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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 7:52:26 AM   
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I think they thought they’d have an easy time of it. Roll up and down the field like everyone else had against this banged up Defense. They lost another guy and we still couldn’t do shit.

We showed up like we were 2-14.

This season is NOT memorable at all if we get bounced next week. And I 100% expect we will. Kevin and Sam can’t get the job done.

Besides Gink and Greenard, all I saw last night was a bunch of pansy asses. As cynical as I am even I would have never predicted that level of wussiness. Just another 2022 season which won't be memorable at all, like you said.



It’s unreal, Richard. I was calm all day. Feeling positive. I believed. And what do we get? A giant shit burger. And you’re right, the game was nothing I could have predicted. I’m pissed.

With nearly 55 years of watching the Vikings, I never expect to win something big. I am conditioned that way. Therefore I am disappointed, but I can't say I'm surprised. The Vikings played a very soft schedule this season and got every inch out of it. What I saw last night was a team with much better coaching beating a team with inexperienced coaching. I think the O'Connell/Flores combination has a lot of potential, but the first half of that equation has to get a lot less emotional and check his ego at the door. You have to make in-game adjustments and understand your shortcomings. We made a ton of mistakes in the first half and trailed by only four points. We melted down in the second half, all on our own. Aaron Glenn was licking his chops.

One of the worst things I saw all night was our starters on the field with five minutes left. At some point you have to look yourself in the mirror.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 7:57:27 AM   
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Get a win next week and everyone forgets what happened yesterday. The most important season starts today. One win at a time.

Did we shit the bed? Yes. Was it a winnable game? Yes.

What we also did was provide a formula for stopping our offense. O'Connell better start figuring it out quickly or it will be an early exit. The players are not changing at this point. The offensive line is miserable. By the way, so is Kansas City's. Darnold has been sacked 48 times and it could have been 68. Yet, he still has the #6 passer rating. The problem is, we are now playing good football teams. Those defensive coordinators are smart and have good players. O'Connell has to be better and for god's sake, make adjustments.

On a side note, can we please put the ridiculous kickoff rules out to pasture? It's just stupid. I don't know who thought that new formula was going to be interesting, but they need to find a new profession.

It'll be deja vu all over again. Lose to the Lions then the Rams only to lose to the Lions then the Rams. Would be nice if we could take the money being allocated to Hockenson and get a good DT in here. Oliver is every bit as good as Hockenson so why are we spending that on him? I can't believe I thought he was good at one point. Him and Jefferson looked like they had glue traps on them with how close defenders were on them as the game progressed.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:03:38 AM   
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Get a win next week and everyone forgets what happened yesterday. The most important season starts today. One win at a time.

Did we shit the bed? Yes. Was it a winnable game? Yes.

What we also did was provide a formula for stopping our offense. O'Connell better start figuring it out quickly or it will be an early exit. The players are not changing at this point. The offensive line is miserable. By the way, so is Kansas City's. Darnold has been sacked 48 times and it could have been 68. Yet, he still has the #6 passer rating. The problem is, we are now playing good football teams. Those defensive coordinators are smart and have good players. O'Connell has to be better and for god's sake, make adjustments.

On a side note, can we please put the ridiculous kickoff rules out to pasture? It's just stupid. I don't know who thought that new formula was going to be interesting, but they need to find a new profession.

It'll be deja vu all over again. Lose to the Lions then the Rams only to lose to the Lions then the Rams. Would be nice if we could take the money being allocated to Hockenson and get a good DT in here. Oliver is every bit as good as Hockenson so why are we spending that on him? I can't believe I thought he was good at one point. Him and Jefferson looked like they had glue traps on them with how close defenders were on them as the game progressed.

Yea, I'm not going to blame it on any one player. The Lions were in our huddle. They knew what was coming because we made no adjustments. Hockenson has been a good player. Is he Travis Kelce or Rob Gronkowski? No. But he is a good receiver at his position. The coach didn't put him in a position to succeed.

The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the running game. We'd get into Detroit territory and suddenly go away from it. Playoff football is not a beauty contest. If running the ball can get you across the finish line, do it. We'd see Bill Belichick do it all the time, despite having Tom Brady. In many ways, Aaron Glenn allowed us to melt down. He wasn't concerned about losing a game to Aaron Jones, because he knew we wouldn't stick with it. We bailed him out.

Vanity is a dangerous thing for a football coach.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:04:35 AM   
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I think they thought they’d have an easy time of it. Roll up and down the field like everyone else had against this banged up Defense. They lost another guy and we still couldn’t do shit.

We showed up like we were 2-14.

This season is NOT memorable at all if we get bounced next week. And I 100% expect we will. Kevin and Sam can’t get the job done.

Besides Gink and Greenard, all I saw last night was a bunch of pansy asses. As cynical as I am even I would have never predicted that level of wussiness. Just another 2022 season which won't be memorable at all, like you said.



It’s unreal, Richard. I was calm all day. Feeling positive. I believed. And what do we get? A giant shit burger. And you’re right, the game was nothing I could have predicted. I’m pissed.

With nearly 55 years of watching the Vikings, I never expect to win something big. I am conditioned that way. Therefore I am disappointed, but I can't say I'm surprised. The Vikings played a very soft schedule this season and got every inch out of it. What I saw last night was a team with much better coaching beating a team with inexperienced coaching. I think the O'Connell/Flores combination has a lot of potential, but the first half of that equation has to get a lot less emotional and check his ego at the door. You have to make in-game adjustments and understand your shortcomings. We made a ton of mistakes in the first half and trailed by only four points. We melted down in the second half, all on our own. Aaron Glenn was licking his chops.

One of the worst things I saw all night was our starters on the field with five minutes left. At some point you have to look yourself in the mirror.

KOC is drawing up his game plan right now and nothing or nobody will get him to stray from it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:24:36 AM   
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We won the turnovers battle 2 to 0 and still couldn't score 10 on that defense. That's how bad KOC and the offense was.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:28:15 AM  1 votes
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WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:31:20 AM   
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WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:32:12 AM   
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WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.

BINGO! A giant collection of weenies. Especially offensively.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:32:19 AM   
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The Defense was holding us in that game but we came out so embarrassingly small.


ST’s were shot too. We now have a mousy kicker not a stud. That kick OOB was unforgivable.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:33:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lars

WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.

Still think our kicker is fine? Who knew he's also completely stupid?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:35:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Lars

WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.


They won’t.

This team deserves no faith in them.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:44:12 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Lars

WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.


They won’t.

This team deserves no faith in them.

Exactly why I always say I'll believe it when I see it. When your kid brings home 60 straight C papers why would anyone expect the next one to be an A?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:49:19 AM   
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Didn’t stop me from getting sucked in again.

**** the journey when all you do is meander around getting no where. I wish I could just check in every Feb to see if we one it all and if they did watch the America’s Game DVD.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 8:59:30 AM   
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Didn’t stop me from getting sucked in again.

**** the journey when all you do is meander around getting no where. I wish I could just check in every Feb to see if we one it all and if they did watch the America’s Game DVD.

It's completely fine to get sucked in. I can respect that. I'm just not able to put too much stock into anything these days until we at least reach the Super Bowl. I've personally never seen them get that far.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:13:52 AM   
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And just like that it’s time to pump the brakes on Darnold.

The praise leading up to this game was more effusive than for any QB in recent memory. But I offer this thought experiment. What if Darnold had the exact same year except Akers doesn’t make that shoestring catch last week and the Packers go on to win? The chatter becomes “Yeah he’s played well, but he let us down when we needed him. It’s Cousins all over again”.

Now follow that up with the debacle in Detroit. Not all his fault but he certainly deserves his share. The Darnold vibe would be very different…hinging on the result of one low pass to Akers. That’s how fickle life is as a QB.

But just like I’ve never overreacted to Darnold’s achievements, likewise I’m not overly detracted by that alternate universe. I said last week Darnold has done enough to be in the conversation for QB next year. That has not changed. No answer yet, but it is still a valid conversation.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:22:30 AM   
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Get a win next week and everyone forgets what happened yesterday. The most important season starts today. One win at a time.

Did we shit the bed? Yes. Was it a winnable game? Yes.

What we also did was provide a formula for stopping our offense. O'Connell better start figuring it out quickly or it will be an early exit. The players are not changing at this point. The offensive line is miserable. By the way, so is Kansas City's. Darnold has been sacked 48 times and it could have been 68. Yet, he still has the #6 passer rating. The problem is, we are now playing good football teams. Those defensive coordinators are smart and have good players. O'Connell has to be better and for god's sake, make adjustments.

On a side note, can we please put the ridiculous kickoff rules out to pasture? It's just stupid. I don't know who thought that new formula was going to be interesting, but they need to find a new profession.

If that had been Cousins you would have been leading the mob with pitchforks and torches.

Since you've been touting Darnold all season, it's no surprise where your argument has gone.

Yes KOC called a really poor game ... waited forever for Darnold to settle in - which he never did - instead of adjusting his play calls. Glenn zeroed in on Darnold's main weakness, holding onto the ball too long to look downfield first, regardless of the pressure, even with people underneath open. This produced big results this year, was refreshing in the post-Cousins dink and dunk-era.

But that doesn't fly when playoff intensity ratchets up and windows get tighter ...

Good God their defense completely sold out and your QB and OC can't adjust from the opening to the closing whistle?

This was not a playoff game but it was.

Every time they showed Darnold's face - which they did often and for good reason, he clearly looked wild-eyed and panicky. Starting with the first drive.

The game/moment was too big for Darnold. Clearly.

In his defense, this is his first year as a true blue starter within an offense that works. All season long he has played very successfully getting away with taking his time waiting for routes to develop. Will be interesting to see if he can settle down this week and attack things differently. IMO he still has a lot of room for growth.

This will be KOC's second playoff rodeo in this position ... we need him angrier and less patient. More vindictive and cruel. Maybe getting punched by good buddy McVay earlier in the year will help him take the gloves off.

I'm really glad we have Flores, he does so much with so little ... but he doesn't get out with out a ding as well. As unsharp as we were, the Lions were not sharp [early] as well - but eventually they adjusted and played games with our defense in the second half. The mantra in here is about the miraculous job Flores does ... imagine what he would do with better players ... Glenn easily outcoached that notion with much less than Flores has to work with.

Unlike most playoff games, we get to play again. Even if the Rams are not as good as the Lions, they're no slouch.

Hoping for much much better.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:43:22 AM   
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WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.


They won’t.

This team deserves no faith in them.


What? 9 game winning streak before one loss....dominant as almost any team we have had in our history. 1 blowout loss all year and only 2 road losses.

It can be good timing and bad timing for different reasons.....good timing as our season isn't over; bad timing as now a path is so much harder.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:47:42 AM   
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I’ll be embarrassed if Kevin gets COY after that performance.

I don’t know what kind of magic mojo he yields to win a lot of regular season games but he has. He’s not really a good HC. Made poorer by being the play caller.

Should just design plays and work with QB’s.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:50:31 AM   
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No new contracts. Scrap it all.

Even the Owners. They’re all wieners.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 9:53:33 AM   
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I’ll be embarrassed if Kevin gets COY after that performance.

I don’t know what kind of magic mojo he yields to win a lot of regular season games but he has. He’s not really a good HC. Made poorer by being the play caller.

Should just design plays and work with QB’s.



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 10:22:39 AM   
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Did someone mention Darnold looked like he was seeing ghosts?

ESPN Research credited Darnold with eight overthrows in the first half. The only game of his career in which he exceeded a 34% off-target rate was when he played for the New York Jets in 2019, in a matchup with the New England Patriots in which NFL Films recorded him saying that he was "seeing ghosts" on the sideline.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 10:25:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Lars

WTF was that?

I thought the defense played very well, especially with the offense playing so shitty. Goff didn't light it up. Got two turnovers to boot!

THAT is why you don't franchise Darnold or sign him to some huge contract. He played so poorly. Dude was seeing ghosts out there. Inaccurate. Passes way too high. No vision or anticipation. Poor pocket presence. Too late getting out of the huddle all the time. It was total dogshit. Good luck on your next team.

This was against a team that has had the worst defense in the NFL for weeks.

The kick OOB? WTF was that?!

The refs were clearly in "let's let them play mode" as they were all over our WR and TE. And sorry, that was a safety.

Hock wit ha 3rd down drop again....

NO adjustments after halftime from KOC? Seriously, dude?

That was fukcing embarrassing.

I have no expectation of a win at LAR. 14 wins and zero playoff run. Classic.


First Butt Kicking of the year...
They puckered up tight but I hope they have it out of their system....Ended a 9 game win streak.


They won’t.

This team deserves no faith in them.


What? 9 game winning streak before one loss....dominant as almost any team we have had in our history. 1 blowout loss all year and only 2 road losses.

It can be good timing and bad timing for different reasons.....good timing as our season isn't over; bad timing as now a path is so much harder.


Yes we did lose to two teams earlier. Then Cashman plays against one of them and it's a blowout loss.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 10:30:48 AM   
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And just like that it’s time to pump the brakes on Darnold.

The praise leading up to this game was more effusive than for any QB in recent memory. But I offer this thought experiment. What if Darnold had the exact same year except Akers doesn’t make that shoestring catch last week and the Packers go on to win? The chatter becomes “Yeah he’s played well, but he let us down when we needed him. It’s Cousins all over again”.

Now follow that up with the debacle in Detroit. Not all his fault but he certainly deserves his share. The Darnold vibe would be very different…hinging on the result of one low pass to Akers. That’s how fickle life is as a QB.

But just like I’ve never overreacted to Darnold’s achievements, likewise I’m not overly detracted by that alternate universe. I said last week Darnold has done enough to be in the conversation for QB next year. That has not changed. No answer yet, but it is still a valid conversation.


Good point on the low throw to Akers. And maybe they hammered 'throw high' into Darnold. In which case he deserves an A+ for executing what they told him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 10:32:03 AM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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The Vikings tonight:

4 times reaching red zone but not scoring a TD
3 times having goal-to-go but not scoring a TD
2 failed 4th-and-goal attempts
1 missed FG

No other NFL team in the last 30 years has done all of that in the same game.

gIvE sD aHuGe CoNtRaCt, nOw!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2025 10:35:47 AM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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Until this franchise, takes IOL serious as a needed position for success, this will never change..

Many posters here see it every FN year.. but it’s all about WR and QB and ANYTHING, but dominating the OL and protecting the QB or running at will, like tge lions did.
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