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ORIGINAL: beo

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What did everyone think of our all whites? They weren’t great imo. The silver really threw me. I think JJ wanted them to highlight all his diamonds.

We looked like the Indianapolis Colts.

I thought I was just being the "lone grumpy old man"... I didn't care for them.
(was at the game)
Horn didn't stick out at all... looked like an all white helmet.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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What a weird and crazy egomaniac.

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After that hour, McAfee started to say "ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers" before Rodgers cut him off.

"I'm not done," he said, to which McAfee replied "oh (expletive)."

Rodgers then went into what he called "just a quick PSA reminder" for the show.

"Say whatever the (expletive) you want about me, I don't care, but just before you do it, whether you state your name, your accolades, pronouns, whatever it is, just state your [vaccination] status so that anything you say afterwards gets put in the right light," he said. "Just get it out there."

He did not name anyone individually at ESPN or elsewhere, but continued to emphasize vaccination status.

"Then when you say things about me people can at least be like, 'oh, you are captured by the multimillion-dollar propaganda Skyhawk and you're still upset about it,'" he continued. "Just so everybody knows where you're coming from, everybody knows 'okay, cool, you're twice [vaccinated with] Moderna with three booster shots' and then say what you want to say, whatever."

McAfee and co-host A.J. Hawk both commented that this will help things at the network, likely referring to comments from Clark and others at ESPN.

"I don't care," Rodgers went on. "I'm just saying a PSA, just please help everybody who's wondering 'where is this coming from?' Including myself... do a little bit of digging and then you know where it's all coming from. You're captured, you're highly vaccinated and then say whatever the hell you want to say about me [because] I couldn't give two (expletive)s about it."

Rodgers ended with a request that media members put their vaccination status on-air in their biographies instead of their accolades "because [they] cared so much about it during the COVID years."

He then made his lone reference to Clark, saying "you don't just need a broach with your initials." Clark wore a gold lapel with his initials "RC" on it during his appearance on "First Take" criticizing Rodgers' assessment of sports media.

"Put your [vaccination] status on there too," he said.

First thought was the dude has taken too many head shots off the turf.

Too much Cal/Berkeley

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

What a weird and crazy egomaniac.

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After that hour, McAfee started to say "ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers" before Rodgers cut him off.

"I'm not done," he said, to which McAfee replied "oh (expletive)."

Rodgers then went into what he called "just a quick PSA reminder" for the show.

"Say whatever the (expletive) you want about me, I don't care, but just before you do it, whether you state your name, your accolades, pronouns, whatever it is, just state your [vaccination] status so that anything you say afterwards gets put in the right light," he said. "Just get it out there."

He did not name anyone individually at ESPN or elsewhere, but continued to emphasize vaccination status.

"Then when you say things about me people can at least be like, 'oh, you are captured by the multimillion-dollar propaganda Skyhawk and you're still upset about it,'" he continued. "Just so everybody knows where you're coming from, everybody knows 'okay, cool, you're twice [vaccinated with] Moderna with three booster shots' and then say what you want to say, whatever."

McAfee and co-host A.J. Hawk both commented that this will help things at the network, likely referring to comments from Clark and others at ESPN.

"I don't care," Rodgers went on. "I'm just saying a PSA, just please help everybody who's wondering 'where is this coming from?' Including myself... do a little bit of digging and then you know where it's all coming from. You're captured, you're highly vaccinated and then say whatever the hell you want to say about me [because] I couldn't give two (expletive)s about it."

Rodgers ended with a request that media members put their vaccination status on-air in their biographies instead of their accolades "because [they] cared so much about it during the COVID years."

He then made his lone reference to Clark, saying "you don't just need a broach with your initials." Clark wore a gold lapel with his initials "RC" on it during his appearance on "First Take" criticizing Rodgers' assessment of sports media.

"Put your [vaccination] status on there too," he said.

First thought was the dude has taken too many head shots off the turf.

Too much Cal/Berkeley

We have a great discussion about Sam Darnold and Matt just starts fishing because there isn't any Twins news.

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a couple of possibilities in dealing with the sam issue:

with the threat of tagging him; negotiate a trade with an interested team that sam likes, and squeeze some picks out of them - that team and sam's people would finalize a contract that works for both parties....

with the threat of tagging him; we could negotiate a multi-year contract with his people that allows him to stay, but only has a $42mm guarantee and a team opt-out after one year...this would allow him to stay with the vikings in 2025, and we can minimize our '25 cap hit with void years while building out the roster better...sure, he might want more of a guarantee, but he wouldn't get that with the tag anyway - we could make the deal automatically more sam friendly if we keep him beyond the opt-out date....

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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a couple of possibilities in dealing with the sam issue:

with the threat of tagging him; negotiate a trade with an interested team that sam likes, and squeeze some picks out of them - that team and sam's people would finalize a contract that works for both parties....

with the threat of tagging him; we could negotiate a multi-year contract with his people that allows him to stay, but only has a $42mm guarantee and a team opt-out after one year...this would allow him to stay with the vikings in 2025, and we can minimize our '25 cap hit with void years while building out the roster better...sure, he might want more of a guarantee, but he wouldn't get that with the tag anyway - we could make the deal automatically more sam friendly if we keep him beyond the opt-out date....

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Here’s hoping for a good problem in Sam taking us on a playoff run. Uncharted territory for him, who knows if he’ll ball or fall.

If we win it all, or at least appear in the SB I call it a perfect storm and stick with the plan.

Might sound crazy. Might fail. It’s still the right move.

I feel like we're in a great position to have to choose between signing Darnold and taking a chance with a first-round-QB. Based on my signature, I'm in favor of risking it with the cheap rookie. That said, I won't complain if they go with Darnold if he can be had for $35 million per or under. My signature hasn't been adjusted for inflation in a year or two so $35 million might barely qualify as being in compliance with my philosophy. Darnold is a stone cold killer.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Darnold’s ceiling isn’t high enough for him to start eating 35 mil + for any length of time.

We need the guy on a rookie deal and that guy is waiting in the wings. I guarantee JJM has put in the work. Breaking down every game. Every pass, route and options. With the QB whisperer we’ll be fine.

His ceiling? He already has the most 100+ rating games in Vikings history (11)....that is a pretty high ceiling with 3 games left.

What is funny is that most of these guys hated Cousins because he was a check-down Charlie. Darnold presses the ball downfield and looks to make plays, which is far more difficult throwing into coverage.

Some of these people have short memories.

Phil, you and I have a very short list of things we agree on, but this is one of them.

Sam extends plays and throws daggers.....exactly what KOC wants in his offense.
He doesn't check down....especially on plays he extends.

He's also got a much better feel for the pass rush. He may get sacked, but he isn't careless with the ball and doesn't fumble a bunch. Cousins had zero pocket presence. He'd get strip-sacked about every-other game, totally oblivious to what was going on around him. He had no internal clock.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Gotta give props to Turner for that sick knee bend on the sack. I hadn’t really seen anything like it. That’s 99th percentile stuff right there.

his knee brushed the turf as he turned that edge....

Sort of like a short track speed skater or a motorcycle in a high speed curve except it was more insane. Lawrence Taylor, for all his strength, was amazingly athletic like that. It was one of the most incredible plays I've seen.

I don't know why we haven't seen more of this.

I watched him get a lot of snaps against Mathews from ATL. Tried bull rushing most of the time. Use that speed and bend and try and go by them, not through them.

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What a weird and crazy egomaniac.

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After that hour, McAfee started to say "ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers" before Rodgers cut him off.

"I'm not done," he said, to which McAfee replied "oh (expletive)."

Rodgers then went into what he called "just a quick PSA reminder" for the show.

"Say whatever the (expletive) you want about me, I don't care, but just before you do it, whether you state your name, your accolades, pronouns, whatever it is, just state your [vaccination] status so that anything you say afterwards gets put in the right light," he said. "Just get it out there."

He did not name anyone individually at ESPN or elsewhere, but continued to emphasize vaccination status.

"Then when you say things about me people can at least be like, 'oh, you are captured by the multimillion-dollar propaganda Skyhawk and you're still upset about it,'" he continued. "Just so everybody knows where you're coming from, everybody knows 'okay, cool, you're twice [vaccinated with] Moderna with three booster shots' and then say what you want to say, whatever."

McAfee and co-host A.J. Hawk both commented that this will help things at the network, likely referring to comments from Clark and others at ESPN.

"I don't care," Rodgers went on. "I'm just saying a PSA, just please help everybody who's wondering 'where is this coming from?' Including myself... do a little bit of digging and then you know where it's all coming from. You're captured, you're highly vaccinated and then say whatever the hell you want to say about me [because] I couldn't give two (expletive)s about it."

Rodgers ended with a request that media members put their vaccination status on-air in their biographies instead of their accolades "because [they] cared so much about it during the COVID years."

He then made his lone reference to Clark, saying "you don't just need a broach with your initials." Clark wore a gold lapel with his initials "RC" on it during his appearance on "First Take" criticizing Rodgers' assessment of sports media.

"Put your [vaccination] status on there too," he said.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

When has Darnold ever had enough time to hold the ball too long?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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a couple of possibilities in dealing with the sam issue:

with the threat of tagging him; negotiate a trade with an interested team that sam likes, and squeeze some picks out of them - that team and sam's people would finalize a contract that works for both parties....

with the threat of tagging him; we could negotiate a multi-year contract with his people that allows him to stay, but only has a $42mm guarantee and a team opt-out after one year...this would allow him to stay with the vikings in 2025, and we can minimize our '25 cap hit with void years while building out the roster better...sure, he might want more of a guarantee, but he wouldn't get that with the tag anyway - we could make the deal automatically more sam friendly if we keep him beyond the opt-out date....

A low guaranteed number.

Team control.

And IF we keep you, why here's what we'll do.

So IOW it's Sam turn the other cheek and find a third one. Maybe not quite the way to negotiate with a UFA.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

When has Darnold ever had enough time to hold the ball too long?

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

When has Darnold ever had enough time to hold the ball too long?

Are you fn serious?

Every sack he takes is holding the ball too long..

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

When has Darnold ever had enough time to hold the ball too long?

Are you fn serious?

Every sack he takes is holding the ball too long..

Really,? It's never that the IOL hemorrhages pass rushers faster than he can rid of the ball?

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

There was also the sack against Chi where CJH completely whiffed on his assignment and let the guy come right up the middle untouched. He almost had to duck that guy as he tried to get out to the far left to take the guy coming off the edge.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What's not to like about Darnold? Holds the ball too long and takes sacks but that can be coached out of him. 27 yrs old entering his prime with no injury history.

When has Darnold ever had enough time to hold the ball too long?

Are you fn serious?

Every sack he takes is holding the ball too long..

Really,? It's never that the IOL hemorrhages pass rushers faster than he can rid of the ball?

It's some of both cases. Occaisionally a rusher comes up the middle immediately and sometimes the pocket holds and he stands there too long. Also, sometimes the pocket holds for a bit and he instinctually moves to a safer area (LOVE THIS!) but then he scans the field too long in those scenarios as well - and sometimes he delivers or runs.

Short story long - sometimes he holds the ball too long. Throw that sucker out of bounds my man - and sometimes he does that too.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

There was also the sack against Chi where CJH completely whiffed on his assignment and let the guy come right up the middle untouched. He almost had to duck that guy as he tried to get out to the far left to take the guy coming off the edge.

CJ made up his mind to go get the free running CB. That play was doomed from the start. Only a bubble screen would have worked there.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I feel I’ve grounded myself on some of this.

Darnold has missed plays. WR’s have dropped TD’s. RB’s fumbled in the RZ. KOC had made questionable calls. The Defense not sharp at times. ST lapses.

But how can you not love this team? We dream every off season to be in this good of a position.

I’m all in.