nd.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 8:54:08 AM

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Bad pick...Calum Ritchie should have been the choice.

Calum would have been a good pick also; they must be banking on his play with the U18 team.

Ritchie was the name I was hoping to hear. Also a big center, but with great vision and an elite playmaker. I know Judd Brackett was real high on Eduard Sale, but the Kracken poached him right before the Wild picked.

My big issue with Stramel is that he moved up a level and couln't score. He doesn't seem like the kind of shooter who can pick a spot or set up the goalie. His scoring seems to consist of having a quick release and getting deflections or trying to jam the puck through the goalie. I don't want to project too much because there is a lot we don't know about the kid, but right now I see Kyle Brodziack.

I do hope it isn't because Calum is lanky and 30 pounds lighter; many are upset we didn't grab Perreault who broke Matthews scoring record. 5'11 forward who can score.

Many believe we could have picked Stramel in the 2nd.

The scouting consensus on Stramel had him in the mid 40's for skaters. At the very least, the Wild should have been able to trade back and get Stramel. Not happy. Then again, a few years ago, the hockey world was praising the Wild for getting a steal when they drafted Rossi at #9, so what do any of us know. At least Stramel isn't a Smurf.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 11:18:31 AM

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I won't pretend to be a great NHL draft mind and I know zero about who else was available when the Wild picked, so I won't say whether it was a good pick from that specific perspective.

But in general, it's not a bad use of a later first round pick to go with a guy who was more highly projected a year ago then had a slip his first year moving up a level, making him still available later in the draft. That's how you potentially find diamonds in the rough. You hope it was just a minor one year setback...it happens...and he'll continue to develop. Wild say he tested very well so should have the tools to do it.

Plus he's a Guerin type player. Big center not afraid to muck it up and make line mates better.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 11:27:49 AM

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Taking someone who's stock has dropped like Stramel's did is kind of a hallmark of a Brackett draft. Carson Lambos is an example of that strategy. Lambos is the Wild's top defensive prospect now.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 12:46:16 PM

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Wild loading up on Centers so far in this year's draft:

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- With its first-round pick (No. 21 overall) in the 2023 NHL Draft, the Wild selected Charlie Stramel from the University of Wisconsin of the Big Ten.

Here is a look at Stramel's stats:

Height: 6-3

Weight: 215 pounds

Shoots: Right

Hometown: Rosemount, Minnesota

2022-23 team: University of Wisconsin (Big-10)

NHL Central Scouting rank: 30th among North American skaters

Judd Brackett Scouting Report: "Charlie is a heavy, strong-skating, physical two-way center."

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- With its second-round pick (No. 53 overall) in the 2023 NHL Draft, the Wild selected center Rasmus Kumpulainen from Peliitat Heinola of the Mestis Hockey League.

Here is a look at Kumpulainen's stats:

Height: 6-0

Weight: 191 pounds

Shoots: Left

Hometown: Lahti, Finland

2022-23 team: Peliitat Heinola (Mestis)

NHL Central Scouting rank: 22nd among European skaters

Judd Brackett Scouting Report: "Rasmus is a big, two-way, possession center with excellent puck protection skill."

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- With its second-round pick (No. 64 overall) in the 2023 NHL Draft, the Wild selected center Riley Heidt from Prince George of the Western Hockey League.

Here is a look at Heidt's stats:

Height: 5-10

Weight: 178 pounds

Shoots: Left

Hometown:Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

2022-23 team: Prince George Cougars (WHL)

NHL Central Scouting rank: 21st among North American skaters

Judd Brackett Scouting Report: "Riley is a slick, play-making center with elite vision and hands."

We need Rossi to start looking like a #9 pick this year and at least one of these guys to pan out before we have any chance of actually making it past the 1st round any time soon.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 12:54:18 PM

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A quick glance at our 2nd round picks we took 2 Centers. Rasmus Kumpulainen consensus about 90th ranked prospect and Riley Heidt ranked in the 20s, thus higher than both guys drafted before him. Time will tell.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 1:04:09 PM

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The 2023 draft is supposed to be loaded at center. Looks like the Wild want to take full advantage.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 6/29/2023 2:16:02 PM

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I see we had no 3rd or 4th round pick. UMD D Aaron Pionk in the 5th. Central scouting liked him.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 3:39:47 PM

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Dumba is officially a free agent!

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 4:14:07 PM

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Dumba is officially a free agent!

But now who's going to be the sites local whipping boy?

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 5:11:07 PM

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Vinni Letteri

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 6:01:56 PM

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Vinni Letteri

I can see Vinni and Sammy crossing each other's paths back and forth from Iowa as they share one open spot.....

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 7:33:14 PM

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Dumba is officially a free agent!

But now who's going to be the sites local whipping boy?

Fleury

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 7:46:14 PM

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What an absolute “blah” signing

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 8:49:12 PM

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With their cap room they're lucky they can afford blah.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/1/2023 8:53:35 PM

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On the bright side we didn't waste valuable cap space on Reaves. Watching the entire Dallas team mock him was enough for me. I'm afraid these next couple of years are going to be tough unless some of the young guys can grow up fast..... Hello Rossi....paging Marco Rossi.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/2/2023 7:32:21 AM

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On the bright side we didn't waste valuable cap space on Reaves. Watching the entire Dallas team mock him was enough for me. I'm afraid these next couple of years are going to be tough unless some of the young guys can grow up fast..... Hello Rossi....paging Marco Rossi.

I have a lot of hope for Rossi,Walker, and Addison.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/2/2023 7:59:59 AM

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On the bright side we didn't waste valuable cap space on Reaves. Watching the entire Dallas team mock him was enough for me. I'm afraid these next couple of years are going to be tough unless some of the young guys can grow up fast..... Hello Rossi....paging Marco Rossi.

I have a lot of hope for Rossi,Walker, and Addison.

I have anxiety over Rossi. At 21 there is still time, but his scoring pace in the AHL wasn't much better last year than it was the year before. He didn't exactly dominate. We were told at the time he was drafted that the Wild got a top 5 talent at #9. So far we haven't seen it. The last comment I read from Billy Boy sounded like he was hedging his bets. "We want him to make the team, but..."

Walker? I basically see another Jordan Schroeder. Another speedy undersized kid, who will sometimes impress with his hustle and hockey sense, but will bounce between the NHL and AHL for a couple of years before disappearing.

Addison was unfairly singled out when the defense had bad games last year. Dumbo would make more egregious mistakes and Billy/Evason never said a word. That said, there are things Addy needs to clean up defensively. If he can do that his offensive game should have him skating in the top 4 defensemen. If not,...

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/2/2023 8:43:04 AM

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Rossi has a Sam Steel 2.0 look to me. An undersized 1st round pick that just seems to be missing the "it" factor to make it at this level. Shows flashes, but not consistent enough to warrant a top 6 spot on your roster, yet not suited for a bottom 6 role.
I agree on your assessment of Walker, and hope Addison can get it together this year. He looks to have all the tools to be a NHL player despite his lack of size....he just needs to bring it every shift.

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RE: Wild 2022/2023 Season - 7/2/2023 8:50:29 AM

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I wouldn't mind seeing the Wild missing out on the playoffs these next couple of "cap hell" years just to get some top young talent in the draft. We have plenty of middle to bottom 6 talent, but drafting in the 20's every year doesn't bring in much high end talent that it takes to make a cup run.
It actually sounds more like Guerin's plan is to buy his top talent in free agency once the cap hell is over and have a solid base in place with the current talent.....time will tell.

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