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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.

KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??

Mullens?

That's a very well reasoned response.

I don't think they could get Jones ready.....they knew Sam was their best shot.

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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

KOC is the guy that needs to have the team prepared. It's natural that the leader and CEO of the team gets blamed when they show up sloppy drunk on offense.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.

KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??

Mullens?

That's a very well reasoned response.

I don't think they could get Jones ready.....they knew Sam was their best shot.

Their best shot was a guy having trouble letting go of the ball? I don't know Phil. I'd rather him let it rip and throw picks. Jefferson didn't do him any favors either if we're being honest.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

KOC is the guy that needs to have the team prepared. It's natural that the leader and CEO of the team gets blamed when they show up sloppy drunk on offense.

Exactly. And they looked completely unprepared. If he didn't think McVay was going to watch the film from the Detroit game and copy the script he is wildly unprepared to be a head coach in the NFL. From what I saw last night, he looked completely unprepared.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.

KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??

Mullens?

That's a very well reasoned response.

I don't think they could get Jones ready.....they knew Sam was their best shot.

Their best shot was a guy having trouble letting go of the ball? I don't know Phil. I'd rather him let it rip and throw picks. Jefferson didn't do him any favors either if we're being honest.

They weren't coming back with Mullens....he might hold a lead but down 17-3?

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You know why they didn't go to Mullins? For the same reason they started Darnold to start the season. He was the best option. And he won 14 games.

You can't win against good teams if you have a major deficiency like our offensive line and don't know how to adjust or make alterations.

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You know why they didn't go to Mullins? For the same reason they started Darnold to start the season. He was the best option. And he won 14 games.

You can't win against good teams if you have a major deficiency like our offensive line and don't know how to adjust or make alterations.

Oline has been bad at times all year....his performance the last 2 weeks was worse than the Oline's performance. You can use them as a scapegoat too.

Sam changes the plays, blocking schemes, and count before the snap. It isn't just the sacks or poor throws. His line checks are supposed to give him time to release the ball in 2.5-3 seconds not 4-6.

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You know why they didn't go to Mullins? For the same reason they started Darnold to start the season. He was the best option. And he won 14 games.

You can't win against good teams if you have a major deficiency like our offensive line and don't know how to adjust or make alterations.

Oline has been bad at times all year....his performance the last 2 weeks was worse than the Oline's performance. You can use them as a scapegoat too.

Sam changes the plays, blocking schemes, and count before the snap. It isn't just the sacks or poor throws. His line checks are supposed to give him time to release the ball in 2.5-3 seconds not 4-6.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

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Kansas City also has a terrible offensive line. Their quarterback is great, but not having a great season. Wanna know why they have won 16 games? Their coach knows how to make adjustments, control the clock and play smart. That's why he has a bunch of Lombardi Trophies.

The Chiefs have no divas at wide receiver. They take what the other team gives them and keep it close with good defense. Then, they strike when they have to. The guys understand their roles.

The Vikings are all about style points and jersey sales. Been that way since they played outdoors.

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Kansas City also has a terrible offensive line. Their quarterback is great, but not having a great season. Wanna know why they have won 16 games? Their coach knows how to make adjustments, control the clock and play smart. That's why he has a bunch of Lombardi Trophies.

The Chiefs have no divas at wide receiver. They take what the other team gives them and keep it close with good defense. Then, they strike when they have to. The guys understand their roles.

The Vikings are all about style points and jersey sales. Been that way since they played outdoors.

BS

Very solid OLine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

Again that was concerning Sam's contract. You think they should Franchise Tag him now?

KOC wanted to win the game but they are all in for 2025---2024 was a restock but they did better than I expected.....tons of cap $$$.

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At the end of the day, this is a terrible offensive line. I think we can all agree on that.

If the Vikings are going to turn the ball over to McCarthy, Jones or quarterback X, they had better get a lot better up front.

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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

Scapegoat?

He is a deer in the headlights, wall flower, wilting Willy, sloth field reader, tunnel vision, crutch needing, drop back and take a 15yard sack, stat queen.. just… like.. KFC..

I wouldn’t sign him for vet minimum..

I’m so glad we are not paying him a ****ing dime going forward..

He S U C K S!…..

Just quit with the hyperbolic, 13-year-old speak. You sound like a bitter juvenile. Talk like an adult, and I'll be willing to have a conversation. If not, you can talk to yourself.

hyperbole?

I stand by my evaluation of SD because his “ 14 wins” .. were against the trash teams on our schedule…

Rams? Nope..

Detroit?

Nope..

What teams are still in the playoffs?

GB?

Nope..
Vikes? Nope..

14 wins.. and one and done..

Go masterbate in a corner with your waifu, SD boddy pillow, while the real adults discuss how to fix this mess, without a dipshit at QB…..Darnold GAVE UP 82 yards and 14 points on turnover, all by himself..

Sam sloth, single handedly LOST THE GAME..

BLOCK me..
Like I give a ****..

LOL. You're just incapable of it. It's almost funny to watch a guy melt down right in front of me. You look like the Vikings last night! I put a little pressure on you to be an adult and you can't do it.

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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

Again that was concerning Sam's contract. You think they should Franchise Tag him now?

KOC wanted to win the game but they are all in for 2025---2024 was a restock but they did better than I expected.....tons of cap $$$.

What team is going to pay Sam big $$$? And have success.

Maybe Pittsburgh. And they might want to go through the draft instead of old retreads.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

Again that was concerning Sam's contract. You think they should Franchise Tag him now?

KOC wanted to win the game but they are all in for 2025---2024 was a restock but they did better than I expected.....tons of cap $$$.

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At the end of the day, this is a terrible offensive line. I think we can all agree on that.

If the Vikings are going to turn the ball over to McCarthy, Jones or quarterback X, they had better get a lot better up front.

This I agree on. We can't run the football. Can't get one yard when we need it. When we play good teams we lose the battle in the trenches.

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Only the Vikings can turn a feel good season into a bitter ending.

I've never seen a QB do a 180 so fast. The only saving grace is it happened before they spent any appreciable money on him.
But he folded, jittery, indecisive, inaccurate. An unfortunate ending to a great regular season.
Sam looked like he corrected it all, but the big moments were just too big for him unfortunately, and he showed he's just not built for a QB1

So now we put our faith into winner in college, with probably better physical ability than given credit for, yet we have not idea how his skills convert to pro ball.

It was it is. The reality is the next 2 years will determine KOC and KAM fate. I'd give them both 1 year extensions, and that's it.

We have many of the same problems we had when KAM came in. IOL, IDL and CBs. 3 years, he's failed to fix any of them.
The one thing he's done well is the cap, and luckily they have some cap money to help fix. (BTW - I've heard Tre Smith G, l looked an of course a 6th round pick by KC, God what I'd give their personnel department).

Draft, college personnel continues to be a major question. Is this KAMs fault or the scouting/personnel department or combination of both? Can't keep having these drafts and relying on FA. He's making me miss Spielman quite frankly.

I'm worried if Flores leaves, what happens to this D, a lot of hybrid players kind of built for this system.

Murphy is about the only current FA, I'd prioritize. He's worth 1 more contract. I wouldn't sign Bynum, way too much money for a guy who is more flash than any real substance. Concentrate on IOL and IDL.

Has JJ lost a step? Seems like he can't beat man coverage, not like he's playing vs Lester Hayes out there. Did Glenn expose Addison and JJ a bit with just playing press man on them? Both really struggled with separation at the end.

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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

Again that was concerning Sam's contract. You think they should Franchise Tag him now?

KOC wanted to win the game but they are all in for 2025---2024 was a restock but they did better than I expected.....tons of cap $$$.

All depends on what they do up front. They can win with him, but not with the current make-up up front. The script has been written on how to beat them. Every defensive coordinator in the league was watching, and it's apparent that our coach is youthful and inexperienced to make the necessary adjustments.

My hunch is that they will not retain him. The fans are too simplistic in their approach to the game and will demand that McCarthy plays. Then, when they win seven games next season they will go head-hunting for O'Connell. It's a vicious cycle of incompetence.

Once you get to the playoffs, it's hard to hide weaknesses. We saw a lot of them last night. It wasn't just Darnold. There was a lot of crappy football all around.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M
Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC.

I'm just quoting past conversations. You said all week that winning in the playoffs is all that matters as it relates to Darnold. Funny how the story changes when it's the coach. I never expected to win this game.

Again that was concerning Sam's contract. You think they should Franchise Tag him now?

KOC wanted to win the game but they are all in for 2025---2024 was a restock but they did better than I expected.....tons of cap $$$.

All depends on what they do up front. They can win with him, but not with the current make-up up front. The script has been written on how to beat them. Every defensive coordinator in the league was watching, and it's apparent that our coach is youthful and inexperienced to make the necessary adjustments.

My hunch is that they will not retain him. The fans are too simplistic in their approach to the game and will demand that McCarthy plays. Then, when they win seven games next season they will go head-hunting for O'Connell. It's a vicious cycle of incompetence.