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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 2:12:34 PM   
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I don't have ESPN+ but saw this out there:

Walder: Vikings-Jets trade good move for both teams (ESPN+)
This is when it makes sense to trade up. A small move to land a sliding quarterback when you're a QB-needy team with other QB-needy teams sitting right behind you. The Vikings just altered the course of their franchise for, relative to other quarterback trade-ups, a cheap price. The Vikings paid an extra fourth-round pick's worth of value to move up the one spot, according to ESPN's draft pick valuations. But we can't judge trade-ups for quarterbacks on the same scale as everything else; the upside of a QB hitting is like no other position -- it makes sense to pay more for it.


Walder: Vikings' second trade not nearly as good as the first (ESPN+)
If we assume future picks are in the middle of the round and apply a 10% discount, Minnesota surrendered an early second-round pick of extra value to select Alabama edge Dallas Turner. That's bad! By my count, out of 93 first-round non-QB trades since 2004, this is the ninth-most-expensive trade-up according to ESPN draft pick valuations, despite it occurring in the middle of the round. And that's probably generous because the Vikings have a rookie QB -- which means there's a decent chance they are drafting at the beginning of rounds next year. And they shouldn't be advancing draft picks in time because they aren't Super Bowl contenders right now!


As long as he is healthy, I'm cool with the pick. He looked like a terrorfying pass rusher at times with Alabama.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 2:27:31 PM   
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The Snake went to the Swamp.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:00:02 PM   
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A huge physical corner for Flores to coach up. Nice pickup.


Hey, Todd. Do you like him as a corner or a safety?


I’d love to see him groomed into a safety.



Seeing how corner is far more valuable than safety, the answer is CB!
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:09:27 PM   
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Next pick is ours.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:14:31 PM   
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Finally. An offensive lineman.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:15:19 PM   
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Rouse, T. Looked like a lead footed Stay-Puff man in a few highlights.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:17:45 PM   
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Rouse, T. Looked like a lead footed Stay-Puff man in a few highlights.


I thought Laumea would be our pick. He's an experienced interior guy.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:25:18 PM   
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The three minutes of highlights I watched…of Rouse..

Training camp in boxing gloves and 4 holding calls a game, easy..

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:36:51 PM   
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CB Kyrie Jackson

I guess they had a preference.

FWIW Dorius goes next.


Lindy's had a third round grade on him:

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"Smothering height, length abd size for the position...Scheme versatile and most comfortable in competitive scenarios coming from press and man...Closes quickly and knows how to use his wingspan to disrupt passing lanes and timing...Terror shooting through blocking on screens and sweeps. Hits to dislodge the ball. Natura; ball skills with extensive wide receiver background.

"If a prospect can tout upside potential and scare some away dye t age and inexperience, this is your man...stiff hips and below-average change-of-direction agility."


They compare him to Benjamin St-Juste, WAS.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 3:38:19 PM   
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The three minutes of highlights I watched…of Rouse..

Training camp in boxing gloves and 4 holding calls a game, easy..


One ESPN 'highlight' showed him getting bull-rushed almost off the bottom of the screen. The play went for a TD, so I guess that was the highlight. In the two other plays he tapped a guy then diverted across the LOS at the speed you see players run after the whistle blows.

Guess he's projected as IOL, and could stick considering how easy it should be to beat out the current trash heap.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:04:20 PM   
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Guessing the guard Mahogany will be gone before we pick
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:07:09 PM   
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Guessing the guard Mahogany will be gone before we pick


He's available.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:10:18 PM   
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A kicker!
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:11:02 PM   
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I’d have taken the guard..

But whatever..

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:11:58 PM   
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Guessing the guard Mahogany will be gone before we pick


He's available.

Passed on him for the Rednecks' kicker. Oh well
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:14:11 PM   
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Guessing the guard Mahogany will be gone before we pick


He's available.

Passed on him for the Rednecks' kicker. Oh well

Bama K Reichard. Really good college K. Who knows.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:27:47 PM   
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In the few sites just reviewed, the Stanford kicker is ranked higher. Maybe one did better with pressure kicks.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:31:03 PM   
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Now we just have 2 picks left in the Spielman round.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:37:21 PM   
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Interesting read about Payton conference calling us and the Raiders advising no one trade up and start a frenzie. Being coy off the table bc they all had their eyes on different guys. Then Atlanta ****ed it up. Cost us 2 picks. The Raiders their QB. Denver was the one not affected interestingly.


Denver Broncos coach Sean Payton said Friday he was trying to bait them into doing just that. He added a crass smile after the comment

"I was actively involved in trying to pretend we were moving forward," Payton told Denver reporters on Friday“


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Well that reads a bit different.

Getting tired of the internet.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:39:46 PM   
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QB who is at least in the mix.
Top defender.
Pseudo-project corner (hybrid?).
Another human to add to the IOL mess.
A placekicker.
7th.
7th.

Almost time to start assembling the list of undrafteds!
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:43:11 PM   
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If anyone believes Sean Payton, they deserve everything he conned them on and they should be fired for stupidity.
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 4:44:52 PM   
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We should garner a lot of interest from UDFA’s.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 5:19:43 PM   
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A center in the 7th, #10
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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 5:20:38 PM   
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A DT in the 7th, #12.

6'1", 269 lbs.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/27/2024 5:28:01 PM   
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Starting to cool on UDFA based on the projects being taken 3 of the last 4 picks by us.
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