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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:31:50 PM   
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Compensation update: The #Raiders are signing QB Gardner Minshew to a two-year, $25 million deal that includes $15M fully guaranteed, per sources.

Too much for us.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:35:29 PM   
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I wonder if they are quietly interested in Fields

They supposedly were very interested when he came out

Maybe waiting trying to get the compensation down?
A 3rd rounder next year?

5th rounder at the most. Bears have no leverage at all.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:38:33 PM   
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. We just spent over 120 million in FA. Total rebuild? No cap space?


Like I said, anything can be done when it's paid for in the future.

We didn't re-structure anybody to be able to sign these guys, did we?

Nope. So far no cans have been kicked down the road.

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:40:26 PM   
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Could Heinicke or Cooper Rush be available for cheap, as a bridge QB ?

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:41:11 PM   
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. We just spent over 120 million in FA. Total rebuild? No cap space?


Like I said, anything can be done when it's paid for in the future.

We didn't re-structure anybody to be able to sign these guys, did we?


We haven't signed them yet. But I wasn't thinking of a restructure as much as mere backloading and void years. And true value of the contracts remain to be seen.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:41:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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I wonder if they are quietly interested in Fields

They supposedly were very interested when he came out

Maybe waiting trying to get the compensation down?
A 3rd rounder next year?

5th rounder at the most. Bears have no leverage at all.


Are you assuming we're the only team that would be interested in him?
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:41:49 PM   
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Packers signed RB Josh Jacobs.

Aaron Jones in purple???
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:43:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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I wonder if they are quietly interested in Fields

They supposedly were very interested when he came out

Maybe waiting trying to get the compensation down?
A 3rd rounder next year?

5th rounder at the most. Bears have no leverage at all.


Are you assuming we're the only team that would be interested in him?

I'm assuming there are better or equal QBs that teams can sign without giving up anything.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:44:16 PM   
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. We just spent over 120 million in FA. Total rebuild? No cap space?


Like I said, anything can be done when it's paid for in the future.

We didn't re-structure anybody to be able to sign these guys, did we?

Nope. So far no cans have been kicked down the road.


Right. Because the contracts haven't been set.

Who knows, maybe the team will pay for them in a responsible manner.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:50:25 PM   
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Packers signed RB Josh Jacobs.

Aaron Jones in purple???


Not sure how much he has left, but he'd definitely be an upgrade.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:50:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

I wonder if they are quietly interested in Fields

They supposedly were very interested when he came out

Maybe waiting trying to get the compensation down?
A 3rd rounder next year?

5th rounder at the most. Bears have no leverage at all.


Are you assuming we're the only team that would be interested in him?

I'm assuming there are better or equal QBs that teams can sign without giving up anything.


It just takes one other team to offer a 3rd or 4th.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 4:52:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

I wonder if they are quietly interested in Fields

They supposedly were very interested when he came out

Maybe waiting trying to get the compensation down?
A 3rd rounder next year?

5th rounder at the most. Bears have no leverage at all.


Are you assuming we're the only team that would be interested in him?

I'm assuming there are better or equal QBs that teams can sign without giving up anything.


It just takes one other team to offer a 3rd or 4th.

True.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:04:00 PM   
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I wouldn’t mind giving Mac Jones a second shot here.

Jones has already been traded to somebody else. Maybe Jaguars.

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:04:45 PM   
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WooHoo, the Cousins era has officially ENDED!!!!

When we're going 4-13 the next 3 years you will pine for the Kirk era.



I promise you I will never pine for Kirk Cousins.

I may pine for better QB play, but I don't want that guy back. Ever


I'm gonna LMAO when the Falcons pine for the day they didn't make that dumbass decision

I'm one of the biggest Kirk fans around, but that contract was insane.

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:05:30 PM   
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Walterfootball.com free agent grades.

Greenyard: B+

Van Ginkel: A+

Cashman: B+
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:06:17 PM   
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Well, nothing glaringly bad about the FAs. Some good attributes, breakout seasons, some injuries. Cautiously optimistic.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:06:20 PM   
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Compensation update: The #Raiders are signing QB Gardner Minshew to a two-year, $25 million deal that includes $15M fully guaranteed, per sources.

Just about right IMO. Are the Raiders still likely to try to trade ahead of us?

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:06:42 PM   
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Davenport is detroit’s problem now. Good luck to them.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:07:52 PM   
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Damn site better than reading about Davenport a year ago.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:07:55 PM   
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. We just spent over 120 million in FA. Total rebuild? No cap space?


Like I said, anything can be done when it's paid for in the future.

We didn't re-structure anybody to be able to sign these guys, did we?

I don't believe we did.

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:09:27 PM   
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Davenport is detroit’s problem now. Good luck to them.

We need a difference maker on the DLine but we have already spent a pretty penny. CB also.

Big draft for KAM. Needs to nail it.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:11:24 PM   
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Davenport is detroit’s problem now. Good luck to them.

We need a difference maker on the DLine but we have already spent a pretty penny. CB also.

Big draft for KAM. Needs to nail it.


Yep. We’re still a long way from where we need to be.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:38:18 PM   
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Aaron Jones in purple???

He is a GREAT back Mark, not sure why they've given up on him.

Not sure he is a great fit for the Vikings, unless they were trying to make a run this year, he has a lot of mileage on him.

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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:40:32 PM   
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Aaron Jones in purple???

He is a GREAT back Mark, not sure why they've given up on him.

Not sure he is a great fit for the Vikings, unless they were trying to make a run this year, he has a lot of mileage on him.


Because he's 29 and was owed 12M this year.
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RE: 2024 Free Agency - 3/11/2024 5:49:43 PM   
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Seifert:

Jonathan Greenard, LB
Minnesota agreed to terms on a four-year, $72 million deal with Greenard, the former Houston Texans linebacker.

What it means: Greenard almost certainly is the Vikings' replacement for longtime edge rusher Danielle Hunter, who is a pending free agent and negotiated a deal last summer to prevent the Vikings from using the franchise tag to keep him. He is a worthy successor. Greenard is three years younger than Hunter and an ascending player, having recorded a career-high 12.5 sacks last season. In 2023, in fact, his 22.4% pass rush win rate ranked notably higher than Hunter's (13.5%). He also has the size at 265 pounds to fit well in defensive coordinator Brian Flores' multi-positional scheme.

What's the risk: Durability is a concern. Greenard has never played a full NFL season, and he missed nearly half of 2022 because of a calf injury. Last season, an ankle injury cost him two games. Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah has not been afraid to take on players who have had injury histories, but those decisions have not always paid off. Last season, for example, he signed oft-injured pass-rusher Marcus Davenport and then watched as the Vikings got only four games out of him because of two separate ankle injuries.

Andrew Van Ginkel, LB
The Vikings and Van Ginkel agreed to a two-year, $20 million deal.

What it means: It's hardly a coincidence that Van Ginkel ended up in Minnesota. Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores was the Miami Dolphins' head coach in 2019 when Van Ginkel was drafted there, and the Vikings have given Flores a strong influence on their plan to upgrade defensive personnel. Van Ginkel has put up huge sack numbers as an edge rusher -- he set a career high with six in 2023 -- but he ranked No. 20 in the NFL in pass rush win rate (17.9%) last season. Flores will have a plan to maximize his skills opposite fellow newcomer Jonathan Greenard.

What's the risk: Van Ginkel suffered a foot injury in the 2023 regular-season finale and was placed on injured reserve prior to the Dolphins' wild-card playoff game against the Kansas City Chiefs. All free agent acquisitions are contingent on passing a physical, of course, and the Vikings can protect themselves contractually if they need to at that point. But the Vikings' history with acquiring players who have injury histories are mixed at best, and Van Ginkel's health will be worth watching.

Blake Cashman, LB
Minnesota and Cashman came to terms on a three-year contract.

What it means: Cashman became a full-time starter last season in his fifth year in the league, quickly becoming a tackling machine for the Texans while also excelling in coverage. That means he could likely pair with rising star Ivan Pace Jr. as an inside linebacker in the Vikings' 3-4 scheme, and it could well mean that veteran Jordan Hicks, who turns 32 this summer and is a pending free agent himself, is moving on. Cashman will also give the Vikings another local connection to their fan base, as he attended high school in suburban Minneapolis and played at the University of Minnesota.

What's the risk: There isn't a long record of Cashman holding up over a full season as a prominent defensive player, largely because of injuries. He appeared in only 14 games and played a total of 612 defensive snaps in his first three NFL seasons, all with the New York Jets. After joining the Texans, however, he played in 30 of a possible 34 games. Flores' game plans tend to vary from week to week, especially for inside linebackers, so it's possible that Cashman's playing time could vary based on the opponent.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39575242/vikings-2024-free-agency-tracker-offseason-moves-signings
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