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Hi Talkvikes crew. Thought I'd chime in some this year. Hope that's okay! Yes, you could end up with a Mahomes or a Mayfield. Does that mean you don't draft a QB high in the first round? Of course not. The question seems to be should the team trade JJ to acquire picks and take a shot at one of the top QB's next draft? JJ is the most gifted receiver in the NFL, no question. He'll cost a fortune to sign to his next contract. We've had Moss, Carter, Diggs and now Jefferson to name a few of the standout receivers the team has had. Zero Super Bowl appearances with any of them. Their fault? No, of course not.
I'd trade JJ at the end of the season IF I determined that the overall talent on the roster is not capable of making it to the Super Bowl. Having the best receiver in the NFL doesn't matter if the team overall isn't good enough to make it to the Super Bowl. Bottom line...would you rather have the best receiver in football or a true star at QB? Giving up JJ would be a very hard decision. Obviously, you could screw up the draft and get another Ponder, but you could also get the next great QB.
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We lost ONE game and now the calls to trade JJ are surfacing.
He is one of the top 5 players in the NFL. You don't trade talent like that unless you get a king's ransom. You don't actively shop them either. You build around them. He is ESTABLISHED talent. He has ESTABLISHED himself as one of the best in the game. You don't trade them for the crapshoot that a draftpick can be.
JJ is here at least the next few years. This year. Next year on 5th year option and then we can franchise him two more years after that. Why on Earth would anybody actively shop him unless he is totally disgruntled, which he isn't?
In fairness the question of trading JJ for multiple #1's has been around for a while. The idea is give Hou/AZ (or whomever) multiple 1's to get the #1 overall and taking William's. I'm not advocating it but I see the logic.
I would rather we find another way to secure a top pick, and have a superstud like JJ HERE for them to throw to and gain confidence earlier in their career.
I agree that I'd rather find another way, but the problem is there are not a lot of alternatives. A terrible record this year would allow the team to draft in the top 5. This season would suck but at least we'd have the draft to look forward to. That's one possible alternative. Re-sign Cousins...that's another way, but he's failed to get to the Super Bowl so that doesn't seem like a good move. Bring in a free agent...have to pay him which reduces the ability to sign other top players, including JJ. Give up multiple No. 1 picks in future years to move up. Well, that's an option but this team lacks the talent/depth to go without future 1st round picks. Trade a top player to acquire multiple No. 1 picks into the future...that's the "JJ Option". There may be other options, but one thing I"m certain about and that is it's WAY PAST TIME for drafting a true star at the position.
Agree in that there are next to no legit ways to move up high in the draft. As you said, we need our future picks. The only talent that moves the needle is JJ and Darrisaw. Although I'm a bit concerned about Darrisaw's concussions, I'd keep him over JJ. We are going to need cap as well to help with trying to infuse talent on this roster. JJ at $30-35 million per seems out of whack since we are not contending.
I can see us picking in the 12-20 range, and there could be five QB options. We might not have to give up that much to move up to get a QB.
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