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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/6/2011 9:09:59 PM   
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That kind of disappointment doesn't happen much to you Dukeeees, does it? 
Good player, needs to stay in school, tho, just like most of them do.


Not exactly shocked; he's the likely #1 pick. But I was hoping against hope he'd want to play with his best buddy Austin next year to form the best backcourt in the country.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/7/2011 6:39:47 AM   
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That kind of disappointment doesn't happen much to you Dukeeees, does it? 
Good player, needs to stay in school, tho, just like most of them do.


Maybe and maybe not.  Depends on if the Wolves get the first pick.  :)

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/7/2011 11:40:41 AM   
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Irving to enter the draft.
This would be an excellent time to get the first pick.


No Steve, that will happen next year when the Clippers get the pick anyway.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/7/2011 6:59:34 PM   
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Morris Twins from KU announce they will enter draft.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 1:44:18 PM   
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With the Memphis pick we need to take Bismack Biyombo. Dude is going to be the next Serge Ibaka.

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Bismack Biyombo Breaks Out At Nike Hoop Summit As NBA-Ready Right Now
Apr 10 11:03a
by Ben Golliver


PORTLAND, Ore. -- To see Bismack Biyombo smile from ear to ear through almost a half hour of postgame interviews on Saturday night was to know that the Nike Hoop Summit has solidified another young international player's NBA trajectory.

For Biyombo, a 6-foot-9, 243-pound forward from the Democratic Republic of Congo, it's a path more than a decade in the making. "I was 7-years-old [when I first saw an NBA game]," Biyombo told SBNation.com. "My daddy was a basketball player and he showed me a lot of NBA games. His favorite player was Karl Malone. He's very similar to Karl Malone. He's strong, he's big. Then he showed me Hakeem Olajuwon. I really wanted to play basketball because I was watching those guys, the way they played. The way they were intense, going to the boards, fighting every time, wanting to win the game every time."

Intense, active on the glass, fighting every play -- Biyombo displayed all that and more in this year's Hoop Summit, as he went from scout's secret to high-rising sensation over the course of a week in Portland, posting eye-popping measurements early in the week and notching the first triple-double in the history of the game. Biyombo finished with 12 points, 11 rebounds and 10 blocks in 28 minutes for the World Team, which lost to Team USA 92-80 at the Rose Garden on Saturday night.

For international players like Biyombo, the result of this showcase is not nearly as important as how he looks head-to-head against his top American counterparts. In Anthony Davis, James McAdoo and Michael Gilchrist, Biyombo was facing three likely lottery picks in the 2012 NBA Draft. Biyombo was the clear standout.

Showcase games always devolve in one way or another, and the second half of Saturday's Hoop Summit became a contest of "Who can drive into the paint against Biyombo and not get immediately swatted." Media members were openly rooting for Biyombo to set the Hoop Summit's blocked shots record as he used his incredible 7-foot-7 wingspan to swallow shots on their way up, catch floaters at their apex and smother attempts at the rim. He succeeds on defense not only because of his length but because of his quickness off the floor: Biyombo plays defense above the rim and he can get there in a hurry.

"It's incredible because you're a little bit in awe," said his coach for the week, Kevin Sutton. "You become a fan watching him play a little bit, it's hard as a coach because he does so many spectacular things ... He came off a plane and we asked him if wanted to practice. He had a long flight from Europe, he said he wanted to practice, he stepped on the court and had an immediate impact, jet lagged and tired. He's a phenomenal talent."

Biyombo, like most of the game's participants, is listed at 18 years old, but he's played professionally in Spain for two seasons, has a massive, sculpted NBA-ready body right now and looked like a man among boys all week, drawing speculation from scouts, fans and media alike about whether he is older than he lets on. Biyombo brushed off the age question in an interview with SI.com.

"I don't care how old he is, Biyombo can play NBA-caliber defense right now," one NBA talent evaluator said on Sunday.

That was the general consensus. Biyombo is ready now, his stock solidified as a 2011 first round pick, with the immediate buzz in the building included the NBA's L-word: Lottery.

"He's raw offensively and needs some molding, but that's a pretty impressive piece of clay," said a league executive, who marveled at Biyombo's overall athleticism and competitive desire.

Biyombo, the ACB's leading shot blocker, is built like a truck, strong enough to defend most NBA power forwards on the low block and also agile enough to step out and ably defend the high post. He plugs in immediately as an eighth or ninth guy off the bench that brings second unit energy and generally wreaks havoc.

The questions for him at the NBA level all come on the offensive side. Biyombo's game is mostly limited to attempts around the rim or second chance opportunities on the offensive glass. and he didn't show an overwhelming amount of confidence in his range during practices this week. On Saturday, he was an efficient 5 for 7 from the field, including some authoritative dunks, but didn't show a full arsenal of moves.

Biyombo knows he needs to fill out his offensive repertoire and continue to be diligent about his shot selection. "Sometimes I have bad shots," he said. "You just shoot the ball and you go, 'No, no, no, no, that was a bad shot.' Today offensively I can say I wasn't in the game."

He then explained that he was not expecting the double and triple teams that Team USA sent at him when he had the ball in the low bock. "They would double-team on me every time. Maybe they watched some video about me. They tried to find me, sometimes just triple guys around me. I was trying to get the ball, it was very difficult, they were big. With everybody that close to the basket, you try to force things. Even if you're trying to kick it out, they're denying the pass line. It was a little hard. "

All that attention was in stark contrast to how teams defend him in the ACB, where he averages 6.4 points and 5.1 rebounds for Fuenlabadra. "They just leave me alone [in Spain]," Biyombo said smiling as always. "I play one-on-one, I have so many chances to play, I have so many open shots, I have so many good shots. Today they really closed the basket, every time I have the ball in the low post, two guys around me, three guys around me. They played smart defense on me."

Biyombo said developing his offense will be a top priority in advance of next season. "I have all summer to work on that. I have a personal trainer, we're almost close to the summer, I will work on my offense and I'll be OK."

He was smiling when he said those words because, after the display he put on Saturday night, he couldn't stop.
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 3:12:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

With the Memphis pick we need to take Bismack Biyombo. Dude is going to be the next Serge Ibaka.

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Bismack Biyombo Breaks Out At Nike Hoop Summit As NBA-Ready Right Now
Apr 10 11:03a
by Ben Golliver


PORTLAND, Ore. -- To see Bismack Biyombo smile from ear to ear through almost a half hour of postgame interviews on Saturday night was to know that the Nike Hoop Summit has solidified another young international player's NBA trajectory.

For Biyombo, a 6-foot-9, 243-pound forward from the Democratic Republic of Congo, it's a path more than a decade in the making. "I was 7-years-old [when I first saw an NBA game]," Biyombo told SBNation.com. "My daddy was a basketball player and he showed me a lot of NBA games. His favorite player was Karl Malone. He's very similar to Karl Malone. He's strong, he's big. Then he showed me Hakeem Olajuwon. I really wanted to play basketball because I was watching those guys, the way they played. The way they were intense, going to the boards, fighting every time, wanting to win the game every time."

Intense, active on the glass, fighting every play -- Biyombo displayed all that and more in this year's Hoop Summit, as he went from scout's secret to high-rising sensation over the course of a week in Portland, posting eye-popping measurements early in the week and notching the first triple-double in the history of the game. Biyombo finished with 12 points, 11 rebounds and 10 blocks in 28 minutes for the World Team, which lost to Team USA 92-80 at the Rose Garden on Saturday night.

For international players like Biyombo, the result of this showcase is not nearly as important as how he looks head-to-head against his top American counterparts. In Anthony Davis, James McAdoo and Michael Gilchrist, Biyombo was facing three likely lottery picks in the 2012 NBA Draft. Biyombo was the clear standout.

Showcase games always devolve in one way or another, and the second half of Saturday's Hoop Summit became a contest of "Who can drive into the paint against Biyombo and not get immediately swatted." Media members were openly rooting for Biyombo to set the Hoop Summit's blocked shots record as he used his incredible 7-foot-7 wingspan to swallow shots on their way up, catch floaters at their apex and smother attempts at the rim. He succeeds on defense not only because of his length but because of his quickness off the floor: Biyombo plays defense above the rim and he can get there in a hurry.

"It's incredible because you're a little bit in awe," said his coach for the week, Kevin Sutton. "You become a fan watching him play a little bit, it's hard as a coach because he does so many spectacular things ... He came off a plane and we asked him if wanted to practice. He had a long flight from Europe, he said he wanted to practice, he stepped on the court and had an immediate impact, jet lagged and tired. He's a phenomenal talent."

Biyombo, like most of the game's participants, is listed at 18 years old, but he's played professionally in Spain for two seasons, has a massive, sculpted NBA-ready body right now and looked like a man among boys all week, drawing speculation from scouts, fans and media alike about whether he is older than he lets on. Biyombo brushed off the age question in an interview with SI.com.

"I don't care how old he is, Biyombo can play NBA-caliber defense right now," one NBA talent evaluator said on Sunday.

That was the general consensus. Biyombo is ready now, his stock solidified as a 2011 first round pick, with the immediate buzz in the building included the NBA's L-word: Lottery.

"He's raw offensively and needs some molding, but that's a pretty impressive piece of clay," said a league executive, who marveled at Biyombo's overall athleticism and competitive desire.

Biyombo, the ACB's leading shot blocker, is built like a truck, strong enough to defend most NBA power forwards on the low block and also agile enough to step out and ably defend the high post. He plugs in immediately as an eighth or ninth guy off the bench that brings second unit energy and generally wreaks havoc.

The questions for him at the NBA level all come on the offensive side. Biyombo's game is mostly limited to attempts around the rim or second chance opportunities on the offensive glass. and he didn't show an overwhelming amount of confidence in his range during practices this week. On Saturday, he was an efficient 5 for 7 from the field, including some authoritative dunks, but didn't show a full arsenal of moves.

Biyombo knows he needs to fill out his offensive repertoire and continue to be diligent about his shot selection. "Sometimes I have bad shots," he said. "You just shoot the ball and you go, 'No, no, no, no, that was a bad shot.' Today offensively I can say I wasn't in the game."

He then explained that he was not expecting the double and triple teams that Team USA sent at him when he had the ball in the low bock. "They would double-team on me every time. Maybe they watched some video about me. They tried to find me, sometimes just triple guys around me. I was trying to get the ball, it was very difficult, they were big. With everybody that close to the basket, you try to force things. Even if you're trying to kick it out, they're denying the pass line. It was a little hard. "

All that attention was in stark contrast to how teams defend him in the ACB, where he averages 6.4 points and 5.1 rebounds for Fuenlabadra. "They just leave me alone [in Spain]," Biyombo said smiling as always. "I play one-on-one, I have so many chances to play, I have so many open shots, I have so many good shots. Today they really closed the basket, every time I have the ball in the low post, two guys around me, three guys around me. They played smart defense on me."

Biyombo said developing his offense will be a top priority in advance of next season. "I have all summer to work on that. I have a personal trainer, we're almost close to the summer, I will work on my offense and I'll be OK."

He was smiling when he said those words because, after the display he put on Saturday night, he couldn't stop.



Depending on who else declares (Biyombo hasn't officially declared), I could see him gone before the end of the lottery.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 3:20:39 PM   
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Ya, I see him rising too. I like him as well DL.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 3:46:39 PM   
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Depending on who else declares (Biyombo hasn't officially declared), I could see him gone before the end of the lottery.


Very possible. Should still be gettable.

Although I'm guessing Kahn is already salivating about trying to get Kemba Walker with that pick....
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 3:55:09 PM   
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Jimmer Fredette.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/10/2011 4:07:34 PM   
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Jimmer Fredette.


Probably.
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/11/2011 10:56:05 AM   
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Looks like he declared on the 5th. DX has a very nice article on him today and they'll have a breakdown of his strengths and weaknesses later in the week.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Bismack-Biyombos-Long-Journey--3672

With a low buyout and the ability to keep playing in Spain if there is a lockout, he may squeak into the top 5.
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/11/2011 6:27:49 PM   
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Jimmer Fredette.


You spelt my name wrong skilz

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/11/2011 7:21:03 PM   
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 5:08:20 AM   
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Mission accomplished! 

The Wolves stand all alone as the worst team in the league!

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 6:30:13 AM   
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This was in debate?

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 6:52:45 AM   
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This was in debate?


Sure.  I mean, look at all the subtle signs of improvement!  You have to look beyond the obvious!

Somehow, someway the TWolves brass will try to convince us that if we all stay the course, things will get better.  And that insults my intelligence.   

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 11:06:16 PM   
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Chad Ford suggests that Kyrie Irving is the best player coming out for the draft. With Rubio coming next season, do the Wolves dare pick another point guard?

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 11:15:39 PM   
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Chad Ford suggests that Kyrie Irving is the best player coming out for the draft. With Rubio coming next season, do the Wolves dare pick another point guard?


Yes. You draft Irving and trade Rubio.
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 11:19:28 PM   
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In a heartbeat.

But I'm not sure Kahn will, if given the chance.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/12/2011 11:35:47 PM   
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Chad Ford suggests that Kyrie Irving is the best player coming out for the draft. With Rubio coming next season, do the Wolves dare pick another point guard?


Why not? He's done it before.

But it's fairly likely he won't get the chance.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/13/2011 1:47:22 AM   
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I can't see Irving not being 1 or 2, no matter who has the pick.  Our past PG drafting errors should not come into play.  You take the best big man or PG, if you're picking that early.  And there are no standout bigs.  Irving is NBA ready. 
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/13/2011 9:15:39 AM   
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If you end up with the 3rd or 4th pick do you pick Walker?

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/13/2011 9:25:40 AM   
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Chad Ford suggests that Kyrie Irving is the best player coming out for the draft. With Rubio coming next season, do the Wolves dare pick another point guard?


Yes. You draft Irving and trade Rubio.


I don't know about that. As much as I am losing faith in Rubio, I have a hard time going with a Chad Ford endorsed player. You know with Ford being an idiot and everything.

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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/13/2011 10:56:50 AM   
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Chad Ford suggests that Kyrie Irving is the best player coming out for the draft. With Rubio coming next season, do the Wolves dare pick another point guard?


Yes. You draft Irving and trade Rubio.


I don't know about that. As much as I am losing faith in Rubio, I have a hard time going with a Chad Ford endorsed player. You know with Ford being an idiot and everything.


In this case its just Ford jumping on the bandwagon.

If he said it first, I'd be right there with you.
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RE: 2011 NBA Draft - 4/13/2011 12:04:27 PM   
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Irving has Chris Paul potential (and you all know how much I love Chris Paul). He's got to be the pick, if given the chance. He will make the team around him better; and figures to be much, much better than Rubio.

I would not take Walker in the top 5, or probably in the top 10-15 even.

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