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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Alright, so with the FA signings we now need the following starting positions:

QB
LG
WR3
DE
DE (Lowry stays?)

CB really needs an upgrade.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

Agree on Howell.

I am cautiously optimistic about Darnold.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Doubtful the Vikings win it all last year if Cousins stayed healthy, the defense showed too many holes against experienced QBs.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

Agree on Howell.

I am cautiously optimistic about Darnold.

I am totally fine with Darnold for a year....or half year if they draft a QB. We should have started this process four years ago.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

Agree on Howell.

I am cautiously optimistic about Darnold.

I am totally fine with Darnold for a year....or half year if they draft a QB. We should have started this process four years ago.

I couldn't agree more. I've said it many times. We should be drafting a QB nearly every single year alternating high and low pick. Most important position in sports, gotta keep grabbing them until you find one that is really good, then start drafting his potential replacement.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.

Agree on Howell.

I am cautiously optimistic about Darnold.

I am totally fine with Darnold for a year....or half year if they draft a QB. We should have started this process four years ago.

I couldn't agree more. I've said it many times. We should be drafting a QB nearly every single year alternating high and low pick. Most important position in sports, gotta keep grabbing them until you find one that is really good, then start drafting his potential replacement.

I would have stopped paying him the day he opted to not get vaccinated, thus putting himself and his political beliefs before the good of the team. The quarterback needs to be a leader. They were paying him to be a leader.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Alright, so with the FA signings we now need the following starting positions:

QB
LG
WR3
DE
DE (Lowry stays?)

CB really needs an upgrade.

Looks quite a bit better now but also what restructures are left and what cap is left for FA period. Twitter says we are the highest dead cap so taking the pain in 2024 to clear out by 2025/26

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Its a good start but just a start. I feel pretty good about the tampering period.

Kwesi’s best move is swallowing the dead money whole. Moving on from Cousins/Hunter (intentionally or not) feels like the welfare of the franchise has been put first … in fron’t of the coaching staff’s and the owner’s focus on sustaining a happy medium.

It feels like we just voted out a repressive regime (we had nothing to do with it) that makes healthcare and food cheap to hide the grim reality of no real happiness.

If we struggle now (in the short term - we’re not a patient group) … at least the struggle will feel like a build or rebuild that doesn’t have a dead end already built into it.

I wish Hunter well and even great success, ‘as long as your interests dont conflict with my interests.’

Cousins … he’s a world class taker … a shark in sanctimonious sheep’s clothing … I wish him well in his personal life but I hope he bites the big one as a Falcon. There are so many more well-deserving people in the world.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

My dream scenario is that the Vikings break the "Cousins Curse" and lose to him in the regular season at some point over the next four years and then go on to win the Super Bowl. That being said, the "Cousins Curse" technically got broken last season with San Fran going to the Super Bowl. That also being said, the "Cousins Curse" was mostly a meaningless thing to begin with. "No team that lost to Kirk Cousins in the regular season has ever gone on to make the Super Bowl." Well gee whiz, when you only beat ten winning teams over the course of six seasons or 14 over the course of 12 seasons (not positive that's the exact number but if not correct it's close) it's hardly surprising that none of your defeated winning teams make the Super Bowl - the eligible sample was tiny. Yeah - that one winning team we beat that year never made the Super Bowl - COUSINS CURSE! Laughable.

All that being said I hope the Vikings break the new curse which was just a moving of the goal posts anyway.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Its a good start but just a start. I feel pretty good about the tampering period.

Kwesi’s best move is swallowing the dead money whole. Moving on from Cousins/Hunter (intentionally or not) feels like the welfare of the franchise has been put first … in fron’t of the coaching staff’s and the owner’s focus on sustaining a happy medium.

It feels like we just voted out a repressive regime (we had nothing to do with it) that makes healthcare and food cheap to hide the grim reality of no real happiness.

If we struggle now (in the short term - we’re not a patient group) … at least the struggle will feel like a build or rebuild that doesn’t have a dead end already built into it.

I wish Hunter well and even great success, ‘as long as your interests dont conflict with my interests.’

Cousins … he’s a world class taker … a shark in sanctimonious sheep’s clothing … I wish him well in his personal life but I hope he bites the big one as a Falcon. There are so many more well-deserving people in the world.

If that's Kwesi's best move, it's a non-move that happened because the NFL said he had to. Kwesi's M.O would make Visa proud.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Its a good start but just a start. I feel pretty good about the tampering period.

Kwesi’s best move is swallowing the dead money whole. Moving on from Cousins/Hunter (intentionally or not) feels like the welfare of the franchise has been put first … in fron’t of the coaching staff’s and the owner’s focus on sustaining a happy medium.

It feels like we just voted out a repressive regime (we had nothing to do with it) that makes healthcare and food cheap to hide the grim reality of no real happiness.

If we struggle now (in the short term - we’re not a patient group) … at least the struggle will feel like a build or rebuild that doesn’t have a dead end already built into it.

I wish Hunter well and even great success, ‘as long as your interests dont conflict with my interests.’

Cousins … he’s a world class taker … a shark in sanctimonious sheep’s clothing … I wish him well in his personal life but I hope he bites the big one as a Falcon. There are so many more well-deserving people in the world.

If that's Kwesi's best move, it's a non-move that happened because the NFL said he had to. Kwesi's M.O would make Visa proud.

Not necessarily. They could have extended both players last year and altered our course this year.

Maybe we simply couldn't meet the extension demands of either player last year. I don't know ... to me, it felt more like we didn't than couldn't.

This offseason it certainly felt like we couldn't.

Whatever formula they have been operating under ... year one and two felt like spreading that medicine out ... our approach this offseason has felt more like a reckoning.

Again, intentional or not.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Alright, so with the FA signings we now need the following starting positions:

QB
LG
WR3
DE
DE (Lowry stays?)

CB really needs an upgrade.

Looks quite a bit better now but also what restructures are left and what cap is left for FA period. Twitter says we are the highest dead cap so taking the pain in 2024 to clear out by 2025/26

That list looks quite a bit better now? I don't know when all the accounting, err smoke & mirror magic, gets done.

And Kwesi didn't ELECT to take the pain now. Because Cousins, Hunter, and Davenport are (will be) gone, NFL rules say we HAVE to eat all the cap from all their void years today at 3:00 CST.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

Doubtful the Vikings win it all last year if Cousins stayed healthy, the defense showed too many holes against experienced QBs.

Cousins was 4-4 when he got hurt. Dobbs was 2-2 (pretty much without Jefferson). Hall was 1-1. Mullens 0-3. Two absolute unknowns that will be out of the league in two years were his equal.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I see Wash signed Mariotta to be their bridge/#2 qb. So Howell looks to be available via trade.

To me I'd rather have Howell than Darnold.

Howell was awful. He regressed badly down the stretch.

I'll take Darnold any day of the week. Sam Darnold is an experienced veteran that has been on awful football teams. This will be the most offensive talent he has ever had around him (as a starter). He'll be fine for a stop-gap. He isn't the future, but neither was Cousins.