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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:44:05 AM   
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Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:44:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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I said it three weeks ago and I'll say it again. The offensive line will be the eventual undoing of this team. You could see it coming. Aaron Glenn exposed them last weekend and McVay copied the script on Monday night.

Having said that, I am no longer all-in on Kevin O'Connell. He made zero adjustments to the offense between last week and this week. Just thought he could roll out the same game plan that he had all season and win. With no running game and little protection, he kept running the same routes and never made adjustments. The only successes they had was when they went underneath, and seemingly every drive he would go away from it at some point.

Whether Darnold is back in Minnesota next season or not, this team is not winning anything special until they resolve the issues up front. McCarthy? Good luck! Daniel Jones? Good luck! I see 7-8 wins next season, at-best, if the problems on the o-line are not corrected. They got everything they could have asked for, and then some, out of Sam Darnold. If they move on, and I expect they will (because he'll be the scapegoat), it doesn't solve the main problem.

I'm not sure I'd trust o'connell leading a group of Webelos in a highly contested game of capture the flag.


I don't agree....of the last 3 teams which one had an over abundance of talent? He has coached up the team......they need to add talent.

I disagree. Big games these last 2 weeks he looks lost. Where was the urgency in the entire 2nd half? I saw a guy who was in over his head and quit.


You do checks at the line and after being sacked 7 times he was like punch drunk Rocky. Jones must not have been able to call the plays---I would have made the switch at half time.

KOC tried nothing. Exactly. Then they tried to just run out the clock.


They tried the game before and same result after 3.5 quarters this game. There was a tweet from Kevin Seifert from ESPN research half way thru the 3rd quarter about how bad Sam was playing.....this was his second worst game next to last week of the season.

In losses over the past eight days to the Rams and the Detroit Lions, he threw a combined 23 off-target throws, according to ESPN Research, and took a total of 11 sacks -- including nine Monday night.

13 last week, 10 this week (off target passes).

So why keep him in the game then? You can't absolve the coach for showing up ill-prepared for 2 big weeks in a row. He looked lost on the sidelines.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:45:44 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.


Umm No. Mahomes thinks quick on his feet and makes the checks. Sam is not good at that (checks, or quick on his feet and he also doesn't read the field as well).

You can see it with Stafford also....he checked 3 times once and called TO. Sam check down once on one play and took the big sack by snapping it at zero. Same thing on the fumble recovery TD.---should have called a TO.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:46:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.

Exactly. I was never for paying him in the first place. It's a luxury we can't afford when both lines are in need of huge attention.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:46:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:46:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said it three weeks ago and I'll say it again. The offensive line will be the eventual undoing of this team. You could see it coming. Aaron Glenn exposed them last weekend and McVay copied the script on Monday night.

Having said that, I am no longer all-in on Kevin O'Connell. He made zero adjustments to the offense between last week and this week. Just thought he could roll out the same game plan that he had all season and win. With no running game and little protection, he kept running the same routes and never made adjustments. The only successes they had was when they went underneath, and seemingly every drive he would go away from it at some point.

Whether Darnold is back in Minnesota next season or not, this team is not winning anything special until they resolve the issues up front. McCarthy? Good luck! Daniel Jones? Good luck! I see 7-8 wins next season, at-best, if the problems on the o-line are not corrected. They got everything they could have asked for, and then some, out of Sam Darnold. If they move on, and I expect they will (because he'll be the scapegoat), it doesn't solve the main problem.

I'm not sure I'd trust o'connell leading a group of Webelos in a highly contested game of capture the flag.


I don't agree....of the last 3 teams which one had an over abundance of talent? He has coached up the team......they need to add talent.

I disagree. Big games these last 2 weeks he looks lost. Where was the urgency in the entire 2nd half? I saw a guy who was in over his head and quit.


You do checks at the line and after being sacked 7 times he was like punch drunk Rocky. Jones must not have been able to call the plays---I would have made the switch at half time.

KOC tried nothing. Exactly. Then they tried to just run out the clock.


They tried the game before and same result after 3.5 quarters this game. There was a tweet from Kevin Seifert from ESPN research half way thru the 3rd quarter about how bad Sam was playing.....this was his second worst game next to last week of the season.

In losses over the past eight days to the Rams and the Detroit Lions, he threw a combined 23 off-target throws, according to ESPN Research, and took a total of 11 sacks -- including nine Monday night.

13 last week, 10 this week (off target passes).

So why keep him in the game then? You can't absolve the coach for showing up ill-prepared for 2 big weeks in a row. He looked lost on the sidelines.

Exactly. He looked like he was back in elementary school compared to McVay. I texted my buddy midway through the first quarter and said it's over. I could already see the writing on the wall. Ate dinner in the third quarter, because I had no interest.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:47:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:48:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said it three weeks ago and I'll say it again. The offensive line will be the eventual undoing of this team. You could see it coming. Aaron Glenn exposed them last weekend and McVay copied the script on Monday night.

Having said that, I am no longer all-in on Kevin O'Connell. He made zero adjustments to the offense between last week and this week. Just thought he could roll out the same game plan that he had all season and win. With no running game and little protection, he kept running the same routes and never made adjustments. The only successes they had was when they went underneath, and seemingly every drive he would go away from it at some point.

Whether Darnold is back in Minnesota next season or not, this team is not winning anything special until they resolve the issues up front. McCarthy? Good luck! Daniel Jones? Good luck! I see 7-8 wins next season, at-best, if the problems on the o-line are not corrected. They got everything they could have asked for, and then some, out of Sam Darnold. If they move on, and I expect they will (because he'll be the scapegoat), it doesn't solve the main problem.

I'm not sure I'd trust o'connell leading a group of Webelos in a highly contested game of capture the flag.


I don't agree....of the last 3 teams which one had an over abundance of talent? He has coached up the team......they need to add talent.

I disagree. Big games these last 2 weeks he looks lost. Where was the urgency in the entire 2nd half? I saw a guy who was in over his head and quit.


You do checks at the line and after being sacked 7 times he was like punch drunk Rocky. Jones must not have been able to call the plays---I would have made the switch at half time.

KOC tried nothing. Exactly. Then they tried to just run out the clock.


They tried the game before and same result after 3.5 quarters this game. There was a tweet from Kevin Seifert from ESPN research half way thru the 3rd quarter about how bad Sam was playing.....this was his second worst game next to last week of the season.

In losses over the past eight days to the Rams and the Detroit Lions, he threw a combined 23 off-target throws, according to ESPN Research, and took a total of 11 sacks -- including nine Monday night.

13 last week, 10 this week (off target passes).

So why keep him in the game then? You can't absolve the coach for showing up ill-prepared for 2 big weeks in a row. He looked lost on the sidelines.

Exactly. He looked like he was back in elementary school compared to McVay. I texted my buddy midway through the first quarter and said it's over. I could already see the writing on the wall. Ate dinner in the third quarter, because I had no interest.


The coach didn't miss on 23 throws in 2 games, take 11 sacks, and make the correct or incorrect checks at the line.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:49:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said it three weeks ago and I'll say it again. The offensive line will be the eventual undoing of this team. You could see it coming. Aaron Glenn exposed them last weekend and McVay copied the script on Monday night.

Having said that, I am no longer all-in on Kevin O'Connell. He made zero adjustments to the offense between last week and this week. Just thought he could roll out the same game plan that he had all season and win. With no running game and little protection, he kept running the same routes and never made adjustments. The only successes they had was when they went underneath, and seemingly every drive he would go away from it at some point.

Whether Darnold is back in Minnesota next season or not, this team is not winning anything special until they resolve the issues up front. McCarthy? Good luck! Daniel Jones? Good luck! I see 7-8 wins next season, at-best, if the problems on the o-line are not corrected. They got everything they could have asked for, and then some, out of Sam Darnold. If they move on, and I expect they will (because he'll be the scapegoat), it doesn't solve the main problem.

I'm not sure I'd trust o'connell leading a group of Webelos in a highly contested game of capture the flag.


I don't agree....of the last 3 teams which one had an over abundance of talent? He has coached up the team......they need to add talent.

I disagree. Big games these last 2 weeks he looks lost. Where was the urgency in the entire 2nd half? I saw a guy who was in over his head and quit.


You do checks at the line and after being sacked 7 times he was like punch drunk Rocky. Jones must not have been able to call the plays---I would have made the switch at half time.

KOC tried nothing. Exactly. Then they tried to just run out the clock.


They tried the game before and same result after 3.5 quarters this game. There was a tweet from Kevin Seifert from ESPN research half way thru the 3rd quarter about how bad Sam was playing.....this was his second worst game next to last week of the season.

In losses over the past eight days to the Rams and the Detroit Lions, he threw a combined 23 off-target throws, according to ESPN Research, and took a total of 11 sacks -- including nine Monday night.

13 last week, 10 this week (off target passes).

So why keep him in the game then? You can't absolve the coach for showing up ill-prepared for 2 big weeks in a row. He looked lost on the sidelines.

Exactly. He looked like he was back in elementary school compared to McVay. I texted my buddy midway through the first quarter and said it's over. I could already see the writing on the wall. Ate dinner in the third quarter, because I had no interest.


The coach didn't miss on 23 throws in 2 games, take 11 sacks, and make the correct or incorrect checks at the line.

Good luck with JJ McCarthy as your quarterback, because I'll be here reminding you of it every week.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:50:30 AM   
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Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:51:29 AM   
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And for what it is worth, that was a bad football game all around. Neither team looked worth a shit.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:51:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said it three weeks ago and I'll say it again. The offensive line will be the eventual undoing of this team. You could see it coming. Aaron Glenn exposed them last weekend and McVay copied the script on Monday night.

Having said that, I am no longer all-in on Kevin O'Connell. He made zero adjustments to the offense between last week and this week. Just thought he could roll out the same game plan that he had all season and win. With no running game and little protection, he kept running the same routes and never made adjustments. The only successes they had was when they went underneath, and seemingly every drive he would go away from it at some point.

Whether Darnold is back in Minnesota next season or not, this team is not winning anything special until they resolve the issues up front. McCarthy? Good luck! Daniel Jones? Good luck! I see 7-8 wins next season, at-best, if the problems on the o-line are not corrected. They got everything they could have asked for, and then some, out of Sam Darnold. If they move on, and I expect they will (because he'll be the scapegoat), it doesn't solve the main problem.

I'm not sure I'd trust o'connell leading a group of Webelos in a highly contested game of capture the flag.


I don't agree....of the last 3 teams which one had an over abundance of talent? He has coached up the team......they need to add talent.

I disagree. Big games these last 2 weeks he looks lost. Where was the urgency in the entire 2nd half? I saw a guy who was in over his head and quit.


You do checks at the line and after being sacked 7 times he was like punch drunk Rocky. Jones must not have been able to call the plays---I would have made the switch at half time.

KOC tried nothing. Exactly. Then they tried to just run out the clock.


They tried the game before and same result after 3.5 quarters this game. There was a tweet from Kevin Seifert from ESPN research half way thru the 3rd quarter about how bad Sam was playing.....this was his second worst game next to last week of the season.

In losses over the past eight days to the Rams and the Detroit Lions, he threw a combined 23 off-target throws, according to ESPN Research, and took a total of 11 sacks -- including nine Monday night.

13 last week, 10 this week (off target passes).

So why keep him in the game then? You can't absolve the coach for showing up ill-prepared for 2 big weeks in a row. He looked lost on the sidelines.

Exactly. He looked like he was back in elementary school compared to McVay. I texted my buddy midway through the first quarter and said it's over. I could already see the writing on the wall. Ate dinner in the third quarter, because I had no interest.


The coach didn't miss on 23 throws in 2 games, take 11 sacks, and make the correct or incorrect checks at the line.

Good luck with JJ McCarthy as your quarterback, because I'll be here reminding you of it every week.


Look at all my posts...JJM will be one of 2 QBs next year.....JJM/Jones and/or now maybe JJM/Darnold.

I am as high on JJM next year as I was on Darnold going into the year. Have 2 QBs.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/14/2025 7:53:57 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:54:08 AM   
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And for what it is worth, that was a bad football game all around. Neither team looked worth a shit.

The only game worth watching was the Washington game. Tons of terrible football.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:54:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

It's one thing to play well against inferior teams. It's another to beat a team in the playoffs when they just received the script how to beat you.

Sam Darnold has weaknesses. Those weaknesses were also what won this team 14 games this season (holding on to the ball and pressing the ball down field). The coach has to be smart enough to recognize it and make adjustments. He wasn't and he didn't.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:54:40 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

Scapegoat?

He is a deer in the headlights, wall flower, wilting Willy, sloth field reader, tunnel vision, crutch needing, drop back and take a 15yard sack, stat queen.. just… like.. KFC..

I wouldn’t sign him for vet minimum..

I’m so glad we are not paying him a ****ing dime going forward..

He S U C K S!…..
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:55:35 AM   
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Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

So Darnold is the leader but absolve KOC of all leadership responsibilities? He was terrible yesterday and last week.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 7:55:58 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

Scapegoat?

He is a deer in the headlights, wall flower, wilting Willy, sloth field reader, tunnel vision, crutch needing, drop back and take a 15yard sack, stat queen.. just… like.. KFC..

I wouldn’t sign him for vet minimum..

I’m so glad we are not paying him a ****ing dime going forward..

He S U C K S!…..

Just quit with the hyperbolic, 13-year-old speak. You sound like a bitter juvenile. Talk like an adult, and I'll be willing to have a conversation. If not, you can talk to yourself.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 1/14/2025 7:56:59 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:00:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

It's one thing to play well against inferior teams. It's another to beat a team in the playoffs when they just received the script how to beat you.

Sam Darnold has weaknesses. Those weaknesses were also what won this team 14 games this season (holding on to the ball and pressing the ball down field). The coach has to be smart enough to recognize it and make adjustments. He wasn't and he didn't.

Give it up, Brad.. he is gone., and you are gonna have your chance to trash talk JjM, all season long.. after 8 months of a shit show off season…

No draft picks, almost 30 Free agents, multiple injured players, and a management that treats draft picks like low value trash to be given away for shit like Hockenson, Cine, and Booth..

Yea, that was smart..


Darnold is gone, girl.. get the panties out of your ass, and move on…
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:01:05 AM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

So Darnold is the leader but absolve KOC of all leadership responsibilities? He was terrible yesterday and last week.


Terrible? He calls plays that they don't execute. Sam missed on 23 throws over 2 games!!!! You can't recover from that poor of QB play. Mullens or Jones wouldn't have done any better either.

You wanted KOC to hurry up so Sam could get hot? There wasn't any fixing it (Same as Herbert and Wilson).....

This wasn't Randall Cunningham and we were down two scores.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:01:37 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:02:43 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

So Darnold is the leader but absolve KOC of all leadership responsibilities? He was terrible yesterday and last week.


Terrible? He calls plays that they don't execute. Sam missed on 23 throws over 2 games!!!! You can't recover from that poor of QB play. Mullens or Jones wouldn't have done any better either.

You wanted KOC to hurry up so Sam could get hot? There wasn't any fixing it (Same as Herbert and Wilson).....

He could try Mullens. Heck that may have been entertaining. But I get it. It's everyone else's fault except the golden boy.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:03:14 AM   
Brad H


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

It's one thing to play well against inferior teams. It's another to beat a team in the playoffs when they just received the script how to beat you.

Sam Darnold has weaknesses. Those weaknesses were also what won this team 14 games this season (holding on to the ball and pressing the ball down field). The coach has to be smart enough to recognize it and make adjustments. He wasn't and he didn't.

Give it up, Brad.. he is gone., and you are gonna have your chance to trash talk JjM, all season long.. after 8 months of a shit show off season…

No draft picks, almost 30 Free agents, multiple injured players, and a management that treats draft picks like low value trash to be given away for shit like Hockenson, Cine, and Booth..

Yea, that was smart..


Darnold is gone, girl.. get the panties out of your ass, and move on…

You were so close to an adult-like post. And then..........

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:04:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Addison balls out more than Jefferson.

Doubt we can build around that. Might only have one more year with him before he presses for a trade.

Addison kept fighting. Can't say the same for Mr all style no substance.

It's why your team should never be led by divas. Get it right up front and have the ability to be balanced. That's the recipe for success in the NFL. Watch Kansas City. Watch Baltimore. Watch Buffalo. Watch Philly. Watch Detroit. None of them have to rely on divas to win.

The Vikings offense is diva-centric. It's not a winning formula when it matters.


Its all excuses....you live and die by QB play. Sam was exposed last 2 games.

I don't think anyone will deny that Sam Darnold has weaknesses. If that's your main argument today, save it. But not recognizing all the other issues on this team is ignorant and naive.


They play as their QB has played....he is their leader. You know when the 14-3 QB plays well they win and when he plays his 2 worst games they lose.

So Darnold is the leader but absolve KOC of all leadership responsibilities? He was terrible yesterday and last week.


Terrible? He calls plays that they don't execute. Sam missed on 23 throws over 2 games!!!! You can't recover from that poor of QB play. Mullens or Jones wouldn't have done any better either.

You wanted KOC to hurry up so Sam could get hot? There wasn't any fixing it (Same as Herbert and Wilson).....

He could try Mullens. Heck that may have been entertaining. But I get it. It's everyone else's fault except the golden boy.

Exactly. If Darnold was the only problem, why not go to the backup in the second quarter?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:04:34 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.


You mean what you have done with Kirk for say the 7 years he was here? It isn't emotional or childish.....it is proof from ESPN Research.
It is emotional or childish to not see the 2 qbs out there last night. One making the line checks and hot routes and making the throws and not taking the sacks....the other was Sam.

Baker made one mistake and cost TB the game---he would say so himself.....how many mistakes did Sam make last night?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:05:39 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.

One side of the ball, although not great, only allowed 20 points. The other allowed 7 and scored 9. Special teams as always did absolutely nothing. Which side of the ball does KOC leave alone? The one that actually did a good enough job to win. But some will never ditch the Golden Boy.
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