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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/6/2020 7:52:39 AM   
Mr. Ed


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ABSOLUTELY! I hate UW athletics far worse than the Packers.

First Pitino win at the Barn vs Wisconsin since 2014 his first year, per the story I read.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/8/2020 4:00:38 PM   
Karl Juhnke


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Status: offline 		Terrible, sloppy first half. Penn St has a good defensive plan and Pitino and Gophers have no clue how to deal with it.

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 2/8/2020 4:03:09 PM >
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/16/2020 2:05:24 PM   
David Levine


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Shame. We had this one.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/16/2020 2:07:26 PM   
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Status: online 		I rarely watch any BB, but decided to tune in for the final quarter of the Gopher game. I was reminded why I don't watch.....have we ever had a clutch player since Bobby Jackson?
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/16/2020 2:09:08 PM   
Karl Juhnke


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In other words, what has become a typical Pitino finish.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/16/2020 6:17:49 PM   
Lynn G.


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Status: offline 		Not just Pitino. It seems like that's in the DNA of every coach of every sport we have. How many late in the period goals have we seen the Wild give up to hand us a loss? Or late inning runs in baseball? Ditto for football.

I'm probably just whining because I remember the heartbreaks and not so much the wins, but it feels like this is the lot we've been handed as Minnesota sports fans. I never feel comfortable until we're up by three scores with a minute and a half left in a game. (It would have to be more like ten scores for basketball).

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 7:13:26 AM   
Karl Juhnke


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Status: offline 		Another loss of another must win game as the Gophers swirl down the drain. Put a fork in them.

They are unwatchable right now. Klunky, error prone, seemingly depressed and frightened to be on a basketball court. Same problems they always have under Pitino:

1. No depth, they always have a couple of legit good players, but they also always have a couple of players at any given time on the court who have no business playing Big 10 basketball.

2. All players no matter their raw skill level manage to under perform and under utilize their skills. You will never see a guy who seems to be getting ‘coached up’, honing his talent. You see them making the same mistakes over and over, and you see no concept of team, where the whole is greater than the parts. Just the opposite. The whole is far less than the sum of the parts.

I’ve been very patient with Pitino even while others weren’t. I’m done with him. This isn’t going to change.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 8:13:35 AM   
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Writing is on the wall over there.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 8:21:45 AM   
Mr. Ed


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Don’t even produce much upper level talent
And still mediocre.

Going to need a change

Guy at the top can’t get anything going.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 9:05:02 AM   
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A program that is about as dull and lifeless as could be.

Don’t even produce much upper level talent
And still mediocre.

Going to need a change

Guy at the top can’t get anything going.

Murphy, Coffey, Oturu

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 9:15:33 AM   
Mr. Ed


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A program that is about as dull and lifeless as could be.

Don’t even produce much upper level talent
And still mediocre.

Going to need a change

Guy at the top can’t get anything going.

Murphy, Coffey, Oturu



What’s it gaining them?

Three guys last couple of years

The program doesn’t reload

Past couple years at least
Little to no depth

It’s not a good program.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 9:29:17 AM   
Karl Juhnke


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Status: offline 		It’s like I said. They get one or two good players occasionally. But no depth and no supporting cast. And the good players never develop. They stall out.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 9:35:19 AM   
TJSweens


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Status: offline 		Pitino needs to go. He wasn't Coyle's hire, so I don't really see him surviving after missing the tournament again.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 3:52:42 PM   
Mr. Ed


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2 million dollar buyout before May 1

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 3:54:35 PM   
TJSweens


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Status: offline 		That would be money well spent. Get the last of Teague's hires out of here.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 3:56:55 PM   
Mr. Ed


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Status: offline 		He got a two year extension to 2024

But they’re now under .500 and only averaging 10k per home game

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 4:08:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Pitino now 46-80 in the Big 10

2 million dollar buyout before May 1



Doogie:

Even though the buyout drops to $1.75 million in May, they'd really only save $150,000 by waiting until May because he's due a $100,000 retention bonus on April 30.

The contract is set up for Coyle to either make a move now or commit to Pitino for multiple more years. The buyout only drops $500K in 2 years.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 4:11:58 PM   
TJSweens


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Status: offline 		Cut the cord. Two more years of Pitino will only make it that much harder for the next guy to try to salvage the program. Coyle's hiring track record is pretty damn good, so far. Let's go for another one.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/20/2020 7:32:39 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 9:19:07 AM   
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Cut the cord. Two more years of Pitino will only make it that much harder for the next guy to try to salvage the program. Coyle's hiring track record is pretty damn good, so far. Let's go for another one.


Failure to get in state talent to stay.
Failure to build a bench (injuries happen every year to almost every team)
Failure to coach up talent....Carr, Oturu, Coffey, Murphy just came in and were that good IMO.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 11:49:42 AM   
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Wonder what PJ knows about B-Ball.

Probably much less than he thinks.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 12:09:43 PM   
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Wonder what PJ knows about B-Ball.

Probably much less than he thinks.

Careful ….. this might be one of those "protected golden boy" zones ……..

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 1:34:45 PM   
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Wonder what PJ knows about B-Ball.

Probably much less than he thinks.

Careful ….. this might be one of those "protected golden boy" zones ……..

Like Michael Cuddyer.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 1:37:59 PM   
SoMnFan


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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 2/21/2020 1:42:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not true. The molotov cocktail didn't even stay lit .... er ... what I meant to say was ... gotta go!

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