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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 10:41:20 AM   
Todd M

 

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Package JJ and some first round picks for Caleb Williams, that might work.


Not might…it’s the dream.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 12:10:20 PM   
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Package JJ and some first round picks for Caleb Williams, that might work.


Not might…it’s the dream.

And hope we don't end up with the next Baker Mayfield?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 12:42:44 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 1:06:37 PM   
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No, hope we end up with the next Mahomes.

Those "hopes" are not mutually exclusive.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:18:58 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:23:57 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:28:44 PM   
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I hate the 3 man rush with a passion. If I owned a team I would shy away from anybody that likes it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:30:24 PM   
Jeff Allen

 

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Status: offline 		Lol...they just lost their best chance of winning a game this year. Too funny.

0-3 here we come, but Cousins is good enough to get us to at least 7-10 or 8-9 which means we are not picking in the Top 5 next year. I've have been saying this the whole offseason. Wasted season coming, but not a train wreck wasted season that will allow us to rebuild.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:34:11 PM   
David Levine


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And the yards we got were all Mattison making something out of nothing.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:38:48 PM   
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The 3 man rush with 3 not great rushers is not a recipe for defensive success.


That's one of the issues when you use a 3-4 or a 3-3 base defense. You need two big ends who can play the run and pass equally well, and a BIG nose in the middle. We don't have any of those things. What we do have is a couple of active, small linebackers, but you can't build a defense around that. I guess I'm trying to say is we have a lot of problems right now.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:40:51 PM   
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Felt very similar to last year without the good bounces or self-implosion by our opponent in the second half.

Defense showed better than last year so there's that. For what its worth.

Mayfield deserves a little credit for having a little grit, in spite of being overall mediocre.

Not a lot to glean from a first game.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 9/10/2023 3:42:46 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:45:41 PM   
David Levine


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I’d almost rather see Hall in there…
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:47:59 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:52:51 PM   
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So much for smart guys that give us a chance lol.

Felt very similar to last year without the good bounces or self-implosion by our opponent in the second half.

Defense showed better than last year so there's that. For what its worth.

Mayfield deserves a little credit for having a little grit, in spite of being overall mediocre.

Not a lot to glean from a first game.


Still think we will be battling the Lions for the division?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:54:10 PM   
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Thursday is going to be ugly.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:57:19 PM   
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Eagles are rolling.

Thursday is going to be ugly.


It could be really bad! They are giving the pats a curbstomping right now.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 3:58:20 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:04:29 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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- Running game hinges on the heroics of Mattison, and at this rate his career will be over after his contract.
- It did not appear there was an iota of competitive spirit with Cousins outside of his meltdown after the Osborn takeaway.
- JJ with some great stats, let's hide the disappearing in the second half with 12 yards.
- The rookies made some good plays!
- Flores seems like a my-way-or-the-highway type, and I'm not sure how much he wants to look in the mirror.
- The D did not show anything except that they could not stop Baker Mayfield when it counted, but they have basically been thrown together.
- Offense was at home with a quiet crowd on a nice day... hard to imagine just how opposite things will be in four days.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:06:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

So much for smart guys that give us a chance lol.

Felt very similar to last year without the good bounces or self-implosion by our opponent in the second half.

Defense showed better than last year so there's that. For what its worth.

Mayfield deserves a little credit for having a little grit, in spite of being overall mediocre.

Not a lot to glean from a first game.


Still think we will be battling the Lions for the division?

Looks like 1-4 is a very real possibility. At that point I'm all for playing the young guys everywhere to prepare them for next year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:25:37 PM   
Todd M

 

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Hope it turns out different than I feel it’s going to.

Hope I care again. It happens. I was a huge Tigers fan and now couldn’t name one player.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:26:00 PM   
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Lol...they just lost their best chance of winning a game this year. Too funny.

0-3 here we come, but Cousins is good enough to get us to at least 7-10 or 8-9 which means we are not picking in the Top 5 next year. I've have been saying this the whole offseason. Wasted season coming, but not a train wreck wasted season that will allow us to rebuild.

We'll be fortunate to be 1-4.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:27:44 PM   
bstinger


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Eagles are rolling.

Thursday is going to be ugly.

41-10 to much?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:33:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

So much for smart guys that give us a chance lol.

Felt very similar to last year without the good bounces or self-implosion by our opponent in the second half.

Defense showed better than last year so there's that. For what its worth.

Mayfield deserves a little credit for having a little grit, in spite of being overall mediocre.

Not a lot to glean from a first game.


Still think we will be battling the Lions for the division?

Looks like 1-4 is a very real possibility. At that point I'm all for playing the young guys everywhere to prepare them for next year.

1-4 would be opptimistic at this point. The bucs were our early season cupcake on paper. Philly and KC are almost automatic losses. SD and CAR will be even money at best.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:42:51 PM   
marty


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Status: offline 		The defense played well for 3 quarters, then tired in the 4th.

Last year's defense was fresh for the 4th quarter, after laying down for 3 quarters.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/10/2023 4:44:03 PM   
marty


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