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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

**** you KOC.

Flores blew the last drive.

Yep. 2:29 left, no timeouts.

Moore for 16. Fields with a couple of scrambles. A 36 yarder. 12 men on the field.

10 plays, 66 yards. FG. Game over.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Team ain't worth watching as long as pansy boy is at the helm. So ridiculous.

Agree. He might be a people person but he’s a terrible head coach.

I've never seen worse coaching for our team. I wasn't watching the Steckel year. I think I'd take Frazier.

The offense had 4 TOS. That isn’t coaching. Turtle late yes: TOS no.

No?? That's not on coaching? Having a turnover problem all season? Hmmm

They haven’t had a TO problem during their winning streak. Same qb. If you can’t see that Dobbs decision making was worse than Fileds tonight. Ugggh

Dobbs was horrible but to play for a 50 plus FG with the game on the line is idiotic. Especially with Joseph.

Not sure he'll get called out for it because most National Writers quit watching at halftime.

TBH not sure if that was what he was doing. Chicago was roughing up our little WR the whole game. We just don’t have any big WR when needed to seal a game with a bully over the middle catch. Even with JJ healthy and last year Thielen we can be bullied by cbs.

That is for sure what he was doing. You don't throw a bubble screen into a mosh pit when you want to get 10 yards.

Playing to lose. Mission Accomplished.

Brandon Staley smiled watching the end of this game. Misery loves company.

I like this post. Staley tried his hardest against us to prove he's the worse coach in the world. He is, but we still couldn't win.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

What a pathetic game.

Chicago set some team record for most passes at or behind the LOS. They were TERRIBLE. Yet we were worse!

But whoo hoo, watch out baby... we are still right there in the mix for the playoffs

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

What a pathetic game.

Chicago set some team record for most passes at or behind the LOS. They were TERRIBLE. Yet we were worse!

But whoo hoo, watch out baby... we are still right there in the mix for the playoffs

They may have set a league record. I'm not getting the Flores love. How hard is it to defend that offense? They were converting third downs on us like a Brady was their QB.

Before anybody blasts me for saying the defense is overrated, our offense also sucked, they accumulated 24 total yards in the first 28 minutes of the game. We're not good at a lot of football stuff.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

Exhibit #1 of fans lapping it up.

We could be? LMAO! God almighty. WE COULD BE!

Vikings fans, the shoulda, woulda, couldas.

Wow.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

What a pathetic game.

Chicago set some team record for most passes at or behind the LOS. They were TERRIBLE. Yet we were worse!

But whoo hoo, watch out baby... we are still right there in the mix for the playoffs

They may have set a league record. I'm not getting the Flores love. How hard is it to defend that offense? They were converting third downs on us like a Brady was their QB.

Before anybody blasts me for saying the defense is overrated, our offense also sucked, they accumulated 24 total yards in the first 28 minutes of the game. We're not good at a lot of football stuff.

Eberflus and Fields made this a close game.

Hopefully for our sake their GM is sold on them.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

What a pathetic game.

Chicago set some team record for most passes at or behind the LOS. They were TERRIBLE. Yet we were worse!

But whoo hoo, watch out baby... we are still right there in the mix for the playoffs

They may have set a league record. I'm not getting the Flores love. How hard is it to defend that offense? They were converting third downs on us like a Brady was their QB.

Before anybody blasts me for saying the defense is overrated, our offense also sucked, they accumulated 24 total yards in the first 28 minutes of the game. We're not good at a lot of football stuff.

Eberflus and Fields made this a close game.

Hopefully for our sake their GM is sold on them.

That's an interesting thing for the Bears moving forward. Can they be so stubborn not to draft a QB with one of their possibly two top five selections?

They should trade Fields when/if he's trending upward. Or, convert him to a Taysom Hill type of role. I think his extreme (raw) athleticism is difficult to let go of.

Also, I do wonder if another coach could get the best out of him. That's not going to happen in Chicago.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

Exhibit #1 of fans lapping it up.

We could be? LMAO! God almighty. WE COULD BE!

Vikings fans, the shoulda, woulda, couldas.

Wow.

I'm all ears on your plan. Make up some signs and protest TCO Headquarters.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

We are doing it with a youth movement.

It? Doing what? Going 6-6? So what.

What facet of the game can you point to and say we are solid there week in and week out?


17th oldest "youth movement": https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2023-edition/

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

Exhibit #1 of fans lapping it up.

We could be? LMAO! God almighty. WE COULD BE!

Vikings fans, the shoulda, woulda, couldas.

Wow.

I'm all ears on your plan. Make up some signs and protest TCO Headquarters.

My plan certainly isn't based on coulda, woulda...

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

We are doing it with a youth movement.

It? Doing what? Going 6-6? So what.

What facet of the game can you point to and say we are solid there week in and week out?


17th oldest "youth movement": https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2023-edition/

Cousins, Smith and about 4-5 older vets will be gone next year.

Secondary is light years ahead of 2022. Not saying much but Mettulus, Blackmon, Evans and Bynum look like keepers. Pace looks like a steal. WRs and TEs are above average. OLine was playing at a high level until last 2 games.

I guess what I am saying is if we hit it big with a rookie QB we are closer to Houston than Carolina. And trending up. This is without completely tanking.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

That game should have been bad for the NFL. Instead, it just trucks right along.

12 teams per conference. Three division winners and one wild card. The rest of the shit teams pack their bags.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

We COULD BE 10-2 or even 11-1 if we just didn't turn the ball over. Trouble is, we turn the ball over.

Balls? Brains? Noc clocking it? Curling up in a ball during two minute drills. Dropping passes that should be caught.

Another poster already pointed out SHOULDA COULDA.

They are right.

Here is reality. No matter what could be, we ARE 6-6 with a journeyman QB who coughed up the ball 4 times yesterday. Cousins sucks, but he rarely threw the ball to the other team. I don't have an answer, but the writing is on the wall. We can't help ourselves, we turn it over and that will kill us. It is a sign of the mediocrity of the NFC that we are still holding a playoff spot despite our current sucktitude. We make the playoffs now, we likely exit early. Why? because we turn the ball over, a lot. and Coulda Woulda, Shoulda aint going to change that.

So I advocate for giving Hall the ball the rest of the way, see what we've got and start planning the offseason.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

That game should have been bad for the NFL. Instead, it just trucks right along.

12 teams per conference. Three division winners and one wild card. The rest of the shit teams pack their bags.

So, New England has to dissolve their franchise. Good plan.

But, if you really want to make it just the best 4 in each conference get to playoffs, eliminate divisions. Top 4 teams are in playoffs.

Each team has play every team in their conference (15 games) and then 2 non conference games.

You would get some really bad football by Week 11 or 12 when 16 teams are eliminated from the playoff race.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

We COULD BE 10-2 or even 11-1 if we just didn't turn the ball over. Trouble is, we turn the ball over.

Balls? Brains? Noc clocking it? Curling up in a ball during two minute drills. Dropping passes that should be caught.

Another poster already pointed out SHOULDA COULDA.

They are right.

Here is reality. No matter what could be, we ARE 6-6 with a journeyman QB who coughed up the ball 4 times yesterday. Cousins sucks, but he rarely threw the ball to the other team. I don't have an answer, but the writing is on the wall. We can't help ourselves, we turn it over and that will kill us. It is a sign of the mediocrity of the NFC that we are still holding a playoff spot despite our current sucktitude. We make the playoffs now, we likely exit early. Why? because we turn the ball over, a lot. and Coulda Woulda, Shoulda aint going to change that.

So I advocate for giving Hall the ball the rest of the way, see what we've got and start planning the offseason.

At this point you are right. Go with Hall.

See what we have in Asamoah instead of Barr. Even give Cine and Booth a chance. See what McBride can do.

We won't because we are technically in the playoffs and have JJ supposedly coming back.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Is anyone in the Minnesota media going to criticize KOC?

At most some veiled, mild mention of something.

Fans lap it up blabbing about the playoffs... the media is nice and cozy. They all contribute to this mediocrity.

Why not get excited about making the playoffs? We could be 8-4 with a little more balls at the end of games.

And we are doing it while going with a youth movement. Yeah, 2022 draft hurt us pretty good but still a decent nucleus of young players.

We COULD BE 10-2 or even 11-1 if we just didn't turn the ball over. Trouble is, we turn the ball over.

Balls? Brains? Noc clocking it? Curling up in a ball during two minute drills. Dropping passes that should be caught.

Another poster already pointed out SHOULDA COULDA.

They are right.

Here is reality. No matter what could be, we ARE 6-6 with a journeyman QB who coughed up the ball 4 times yesterday. Cousins sucks, but he rarely threw the ball to the other team. I don't have an answer, but the writing is on the wall. We can't help ourselves, we turn it over and that will kill us. It is a sign of the mediocrity of the NFC that we are still holding a playoff spot despite our current sucktitude. We make the playoffs now, we likely exit early. Why? because we turn the ball over, a lot. and Coulda Woulda, Shoulda aint going to change that.

So I advocate for giving Hall the ball the rest of the way, see what we've got and start planning the offseason.

At this point you are right. Go with Hall.

See what we have in Asamoah instead of Barr. Even give Cine and Booth a chance. See what McBride can do.

We won't because we are technically in the playoffs and have JJ supposedly coming back.

That's the problem with mediocrity. Most every team is 'in the hunt' until December. Then in the offseason training camp and practices have been cut way back. Vanilla preseason games are a joke. So unless a team bites the bullet, they don't know what they have on the roster.