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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/8/2009 6:32:16 PM

Matt Lang

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Would you guys trade Rubio for Roy?

Who else would be a legit trade target?

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/8/2009 6:52:02 PM

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I thought about your idea for about two seconds and I say "yes"! Roy is a proven young player. That makes him very valuable and he would complement Flynn better than Rubio would.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/10/2009 10:18:56 PM

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Would you guys trade Rubio for Roy?

Who else would be a legit trade target?

I think you have to do it.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/10/2009 10:20:47 PM

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I like Rubio, but sheesh. Brandon Roy is one of the best players in the NBA right now. Have to do that trade.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/10/2009 10:33:10 PM

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Speaking of Roy, what the hell is Pritchard doing in Portland?

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In the meantime, there are small fires all around One Center Court.

That Roy is unsigned is particularly alarming and a signal that negotiations have snagged. Word is that Roy wants to sign for the maximum allowed five years, but the Blazers only want to commit to four years. A five-year deal would cost Portland about $82 million, although it won't be determined until the 2010-11 salary cap is set.

That a player of Roy's talent and character wants to lock in his future with your club should be embraced and lauded. Instead, the team is nickel-and-diming him with the amount of years. It's bad form.

If there was ever a no-brainer in extensions, it's that of Roy. You give him the maximum contract allowed. No hesitation. No questions asked. No nothing, other than showing him the courtesy of signing him the minute the signing moratorium ended Tuesday night.

Toronto did it with former No. 1 pick Andrea Bargnani, who inked a 5-year, $50 million deal.

If Bargnani has earned that type of respect, certainly Aldridge and Roy have. Especially Roy. He has done everything asked of him on the court, where he has put himself on track to become the franchise's greatest player of all time, and off the court, becoming the team's go-to player for public appearances and community relations as well as tirelessly serving as the team's spokesman to the media.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/07/blazers_gm_pritchard_faces_sle.html

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/12/2009 8:24:30 PM

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Lake was on the radio this morning lamenting that Rubio's value for trade goes down if he plays in Spain this next season. I disagree with that. I think that there's more risk for his value going down if he plays for the Wolves this season.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/12/2009 10:02:39 PM

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Lake doesn't know what he is talking about. If Rubio continues to progress, his value is that much higher going into next year's draft. I don't see that his value goes down in Spain or the NBA way unless he regresses this year.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/12/2009 11:14:03 PM

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The word I heard on the radio (from a caller) was that if Rubio has to go against Flynn in practice, he will lose his confidence. Obviously, I don't want to believe that either, but I think that there's a better chance of that than the likelihood of laying an egg in Spain. The greater concern, though, would be that he gets himself hurt. That would mess things up plenty.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/12/2009 11:54:00 PM

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My two boys Evans and Curry had pretty good debut's in the summer league.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 12:07:04 AM

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From Bill Simmons latest mailbag ....

Q: Who would you have drafted with Minnesota's two top-six picks? What would you have done? I don't like the fact that we have seven point guards either, but we had to take Rubio even if he stays in Spain.
-- J.T., Minnesota

SG: I would have drafted Ricky Rubio at No. 5 and Stephen Curry at No. 6. Then I would have sent Rubio 10 hours of Curry tapes and told him, "Look, we're pairing you with an undersized guard with 28-foot range who could get off a 3-pointer if he were trapped in a phone booth. He's electric. You will love him. You also get to play with Al Jefferson, who's one of the best low-post players alive when healthy. And you get to play with Kevin Love, a top-10 rebounder who shoots 3s and throws outlets like Wes Unseld. It's going to be a really, really, really fun team right away. We might get killed by scoring 2-guards with size, but so be it. We'll figure that part out later. In the meantime, we want to give you the car keys and make you a star. This is your team starting today. If you want us to sign Spanish dudes as our 11th and 12th men so you have people to hang out with, we'll do that, too. We just want to make you happy. Come play with us."

Here's what I wouldn't have done: taken a second point guard (Jonny Flynn) at No. 6, then vowed to play them together. That pick was transparent -- Flynn clearly was a "here's our backup plan if we don't sign Rubio" selection. Rubio saw right through it. Now he's probably going back to Spain, and by the time he joins the NBA, David Kahn will be gone. Here's to four years of a hot-poop sundae, Wolves fans! Enjoy. Would you like whipped cream on that? How 'bout a cherry?

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 4:06:38 PM

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My two boys Evans and Curry had pretty good debut's in the summer league.

Randy Foye and Nikoloz Tskitishvilii dominated the summer league a couple of years ago. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean anything.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 4:58:40 PM

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The whole reason Bobby Brown got a contract was because he played well in the Summer League last year. Jerryd Bayless was one of the most appealing players as well and he rode a lot of pine last year.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 6:37:11 PM

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I still like seeing success in the summer league meaningless or not. Ellington went 2-12 and Flynn had 7 assists but 7 to's.
Ellington's 2nd game 8-14 and 4-7 from behind the arc.
Flynn 14 assists with 6 to's.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 7:32:58 PM

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Flynn and Ellington looked good.

Flynn would've had 20 assists if he had teammates that could finish. I loved that he got to every spot he wanted - he was totally in control. The TOs are high, but he's playing with new guys and there is almost no offensive structure to SL games.

Ellington has a pretty shot, and looked a lot more athletic than I thought he was on a really nice dunk.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/13/2009 11:07:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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My two boys Evans and Curry had pretty good debut's in the summer league.

Randy Foye and Nikoloz Tskitishvilii dominated the summer league a couple of years ago. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean anything.

Summer league, IMO, is more to see where the problems are. Dominating no talent (relative wise) isn't a big deal.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/17/2009 9:06:41 PM

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There's a guy named Thorpe twittering from the summer league for ESPN saying that Flynn is like a tailback who explodes through the hole and who gets low in the process.

About Ellington, he says that he's more rangy than quick.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/17/2009 9:51:11 PM

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There's a guy named Thorpe twittering from the summer league for ESPN saying that Flynn is like a tailback who explodes through the hole and who gets low in the process.

I watched the game again today. He looked great. He was totally in control and he was almost "Chris Paul like" in the way that nobody could stop him from getting where he wanted to.

Boxscore will show 3 turnovers, but 2 of them were blatant fumbles by teammates he hit square in the hands.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/17/2009 10:32:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

There's a guy named Thorpe twittering from the summer league for ESPN saying that Flynn is like a tailback who explodes through the hole and who gets low in the process.

I watched the game again today. He looked great. He was totally in control and he was almost "Chris Paul like" in the way that nobody could stop him from getting where he wanted to.

Boxscore will show 3 turnovers, but 2 of them were blatant fumbles by teammates he hit square in the hands.

21 points. Didn't miss a free throw. Nice game.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/18/2009 3:02:46 AM

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Thabeet is not off to a blazing start.

In 3 games, he has 2 blocks vs 13 fouls and 8 turnovers vs 1 assist.

He's shooting a nice % and he's getting to the line some, but he also has a total of 11 rebounds in 74 minutes.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/18/2009 5:56:42 AM

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There's a guy named Thorpe twittering from the summer league for ESPN saying that Flynn is like a tailback who explodes through the hole and who gets low in the process.

I watched the game again today. He looked great. He was totally in control and he was almost "Chris Paul like" in the way that nobody could stop him from getting where he wanted to.

Boxscore will show 3 turnovers, but 2 of them were blatant fumbles by teammates he hit square in the hands.

I watched a lot of it too, DL. And I agree. Flynn was able to get anywhere on the floor. He's a lot of fun to watch.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/18/2009 9:46:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

There's a guy named Thorpe twittering from the summer league for ESPN saying that Flynn is like a tailback who explodes through the hole and who gets low in the process.

I watched the game again today. He looked great. He was totally in control and he was almost "Chris Paul like" in the way that nobody could stop him from getting where he wanted to.

Boxscore will show 3 turnovers, but 2 of them were blatant fumbles by teammates he hit square in the hands.

I was watching the Twins when I remembered that the Wolves site was suppose to show it, but by that time the game was over. Now I don't know if it was shown because when I got there I heard them run down the stats without a picture

5:30 tonight

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/27/2009 10:52:29 AM

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My two boys Evans and Curry had pretty good debut's in the summer league.

Curry ended up having a horrific summer league and Evans quickly came down to earth. I was a big Curry fan but I am very glad we took Flynn after watching him play. The way he can take the ball to the rim at his height is amazing. Still he is always looking for the pass.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/27/2009 10:58:07 AM

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Thabeet is not off to a blazing start.

In 3 games, he has 2 blocks vs 13 fouls and 8 turnovers vs 1 assist.

He's shooting a nice % and he's getting to the line some, but he also has a total of 11 rebounds in 74 minutes.

I so love seeing Memphis fail. We took a lot of shit for trading Mayo for Love and Miller but now that trade is Mayo for Love and Rubio. Sure we had to throw in Randy Foye. We will take a step back this year but in the Long Run we will bury Memphis. OKC will be more interesting.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/27/2009 12:50:41 PM

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My two boys Evans and Curry had pretty good debut's in the summer league.

Curry ended up having a horrific summer league and Evans quickly came down to earth. I was a big Curry fan but I am very glad we took Flynn after watching him play. The way he can take the ball to the rim at his height is amazing. Still he is always looking for the pass.

I agree on Curry, not on Evans.

Evans was a monster. He didn't shoot well, and that will be a problem if he doesn't really work to fix it, but he really only had 1 bad SL game.

Evans is super raw, but the potential totally showed through. Curry is more worrisome. His one serious skill is shooting, and he didn't do that very well - especially considering the competition. Pete posted how he really struggled against better teams, so that's a serious red flag.

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RE: Trade Rubio? Better be good - 7/27/2009 8:43:48 PM

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Did Curry work out for other teams? I know that he didn't work out for the Wolves, and in hindsight, that should have produced a red flag. I know that he worked out with the Knicks.

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