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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/29/2024 7:19:51 PM

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I think Randle is a short timer. 1 year, make the best of him. The real return is DiVincenzo and the salary freed up when Randle departs.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 7:17:00 AM

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I think Randle is a short timer. 1 year, make the best of him. The real return is DiVincenzo and the salary freed up when Randle departs.

He performed really well for the NYK last year in the playoffs and can be a backup PG when needed. As Skor North stated he is a playoff dawg---which is what KAT struggled with except for a couple of games.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 8:56:21 AM

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I think Randle is a short timer. 1 year, make the best of him. The real return is DiVincenzo and the salary freed up when Randle departs.

He performed really well for the NYK last year in the playoffs and can be a backup PG when needed. As Skor North stated he is a playoff dawg---which is what KAT struggled with except for a couple of games.

Randle has value, certainly. But I still don’t believe the point of this trade was to get a long term contribution from him.

He’s a short timer. Just as Towns was destined to be minute Rudy arrived.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 9:10:33 AM

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I think Randle is a short timer. 1 year, make the best of him. The real return is DiVincenzo and the salary freed up when Randle departs.

He performed really well for the NYK last year in the playoffs and can be a backup PG when needed. As Skor North stated he is a playoff dawg---which is what KAT struggled with except for a couple of games.

Randle has value, certainly. But I still don’t believe the point of this trade was to get a long term contribution from him.

He’s a short timer. Just as Towns was destined to be minute Rudy arrived.

I was referring to Donte---he was the key to the trade. Backup PG who performed well for Milwaukee and NYK in the playoffs.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 9:14:20 AM

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Report: Donte DiVincenzo Didn't Like Knicks Plan

The Big Ragu is no longer simmering with the New York Knicks.

Donte DiVincenzo is heading north, as he is said to be included in the Knicks' reported blockbuster deal set to acquire Karl-Anthony Towns (h/t Shams Charania and Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic). All-Star Julius Randle appears to be departing as well with several bit players thrown in for salary stabilization.

While many Knicks fans probably made peace with dealing Randle, still bereft of a long-term contract, the inclusion of DiVincenzo is perhaps the bigger shock. The shooter was set to be part of the replenished "'Nova Knicks" alongside fellow former Villanova Wildcats Mikal Bridges, Jalen Brunson, and Josh Hart in the second season of a four-year, $46.8 million contract signed in 2023.

SNY Knicks insider Ian Begley has since reported that the Knicks "had long been opposed" to dealing DiVincenzo and the flip in logic remains a mystery. Begley hints, however, that the deal might be in the best interest of all sides considering that DiVincenzo was potentially destined for a reduced role in Manhattan.

"With the moves made this offseason, DiVincenzo was probably going to be coming off the bench this season. Bridges would likely have taken his spot in the starting lineup," Begley said. "I can say confidently that DiVincenzo didn’t exactly love the idea of playing fewer minutes/a reduced role this season. He was coming off of a career year and helped the team win a ton of games when it was shorthanded."

"I don’t think any competitor would be thrilled with the idea of taking reduced role in this situation. This is just a guess, but I don’t think the issue described above played a significant role – if any at all - in the Knicks’ decision to move DiVincenzo. They were against moving him for much of the offseason. Maybe the deadline of training camp combined with Randle’s looming contract situation and the length of Robinson’s absence made the Knicks more motivated to complete the trade."

DiVincenzo began last season as a reliever but wound up taking the Knicks' primary shooting guard duties from Quentin Grimes by early December. He went on to set a single-season record for most successful three-pointers in a single Knicks season and averaged 17.8 points during the ensuing playoff run.

With Bridges coming in, it would've been no shock to see DiVincenzo return to a sixth man's role. The 27-year-old could still find that opportunity in Minnesota, which made a long-awaited return to the Western Conference Finals last season.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:07:58 AM

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:12:03 AM

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On WCCO radio yesterday morning Dave Schwartz said Randle is at least as good as KAT. I find that hard to believe considering DL's commentary here.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:15:32 AM

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RIP Dikembe Mutombo
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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:32:18 AM

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I think Randle is a short timer. 1 year, make the best of him. The real return is DiVincenzo and the salary freed up when Randle departs.

He performed really well for the NYK last year in the playoffs and can be a backup PG when needed. As Skor North stated he is a playoff dawg---which is what KAT struggled with except for a couple of games.

Randle has value, certainly. But I still don’t believe the point of this trade was to get a long term contribution from him.

He’s a short timer. Just as Towns was destined to be minute Rudy arrived.

I was referring to Donte---he was the key to the trade. Backup PG who performed well for Milwaukee and NYK in the playoffs.

He's a SG with some secondary ballhandling ability.

He'll be the first guard off the bench and likely start alongside Ant if Conley misses any time.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:32:30 AM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 10:55:33 AM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

PA is an idiot.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 11:31:45 AM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

PA knows less about basketball than you do.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 12:53:16 PM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

PA knows less about basketball than you do.

Thanks!

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 4:38:23 PM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

I was listening and I never heard him say that. He said, among other things, Wolves got the best of trade and that the trade makes them a tougher team. But twice the player KAT is? I didn’t hear anything close to that.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 9/30/2024 4:52:06 PM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

I was listening and I never heard him say that. He said, among other things, Wolves got the best of trade and that the trade makes them a tougher team. But twice the player KAT is? I didn’t hear anything close to that.

Beginning of TWolves Fishing season for Matt.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/1/2024 8:31:04 AM

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PA just said Randle is twice the player KAT is.

I was listening and I never heard him say that. He said, among other things, Wolves got the best of trade and that the trade makes them a tougher team. But twice the player KAT is? I didn’t hear anything close to that.

Beginning of TWolves Fishing season for Matt.

Not really. Just an exaggeration.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/14/2024 1:47:49 PM

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Great. We acquired a disgruntled player.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/14/2024 2:21:11 PM

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Great. We acquired a disgruntled player.

And who did Paul Allen tell you is disgruntled?

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/14/2024 2:43:44 PM

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Great. We acquired a disgruntled player.

And who did Paul Allen tell you is disgruntled?

Donte DiVincenzo. He was jawing at the Knicks coaches during the pre-season game about getting traded to the Wolves.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/14/2024 2:53:58 PM

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Great. We acquired a disgruntled player.

And who did Paul Allen tell you is disgruntled?

Donte DiVincenzo. He was jawing at the Knicks coaches during the pre-season game about getting traded to the Wolves.

That's not what he was jawing about.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/14/2024 11:04:25 PM

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He’s been getting rave reviews from the wolves. Ant loves playing with him.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/17/2024 11:38:23 AM

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wrong thread. moved to Lynx.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/17/2024 11:49:51 AM

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I did what I almost never do last night. Watched a bit the Wolves preseason game. I wanted to see how Randle looked, mainly. Verdict from this extremely small, meaningless sample? I think it can work. He looked smart out there. Remaining in the flow of the offense, blending in well. The offense had good movement with and without the ball while he was in there. Probably more so than with Towns to be honest.

The key will be whether he buys into a team concept all year. He’ll no doubt start out as a good soldier. I just hope in the dog days of the season he doesn’t start counting shots and moping when he doesn’t get his share. If they’re winning that kind of takes care of itself. Complaining when a team is winning just comes across as selfish.

Another thing going for them is Finch seems to really like him and it seems to be mutual. That can go a long way.

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RE: Timbrwolves 2024 Off-Season and Draft - 10/17/2024 11:04:43 PM

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Didn't watch the game tonight. But they rested the entire projected starters and main rotation guys. 9 DNPs. All expected contributors. On a back to back due to rescheduling for Lynx game tomorrow. Denver played their main lineup. And the Wolves hung with them and only lost by 6. Encouraging I suppose.

Garza (of course) led the way with 29 points in 32 minutes.

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