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ORIGINAL: marty

Tom

After making trades, with picks like Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth Jr., the other GMs in the division aren't too afraid of making deals with Kwesi.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: marty

Tom

After making trades, with picks like Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth Jr., the other GMs in the division aren't too afraid of making deals with Kwesi.

You are just arguing to argue.

You don't enter into competition by creating opportunities for your opponents. Period.

Football is a QB driven sport. The Vikings need a QB, the world knows this. Improving their chances of landing their QB target is helping them reach a goal. Period.

What teams do with their opportunities is a separate matter.

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ORIGINAL: marty

The trade for Booth Jr. was a trade UP.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: marty

Tom

After making trades, with picks like Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth Jr., the other GMs in the division aren't too afraid of making deals with Kwesi.

You are just arguing to argue.

You don't enter into competition by creating opportunities for your opponents. Period.

Football is a QB driven sport. The Vikings need a QB, the world knows this. Improving their chances of landing their QB target is helping them reach a goal. Period.

What teams do with their opportunities is a separate matter.

I agree, Tom

Allowing Kwesi to get fleeced for a trade down is a lot different than getting fleeced for a trade up for the QB they want, even if they don't believe the QB we want is going to be good...

they won't take the chance the QB actually turns out

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Who cares what trades go on after the first. I'm not seven sure trades with rivals after the first 15-20 matter ... depends on the draft and players we're talking about.

A 'possible' franchise QB in the top ten picks is a different animal.

Completely.

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ORIGINAL: marty

What you do in the past, has an effect on how others perceived you in the future.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Who cares what trades go on after the first. I'm not seven sure trades with rivals after the first 15-20 matter ... depends on the draft and players we're talking about.

A 'possible' franchise QB in the top ten picks is a different animal.

Completely.

Two picks before our pick. The Jets are taking Bowers or an O Line so the Bears pick only matters if they trade it to somebody else. If they do that we take Rome Odunze to F them over.

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ORIGINAL: marty

The trade for Booth Jr. was a trade UP.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Who cares what trades go on after the first. I'm not seven sure trades with rivals after the first 15-20 matter ... depends on the draft and players we're talking about.

A 'possible' franchise QB in the top ten picks is a different animal.

Completely.

Two picks before our pick. The Jets are taking Bowers or an O Line so the Bears pick only matters if they trade it to somebody else. If they do that we take Rome Odunze to F them over.

We stick to our plan.

We absolutely do NOT borrow Chi's draft plan.

Another one driving their train off the rails.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Usually I hate these kind of draft articles ... 'espn gathered the latest intel from around the league,' 'sources tell us,' 'the team is leaning towards,' 'the team's preference is,' etcetcetcetcetcetc

ESPN draft analyst Matt Miller (IMO translated as ESPN paid draft fan Matt Miller) says ...

"It’s no secret the Vikings need a quarterback and are expected to be aggressive in adding one at the draft, but the front office and O’Connell — a former quarterback himself — did not attend pro day workouts of the top quarterbacks. Instead, the Vikings are trying something different. “We want to see them work out in a more intimate setting,” is how a source with the team put it. “Get them a little uncomfortable running our workout vs. theirs.”

The Vikings have scheduled private workouts with five of the top six QBs (everyone except Caleb Williams) and will use those in-person, one-on-one evaluations with more weight than the traditional pro day circuit. This is the first time I can recall a team intentionally avoiding the pro day noise in lieu of in-person scouting, but I like it."

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/4/12/24128451/espn-gives-minnesota-vikings-50-50-chance-trading-up-quarterback-2024-nfl-draft

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I'm all for trying something new especially in Kwesi's case.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: marty

Tom

After making trades, with picks like Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth Jr., the other GMs in the division aren't too afraid of making deals with Kwesi.

You are just arguing to argue.

You don't enter into competition by creating opportunities for your opponents. Period.

Football is a QB driven sport. The Vikings need a QB, the world knows this. Improving their chances of landing their QB target is helping them reach a goal. Period.

What teams do with their opportunities is a separate matter.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Trading with a division foe was thought of as a crazy idea, until Kwesi did it twice.

Suggesting others perception of Kwesi might be influenced by what he did in the past, is not a Kwesi idea.

It was unusual for the Redskins to use both a 1st round pick, and a 4th round pick the same year on a QB, but it wasn't such a bad idea, and would have been considered a GREAT idea if one of them had gone on to win a SB.

The reason why I mentioned the possibility of the Vikings drafting 2 in the 1st round this year is:

1) The cost of trading up might be way too much
2) There are arguably 6 potential franchise QBs this year (7 if you like Rattler - I don't like the name)
3) The Vikings might be in a great position (having 2 1sts) and are the only team in that position, where it is of great need, and they could take numbers 4 and 5, or 5 and 6.
4) They could always trade the 2nd one for a decent amount, if he is still highly regarded, either during the next season, or during the next off-season.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Trading with a division foe was thought of as a crazy idea, until Kwesi did it twice.

Suggesting others perception of Kwesi might be influenced by what he did in the past, is not a Kwesi idea.

It was unusual for the Redskins to use both a 1st round pick, and a 4th round pick the same year on a QB, but it wasn't such a bad idea, and would have been considered a GREAT idea if one of them had gone on to win a SB.

The reason why I mentioned the possibility of the Vikings drafting 2 in the 1st round this year is:

1) The cost of trading up might be way too much
2) There are arguably 6 potential franchise QBs this year (7 if you like Rattler - I don't like the name)
3) The Vikings might be in a great position (having 2 1sts) and are the only team in that position, where it is of great need, and they could take numbers 4 and 5, or 5 and 6.
4) They could always trade the 2nd one for a decent amount, if he is still highly regarded, either during the next season, or during the next off-season.

It's a strange idea, but it could work out. I'd be super interested in seeing a QB battle between Darnold, Penix and Nix. Maybe we keep Penix and Nix and trade Darnold.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Who cares what trades go on after the first. I'm not seven sure trades with rivals after the first 15-20 matter ... depends on the draft and players we're talking about.

A 'possible' franchise QB in the top ten picks is a different animal.

Completely.

Two picks before our pick. The Jets are taking Bowers or an O Line so the Bears pick only matters if they trade it to somebody else. If they do that we take Rome Odunze to F them over.

We stick to our plan.

We absolutely do NOT borrow Chi's draft plan.

Another one driving their train off the rails.

It was satire. I don't believe the Bears give a rat's ass about who we pick nor we about them. They will make the best deal for themselves which may be no deal at all.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/could-a-falcons-vikings-tampering-settlement-be-announced-just-before-round-one-of-the-draft

So does anyone think this story has any validity?

I have seen it in a couple places now

That would be some crazy shit

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

What the Falcons did was reprehensible. A blight on the NFL. Because of them we have to spend at least #1 on a QB and therefore anything short of surrendering the 8th pick to us will fail settle this egregious infraction. I still feel violated.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

What the Falcons did was reprehensible. A blight on the NFL. Because of them we have to spend at least #1 on a QB and therefore anything short of surrendering the 8th pick to us will fail settle this egregious infraction. I still feel violated.