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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Exec No. 1: “This season has proved Sam needs Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, (T.J.) Hockenson, one of the grittiest offensive lines and a top back in Aaron Jones.

Exec #1 loses a ton of credibility there.

it is a weird way to spell "shittiest (IOL)". Thats for sure.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: marty

If Darnold goes somewhere else, who would be the cheaper backup QB, Cooper Rush or Daniel Jones ?

jones seems like the project with the most upside, so let's have o'connell coach him into the next darnold and get some more picks....

we'll fill the practice squad with underachieving quarterbacks and own the 1st round of every draft....

How many teams are able to go 13-2 with successful and young QB and let him leave and still have success? KOC would have to rewrite history outside of SF (Alex Smith, Kap) and KC (Alex Smith, Mahomes). The thing we do have is the JJM and Jones who is still about Darnold's age.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

5 months after tagging him. Which means The Jags had his money on their books throughout free agency that year.

Its not really that common.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

2020 - Once
2021 - Zero
2022 - Once
2023 - Zero
2024 - Twice

QBs the past 12 seasons - Zero

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

5 months after tagging him. Which means The Jags had his money on their books throughout free agency that year.

Its not really that common.

I was listening to a pod and they talked extensively about this. According to them the big hang up with this is when the money is due. Sure, they can have an agreement all worked out with the Rams, for example. The problem is the money is on our books until the trade is official which eats in to the early FA period. It's doable but sounds a bit risky to me given our obvious needs.

You aren't grabbing a CB/DT worth the money in the 2nd tier of FA.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

5 months after tagging him. Which means The Jags had his money on their books throughout free agency that year.

Its not really that common.

I was listening to a pod and they talked extensively about this. According to them the big hang up with this is when the money is due. Sure, they can have an agreement all worked out with the Rams, for example. The problem is the money is on our books until the trade is official which eats in to the early FA period. It's doable but sounds a bit risky to me given our obvious needs.

You aren't grabbing a CB/DT worth the money in the 2nd tier of FA.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

2020 - Once
2021 - Zero
2022 - Once
2023 - Zero
2024 - Twice

QBs the past 12 seasons - Zero

Has there been a qb this good for sale?

Lamar Jackson a couple years back but he was given the Nonexclusive tag so it would have taken two #1 picks and a 231ml guaranteed contract.

7 teams will be shopping for a qb this offseason and not a top heavy qb draft

I'd take a high 2nd and 3rd rd pick and move him asap so we can be heavy players in FA

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

5 months after tagging him. Which means The Jags had his money on their books throughout free agency that year.

Its not really that common.

I was listening to a pod and they talked extensively about this. According to them the big hang up with this is when the money is due. Sure, they can have an agreement all worked out with the Rams, for example. The problem is the money is on our books until the trade is official which eats in to the early FA period. It's doable but sounds a bit risky to me given our obvious needs.

You aren't grabbing a CB/DT worth the money in the 2nd tier of FA.

We have 76ml in cap space. That's still 35ml to play with until he's traded. That's plenty to ink a DJ Reed and one other tier one FA. Kwesi seems to be more of a tier two FA shopper anyhow.

Edit: probably only room for one tier one FA

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

2020 - Once
2021 - Zero
2022 - Once
2023 - Zero
2024 - Twice

QBs the past 12 seasons - Zero

Has there been a qb this good for sale?

Lamar Jackson a couple years back but he was given the Nonexclusive tag so it would have taken two #1 picks and a 231ml guaranteed contract.

7 teams will be shopping for a qb this offseason and not a top heavy qb draft

I'd take a high 2nd and 3rd rd pick and move him asap so we can be heavy players in FA

Maybe an explanation for why it hasn't happened is teams with QBs "this good" don't franchise them with the intent of trading them away. I'm not versed in much of this beyond some historic facts. Of non-QBs.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

I guess this rebuilding year is going fine. So far.


For those interested, Chris Kluwe is in Bluesky, doing critiques of special team play (among other stuff).

Insta-critique of Myers 60 yard miss: "Lunged on his second step instead of driving through the ball"
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3ldwn23v3xs2o

"Vikings punter needs to get his ass into the kick. No follow through which is why his hangtime is struggling."
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3ldwlkp6ngk2o

Very detailed analysis of the blocked punt last week: "This block is on the left tackle (54). Chicago’s been showing jammers coming down the whole game, which necessitates a recount (54 has the L2), but they time it up right where everyone thinks it’s a seven man front except for 54, who chases wide because he thinks the motion guy is rushing. He compounds his error by taking his steps wide instead of straight back, which opens a hole for the inside rusher he’s supposed to be blocking (you should always drop straight back to let twists and loops play out in front of you). The personal protector *should have* been in position to clean up the missed block, since he sent the long snapper to the right (which means the PP has the left A gap), but he’s not looking for someone to come through free like that from what should be an easily blocked side. This is why communication on the line and taking your proper steps in the proper alignment are so important!"
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3ldhxq34wig2f (video & thread)

From earlier in the last game: "Vikings punter needs more followthrough. Gotta get your ass into the kick"
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3ldhth7orvr2v

"Have I mentioned I really like the Vikings’ kicker’s motion? [Yes he has] Because he’s got a real good motion."
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3ldhnpo7uxp2x

He got frustrated during the UCLA/Washington game:
"I DO NOT LIKE THE UCLA KICKER’S MOTION NO I DO NOT"
"DON’T LIKE THE WASHINGTON KICKER’S STANCE EITHER NOPE I DO NOT"
"STOP USING YOUR HIPS TO GENERATE POWER COLLEGE KICKER CHALLENGE GRADE IMPOASIBLE"
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3lb237dzgvn2o (***diagram on foot motion when using hips vs. not)

Or way back with Reichard was injured:
"Vikings kicker’s plant foot is too far forward, that’s why he’s pushing it right."
Later in thread: "Sounds like he has some kind of injury, so he’s probably overcompensating with his step in trying to get enough power"
https://bsky.app/profile/chriswarcraft.bsky.social/post/3la3oflfheq2g

One of the responses was amusing:
Q: A plausible theory. But have you considered the Vikings have offended the Gods?
A: Also plausible


Occasionally he'll do a quick analysis of a kick video from various teams. I didn't pull out any examples.


Anyway, IIRC he thinks the Eagles kicker uses his hips too much, which makes him less consistent. Something to keep in mind during the playoffs. Kickers who use their hips tend to have short careers, maybe 2-3 years, because if their timing is ever off, they're finished.

I'm starting to wonder if the kicking balls are juiced. Back when they started using kicking balls(K Balls), they were said to not go as far as a used game ball. Now, all of the sudden, guys are ripping 55 to 60 yarders with ease.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I guess basically you can find a team that wants him, and tell them we won't franchise him if they give us a 2nd round pick?

And then what? We enter into a sign and trade where we don't get stuck with any cap hit in the process?

Then why is this done practically every offseason?

Brian Burns and LaDarius Sneed were both tagged and traded last off season

Jaguars tagged Ngakoue and traded him to us in 2021

2020 - Once
2021 - Zero
2022 - Once
2023 - Zero
2024 - Twice

QBs the past 12 seasons - Zero

Has there been a qb this good for sale?

Lamar Jackson a couple years back but he was given the Nonexclusive tag so it would have taken two #1 picks and a 231ml guaranteed contract.

7 teams will be shopping for a qb this offseason and not a top heavy qb draft

I'd take a high 2nd and 3rd rd pick and move him asap so we can be heavy players in FA

Maybe an explanation for why it hasn't happened is teams with QBs "this good" don't franchise them with the intent of trading them away. I'm not versed in much of this beyond some historic facts. Of non-QBs.

Good point. I guess the 100ml dollar question is Sam for real or is he a one year wonder?