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ORIGINAL: Todd M

You seem to have this notion that teams that are in the drivers seat for picks are bringing the draft trade value chart to negotiations. It’s going to be value plus not fair value.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

There are 3 excellent QB prospects in this draft (Williams, Daniels Maye). Two are fool's gold (Nix & Penix). One is somewhere in between (McCarthy).

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

There are 3 excellent QB prospects in this draft (Williams, Daniels Maye). Two are fool's gold (Nix & Penix). One is somewhere in between (McCarthy).

I don't get the love for Maye. He's big and strong. Lots of people are big and strong.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not buying the stuff about Richardson last year, what KOC seeks, etc. The qualities that KOC spewed are merely things he wished he had when playing QB in the league.
They could be looking for a QB that adds a running dimension or ability to make plays out of nothing merely because that's in vogue. God knows why, and there's no telling how quick such a QB would be a bust here.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

There are 3 excellent QB prospects in this draft (Williams, Daniels Maye). Two are fool's gold (Nix & Penix). One is somewhere in between (McCarthy).

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

There are 3 excellent QB prospects in this draft (Williams, Daniels Maye). Two are fool's gold (Nix & Penix). One is somewhere in between (McCarthy).

I don't get the love for Maye. He's big and strong. Lots of people are big and strong.

That's about as incomplete a scouting report as I have ever seen.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

How about

Excellent athletic ability with quickness and speed, making him a dual-threat as a scrambler and designed runner.
Boasts very strong arm strength, delivering throws with high velocity outside the numbers and deep downfield.
Demonstrates great skill in throwing off-platform and under pressure, maintaining accuracy even in a cluttered pocket.
Shows superb accuracy across all three levels of the field, coupled with occasional flashes of exceptional touch.
Operates effectively within structure, maintaining timeliness and awareness of checkdown options.
Prototypical, tall QB build combined with exceptional mobility and quantifiable elite arm talent.
Effortlessly generates high velocity on throws with a crisp release, effectively pushing the ball outside the numbers.
Exhibits remarkable 360-degree arm flexibility and fluidity, enhancing his ability to make off-platform throws.
In 2022 North Carolina had one of the worst offensive lines in college football, but he still managed to put up huge numbers despite being under constant pressure
Impressive sporting bloodlines - Dad, Mark, played QB at North Carolina, and his brother, Luke, was a two-time All-ACC basketball player as a Tar Heel
Tall athlete with the speed and foot quickness to pick up yards on the ground. Ran a lot of designed quarterback runs and showed the athleticism to be considered a legitimate dual-threat option.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Or...

Tall, prototypical, well-built QB with superb mobility and quantifiably elite arm talent.
Generates high-level velocity with effortless ease and a crisp, snappy release.
Can push the ball outside the numbers and past tight coverage with very little strain.
Has extremely fluid hip torque and legitimate 360-degree arm elasticity off-platform.
Possesses extremely underrated quick twitch, lateral burst, and evasive ability.
Has impressive control and alignment with his shoulders, both in and out of structure.
Has the corrective mobility and foot quickness to stabilize his base ahead of throws.
Displays consistent anticipation both when reacting to breaks and reading zones.
Can work left to right on progressions and consistently leads his eyes with his feet.
Boasts rare leverage awareness both as a pocket navigator and a downfield passer.
Weaponizes his high-level anticipation and field vision with active eye manipulation.
Has a willingness to take calculated risks but can also take what the defense gives him.
Greatly improved his pocket discipline and navigation feel as a space operator in 2023.
Has exceptional accuracy and situational placement to all levels to negate contact.
Competitive toughness and poise show up both as a pocket operator and a runner.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Or...

Tall, prototypical, well-built QB with superb mobility and quantifiably elite arm talent.
Generates high-level velocity with effortless ease and a crisp, snappy release.
Can push the ball outside the numbers and past tight coverage with very little strain.
Has extremely fluid hip torque and legitimate 360-degree arm elasticity off-platform.
Possesses extremely underrated quick twitch, lateral burst, and evasive ability.
Has impressive control and alignment with his shoulders, both in and out of structure.
Has the corrective mobility and foot quickness to stabilize his base ahead of throws.
Displays consistent anticipation both when reacting to breaks and reading zones.
Can work left to right on progressions and consistently leads his eyes with his feet.
Boasts rare leverage awareness both as a pocket navigator and a downfield passer.
Weaponizes his high-level anticipation and field vision with active eye manipulation.
Has a willingness to take calculated risks but can also take what the defense gives him.
Greatly improved his pocket discipline and navigation feel as a space operator in 2023.
Has exceptional accuracy and situational placement to all levels to negate contact.
Competitive toughness and poise show up both as a pocket operator and a runner.

I think you just went Pros and skipped the cons.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Or even...

STRENGTHS
Maye possesses an elite arm that allows him to get the ball to his desired target despite not being in the best throwing position. Arm strength isn’t all about how far one can throw the ball, as the velocity that they throw with is just as important. Maye has that velocity that allows him to fit the ball into tight windows.
He’s shown an elite ability to operate in the middle of the field. He had a 94.8 PFF passing grade on throws in between the college hashes, which led all FBS quarterbacks with at least 50 attempts. To be a consistent passer over the middle of the field, quarterbacks need to be on time with their progressions, and Maye can do that at a consistently high level. He knows how to hold underneath defenders with his eyes while throwing the ball right behind them with good anticipation.
Maye is not just a sneaky good athlete, he’s a great athlete. When the play breaks down, he can still succeed, but he doesn’t rely on it. That playmaking ability can be very chaotic at times, leading to plays you don’t normally see on a football field.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Or...

Tall, prototypical, well-built QB with superb mobility and quantifiably elite arm talent.
Generates high-level velocity with effortless ease and a crisp, snappy release.
Can push the ball outside the numbers and past tight coverage with very little strain.
Has extremely fluid hip torque and legitimate 360-degree arm elasticity off-platform.
Possesses extremely underrated quick twitch, lateral burst, and evasive ability.
Has impressive control and alignment with his shoulders, both in and out of structure.
Has the corrective mobility and foot quickness to stabilize his base ahead of throws.
Displays consistent anticipation both when reacting to breaks and reading zones.
Can work left to right on progressions and consistently leads his eyes with his feet.
Boasts rare leverage awareness both as a pocket navigator and a downfield passer.
Weaponizes his high-level anticipation and field vision with active eye manipulation.
Has a willingness to take calculated risks but can also take what the defense gives him.
Greatly improved his pocket discipline and navigation feel as a space operator in 2023.
Has exceptional accuracy and situational placement to all levels to negate contact.
Competitive toughness and poise show up both as a pocket operator and a runner.

I think you just went Pros and skipped the cons.

You're question was what the Maye love was about.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not buying the stuff about Richardson last year, what KOC seeks, etc. The qualities that KOC spewed are merely things he wished he had when playing QB in the league.
They could be looking for a QB that adds a running dimension or ability to make plays out of nothing merely because that's in vogue. God knows why, and there's no telling how quick such a QB would be a bust here.

You’re back from your sabbatical.

You missed some saucy intellectual draft analysis from myself and others.

All of it perfectly spot on and rational like the lingering Richardson innuendo.

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ORIGINAL: timz

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-draft-prospect-drake-maye-kind-player-will-get-you-fired-ex-steelers-player-warns

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: timz

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-draft-prospect-drake-maye-kind-player-will-get-you-fired-ex-steelers-player-warns

... but ... its fox news ...

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ORIGINAL: timz

"... but ... its fox news ... "
Last time I checked Merril Hoge does not work for Fox News