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RE: Crap - 12/23/2007 4:53:57 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		It's been said that special teams will win or lose you 2-3 games a year.  Today, special teams lost one.  The Bears spent most of the game in Packers territory thanks to blocked or crappy punts.  The offense got simply beat down by the Bears D.  Since they couldn't throw deep, the Bears just sat on the short routes, something the Pack should have done.
 
Oh well, it's over and just chalk the game up as a mulligan.
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RE: Crap - 12/23/2007 7:39:01 PM   
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It's been said that special teams will win or lose you 2-3 games a year.  Today, special teams lost one.  The Bears spent most of the game in Packers territory thanks to blocked or crappy punts.  The offense got simply beat down by the Bears D.  Since they couldn't throw deep, the Bears just sat on the short routes, something the Pack should have done.
 
Oh well, it's over and just chalk the game up as a mulligan.


I don't think it should be so easily forgotten.  Big mistakes were made.  There was some seriously bad play calling (like three passes after the 66-yd TD run).  Why in the world were we passing?

And Mike McCarthy should have his head examined for leaving Favre, Grant, et al in the game when it was so obviously lost.  There was no need to risk injury to our biggest players.
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RE: Crap - 12/24/2007 10:09:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both of our teams played like monkey puddles today, and both of our head coaches lost any consideration for Coach of the Year with their pate scratching decisions out there.  So much for momentum and so much for beating the opposing quarterbacks we should beat. 

Dave - I also wondered out loud why Favre was still in there for that last quarterback.  Nall could have handed off the ball as well as anyone and you never know when a new face might bring some kind of spark.  My brother was also suggesting that Bollinger should have come in the second half to give some spark to the Vikings.

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Go Pack Go - 12/31/2007 8:33:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice whipping by the Pack over Detroit.  Detroit couldn't do much against a team that was 2/3 - 3/4 backups.  It was nice to see the backups get some time in and see what they could do. 
 
The starting offense came out and got that Chicago game out of their system.  The swagger came back in a hurry.

Hey, McCarthy got the "Terry Award" for Coach of the Year before the game.  That can only mean that he's the favorite to win the big award.  Woot!

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RE: Go Pack Go - 12/31/2007 8:47:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think McCarthy is the NFC coach of the year.  I can't go against Belichick and 16-0

Bard Childress went from about 5th place in COY to "should be on the hot seat" to get fired.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 12/31/2007 9:13:00 AM   
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I think McCarthy is the NFC coach of the year.  I can't go against Belichick and 16-0

Bard Childress went from about 5th place in COY to "should be on the hot seat" to get fired.

As much as I like the idea of MM getting the award, Belichick should get it.
 
Not that I'll complain if MM gets it though mind you...
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RE: Go Pack Go - 12/31/2007 12:02:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ya, BB should get it no question. 

McCarthy's done a very good job overall (even with their laydown to Chicago in an important game for them) but I'd take Del Rio over him too, personally.

That Garrard/Leftwich move took a LOT of guts alone and look what it did for the Jags.  And today, to me they're the biggest real threat to the Pats winning it all right now.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 12/31/2007 12:50:57 PM  1 votes
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/1/2008 9:40:59 PM   
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 As long as the Packers crash and burn in the playoffs.....who really cares????
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/3/2008 10:44:54 AM   
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As long as the Packers crash and burn in the playoffs.....who really cares????


The Vikings care...because they get to watch the playoffs from their sofas.  I'd rather crash and burn than be excluded.
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 2:14:31 PM   
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 2:39:29 PM   
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Looks like we get the Seahawks.  Should be a fun game.


Packers 34-23

Seattle is too erratic

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 3:44:03 PM   
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As long as the Packers crash and burn in the playoffs.....who really cares????


The Vikings care...because they get to watch the playoffs from their sofas.  I'd rather crash and burn than be excluded.


Actually your quite wrong.....I'd rather be excluded than be a Packer fan.  Matter of fact, most Viking fans I know would rather slit their wrist than cheer for the Packers.
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 3:44:37 PM   
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 5:44:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the Packers DON'T beat a weak Seahawks team, then they are really exposed as being a mediocre team. 

Everyone in the NFC is this year.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 6:05:29 PM  1 votes
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If the Packers DON'T beat a weak Seahawks team, then they are really exposed as being a mediocre team. 

Everyone in the NFC is this year.


Other than the Pats and Colts, the AFC is no better than the NFC.  This whole "NFC is weak" thing is overblown.  Free agency and turnover has led to mediocre teams everywhere.

The Jags were exposed even in a win.  The Chargers are mediocre even with a win.  The Cowboys would beat either of them - the Chargers easily.

This isn't the only down year.  The Dolphins 14-0 year was a down year for the NFL.

Then there were years like 1991 when the 10-6 Eagles and 49ers didn't make the playoffs.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/6/2008 6:55:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree.  I think both the Jags and the Steelers would beat anyone in the NFC.  That's 4 teams.  And that's not even talking about "borderline" playoff teams, where the AFC also destroys the NFC IMO.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 8:56:05 AM   
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 2007, AFC 32-32 vs. NFC
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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 12:50:59 PM   
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2007, AFC 32-32 vs. NFC


That doesn't really mean much, Pete.  The Dolphins are in the AFC, for instance.  There's some really, really bad teams.  But the best teams are better than the best teams in the NFC.  A lot better IMO.

This is also why I kind of dismiss the qb ratings talk that this is a "normal" year.  That is incredibly skewed by the fact that Brady is at basically an all-time high.  I'd be more interested if we could do something like take the top few out, and the bottom few out and do a sampling of that.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 2:19:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jax and GB would be an interesting matchup.  I really don't know who would win that one.
 
Right now, I don't think Pitts could beat GB, not without Parker.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 3:09:53 PM   
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Jax and GB would be an interesting matchup.  I really don't know who would win that one.
 
Right now, I don't think Pitts could beat GB, not without Parker.




That's true; the Parker injury COULD change that one.  I really think the Jags would be too tough for you guys, Craig.  Heck, they're the 2nd best team in the AFC if you ask me.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 3:19:04 PM   
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Jax and GB would be an interesting matchup.  I really don't know who would win that one.
 
Right now, I don't think Pitts could beat GB, not without Parker.




That's true; the Parker injury COULD change that one.  I really think the Jags would be too tough for you guys, Craig.  Heck, they're the 2nd best team in the AFC if you ask me.


Just what the Colts want...people overlooking them.  They are a lot better than people think they are.  They have really flown under the radar this year.  Jacksonville is good, but lost TWICE to the Colts.  they are not the second best team in the AFC.  Third maybe, but not second...and if anyone says the Patriots aren't the best team in the AFC, they are delusional.  I hate the Pats, but I recognize their accomplishment.

As for GB beating Jax.  In Green Bay it would happen, outside of GB on a neutral field, toss up.

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RE: Go Pack Go - 1/7/2008 3:31:59 PM   
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RE: RE:The Packers - 1/7/2008 11:18:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig  July 2007!  The kids are looking fairly good in camp already, especially the WRs. So far 3rd rd pick Jones has caught everything thrown at him. I know it's only camp, but it's sure better than seeing "looked lost and is having problems with drops".


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ORIGINAL: Ray Peterson  July 31, 2007  Hey Craig isn't it nice to see positives in the press again after these last couple of years. Here's a clip of Aaron Schatz from "Football Outsiders" on ESPN yesterday. He has nice things to say about the Packers -and- a certain Vikings player as well. Watch the clip, then get your $$$$'s down in Vegas! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/v/yKhpWFw4scM


Hey Craig, remember way back in July, when Aaron Schatz predicted the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Green Bay Packers as two Superbowl Contenders!    Oh, I guess he did say something about "longshots"...      He was kinda hit and miss on some of his other predictions though... 

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RE: RE:The Packers - 1/8/2008 8:18:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent find Ray!  I had forgotten about that clip.  Look at that, I was right about the WRs!
 
I think the Pack far exceeded any expectations anyone had.
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