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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 8:08:19 AM   
Brad H


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Again, no reason for hyperbole. I only said the only drive that mattered was the last drive of the first half and it was a missed opportunity.



A great example of hyperbole...

That was my opinion.

A great example of hyperbole would be; is McCarthy closer to a bust right now or a hall of famer?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 8:11:25 AM   
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Joe Mauer went on to be a first-ballot HOFer.

Joe Mauer has run about the same amount of two-minute offense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 9:17:29 AM   
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Again, no reason for hyperbole. I only said the only drive that mattered was the last drive of the first half and it was a missed opportunity.



A great example of hyperbole...

That was my opinion.

A great example of hyperbole would be; is McCarthy closer to a bust right now or a hall of famer?

Most lame opinions are hyperbole.

The shoe fit. Wear it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:00:23 PM   
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There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.


Id still like to know, with regard to this discussion we are continuing to have, if you watched the game, or that sequence of plays, before you posted.

Whether he's had little experience or not wouldn't have anything to do with whether he'll be great at it or not, imo. Twenty-one years old and he's either got it or he doesnt. The ability to make the plays on a game-crucial drive is similar to whether you want to take the last shot or you'd rather pass it off. I don't see the kid passing it off, but we'll see.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:30:43 PM   
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We should know enough now how the universe works.

Don’t get your hopes up.

Wouldn’t surprise if Darnold goes down soon too.


The NFL is a tough business to be in!


Being a Vikings fan is a tough business to be in, too...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:49:16 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:51:14 PM   
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There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.


Id still like to know, with regard to this discussion we are continuing to have, if you watched the game, or that sequence of plays, before you posted.

Whether he's had little experience or not wouldn't have anything to do with whether he'll be great at it or not, imo. Twenty-one years old and he's either got it or he doesnt. The ability to make the plays on a game-crucial drive is similar to whether you want to take the last shot or you'd rather pass it off. I don't see the kid passing it off, but we'll see.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:51:39 PM   
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JJM out for the year.


Figures
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:54:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		So will they have a bridge QB in 2025 while they continue their careful and methodical grooming plan for McCarthy?

From McMoxie to McMeniscus just like that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:58:29 PM   
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So will they have a bridge QB in 2025 while they continue their careful and methodical grooming plan for McCarthy?

From McMoxie to McMeniscus just like that.

Which quarterback are we drafting next season?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 12:59:12 PM   
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Sucks for the millions of Vikes fans around the world living their best life.

I’ll try and stay sober.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 1:43:30 PM   
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Football Gods have it out for us. Keep teasing us with greatness and then taking it away.

****ers.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 1:51:41 PM   
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So will they have a bridge QB in 2025 while they continue their careful and methodical grooming plan for McCarthy?

From McMoxie to McMeniscus just like that.

Which quarterback are we drafting next season?

Bucs need a QB?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 1:53:12 PM   
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Ugh. JJ out for year. Why do I ever get my hopes up?

Football Gods have it out for us. Keep teasing us with greatness and then taking it away.

****ers.


I felt that way when Terry Allen wrecked his knee in preseason. Nowadays, I just kind of expect our nice things to break before we get them out of the gift wrap.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 2:12:52 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 2:43:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only positive of JJM being out is Darnold has no pressure on him now. He'll get a full year to show if he can make without the pressure of JJM replacing him if we start off slow.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:16:45 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:22:34 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:25:07 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:25:10 PM   
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So, today's Vikings news:

- J.J. McCarthy out for season
- Jordan Addison taken off on a cart
- Sam Darnold starts 1/12 with a pick in joint practices
- Thayer Thomas went down hard too

Other than that, it's been good?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:33:40 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:35:48 PM   
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Id love to see an A+ coaching job out of KOC.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 3:55:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, JJ being out for the year doesn’t really impact his career path much, as I stated in an earlier post. For 2024 however it does impact QB depth. If Darnold goes down, or let’s face it just sucks, a definite possibility, previously we could just stick JJ in, start the clock on him and let him take his lumps. Now we’re suddenly repeating the QB carousel of last year. Whee! What fun.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 4:19:19 PM   
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So will they have a bridge QB in 2025 while they continue their careful and methodical grooming plan for McCarthy?

From McMoxie to McMeniscus just like that.

Which quarterback are we drafting next season?

Bucs need a QB?


Have to admit... that is an instant classic slapdown beatdown post!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/14/2024 4:20:47 PM   
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The only positive of JJM being out is Darnold has no pressure on him now. He'll get a full year to show if he can make without the pressure of JJM replacing him if we start off slow.


Pfff. Any QB with confidence and talent ignores that. But yeah, it probably applies in this case.
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