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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 1:09:59 PM   
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From Reddit/X

Last 4 QB’s to beat the Packers twice in a season…

Darnold
Keenum
Favre
Cunningham


Goff.


Sorry I forgot to put Vikings QB’s. if only there were clues…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 3:48:18 PM   
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vikes are likely to activate daniel jones on Sunday...we're only eligible for a comp pick if he's on the 53 at the end of the season....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 3:51:12 PM   
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I bet they have the tech available to really look at the Hail Mary that haunts fans to this day.

Rotate the angle. Use AI or whatever to fill where Pearson’s hands were the whole time.

I can see it with the naked eye. DP’s hands are not in a position to push off.

You need your eyes checked.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 4:02:02 PM   
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Love KOC and Darnold.
The Vikes have exceeded anything I would've thought this year.
The Lions look very physical and talented. They have the game at Home. Oue defense will have to be at their best.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 5:00:49 PM   
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Doogie Scoops that franchise Sam and having the ability to trade him at that point.

Jets 49ers Browns Rams Raiders Giants NO Steelers all might need QBs

Lots of leverage if he is franchised.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/31/2024 5:14:18 PM   
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I thought half this board already scooped that
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 5:37:19 AM   
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I thought half this board already scooped that

Franchise to keep. Not franchise to trade. Either way. Franchise seems to be the way

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 7:09:19 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 8:26:57 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 9:05:23 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 9:07:28 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.


i get that...he was selected by and has spent a year of coaching with kevin o'connell...i would think we could get two 1st rounders for him...picking's are thin for QB needy teams....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 9:16:21 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.


penix has a history of injuries...mccarthy is a winner, mature, totally dedicated - I would hate to lose him....

i can't believe that Washington let daniels run the ball 16 times last game....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:15:11 AM   
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WR Jordan Addison is the 5th player in NFL history with 18 touchdown receptions before age 23.

Addison joins Randy Moss, Rob Gronkowski, Ja'Marr Chase and Odell Beckham Jr.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:16:30 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.


i get that...he was selected by and has spent a year of coaching with kevin o'connell...i would think we could get two 1st rounders for him...picking's are thin for QB needy teams....

The class may not be as good as last year, but JJ was the 5th QB taken last year plus he sustained a knee injury that required two procedures. They could definitely get a first and a non first, but I would be very surprised if they could 2 firsts and more.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:39:49 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.


penix has a history of injuries...mccarthy is a winner, mature, totally dedicated - I would hate to lose him....

i can't believe that Washington let daniels run the ball 16 times last game....

We've been envious of GB's QB situtations for 30 years. We have that situation right now. Don't mess it up.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:44:31 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

I watched the Alabama QB play yesterday. He has some good WRs. He is supposedly Top 5 and he is average at best.

This 2025 QB class is way below last years crop.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:45:39 AM   
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Teams have given the bag to QB’s in the hope they’ll be the answer. We got a discounted preview. Sam works. Is showing he can be the guy. He has a final exam to pass though..


There will be a point of no return. If we’re in the SB forget about it. Sam is getting the bag and we’ll have a few years to work out what to do with JJM. I don’t trade him.

If he’s already passed mgmt’s grade but fails to deliver the ultimate prize I hope it’s a 3 year deal we can get out of if JJM wins the job or flashes given an opportunity.

We have a good problem

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:48:38 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.


penix has a history of injuries...mccarthy is a winner, mature, totally dedicated - I would hate to lose him....

i can't believe that Washington let daniels run the ball 16 times last game....

We've been envious of GB's QB situtations for 30 years. We have that situation right now. Don't mess it up.


You mean like in the instances when they had good QBs they kept them?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:48:48 AM   
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I’d be in no hurry to trade JJM anyway. I think it would take a couple years to develop value. I can’t see a team even giving up A #1 any time soon.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 10:55:01 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.


penix has a history of injuries...mccarthy is a winner, mature, totally dedicated - I would hate to lose him....

i can't believe that Washington let daniels run the ball 16 times last game....

We've been envious of GB's QB situtations for 30 years. We have that situation right now. Don't mess it up.


You mean like in the instances when they had good QBs they kept them?

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Yes. One playing and one for the future.

Also, the fact that you have a very good backup in case of injury.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 11:07:13 AM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.

I was a fan of the pick and wanted nothing to do with Nix or Pennix and I don't you could get anything close to two firsts for McCarthy either.


penix has a history of injuries...mccarthy is a winner, mature, totally dedicated - I would hate to lose him....

i can't believe that Washington let daniels run the ball 16 times last game....

We've been envious of GB's QB situtations for 30 years. We have that situation right now. Don't mess it up.


You mean like in the instances when they had good QBs they kept them?


Yes. One playing and one for the future.

Also, the fact that you have a very good backup in case of injury.


It's not a 'fact' that JJM is a very good backup. That said, I wouldn't trade him. The chances of getting two #1s and a #2 are slim to none, and slim just left town.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 11:50:24 AM   
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Not a fact but if you couldn’t at least get ‘very good back up’ out of your 10 ten QB that another major strike against Kwesi’s drafting. How many can he survive.

I don’t think it’s a huge leap of faith to say he should be.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 12:02:40 PM   
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Not a fact but if you couldn’t at least get ‘very good back up’ out of your 10 ten QB that another major strike against Kwesi’s drafting. How many can he survive.

I don’t think it’s a huge leap of faith to say he should be.


I think every team should have a prospective QBOTF on the roster. He is that. No more, no less.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 12:45:45 PM   
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There should be a developmental PS designation for QB’s. You can put one on the PS that can’t be poached by another team for say 2 seasons at least.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/1/2025 1:22:56 PM   
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i was hoping to avoid this idea, but it could make a lot of sense: trading mccarthy....

there is a dearth of desirable qb's coming out in the 2025 draft, and there are 6+ teams that badly need an upgrade...i think that it's very possible one of those teams would pay two 1st and a 2nd rounder for mccarthy...that would equal three starters on rookie contracts, which would equalize the loss of mccarthy, as a starting QB on a rookie contract...especially if the chosen rookies are high-value positions...maybe we trade him to the giants and make dexter lawrence and a 1st that deal....

also, drafting deion's kid could turn out to be a nightmare for teams - might have to hire his dad, too - what a circus that could be....

rob brzezinski could manufacture a contract to keep darnold's cap hit low for maybe three years....

He's not worth that much. First off, he's a totally unproven commodity that hasn't completed a pass in the NFL yet, and now he's coming off a knee injury. He comes from a running program. He rarely played from behind. Infrequently had to run a two-minute offense.

I am not the guy to ask, because I didn't like the pick of McCarthy to begin with. I was a Bo Nix guy and even liked Penix more. I never had visions of McCarthy being a great QB. To me, he was the 6th best QB in the draft. I wouldn't give you a late first for the guy, let alone two firsts and a second.


i get that...he was selected by and has spent a year of coaching with kevin o'connell...i would think we could get two 1st rounders for him...picking's are thin for QB needy teams....

The class may not be as good as last year, but JJ was the 5th QB taken last year plus he sustained a knee injury that required two procedures. They could definitely get a first and a non first, but I would be very surprised if they could 2 firsts and more.


the 2nd procedure was just a squirt of platelet-rich plasma - that part of the knee is naturally bereft of blood supply....

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