Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums  Register  Login  My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums 

Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ  Ticket List  Log Out

RE: RE:The Packers

 
Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [The Minnesota Vikings] >> General NFL Talk >> RE: RE:The Packers Page: <<   < prev  60 61 [62] 63 64   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/26/2009 4:20:44 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


Posts: 967
Joined: 7/30/2007
From: The Frozen Tundra
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tim Cady

I agree Craig great draft, I just am not sure how Kampman fits in.

I think he is not an End in the 3-4 and I don't see him playing standing up. So maybe we just could ship a 7th rounder over to ya for him, so you know you could have something to show for switching defenses and eliminating what was your best defender...

Kampy is not an end in the 3-4 that is true.  He's a smart player and I think after some adjustment he'll be just fine at OLB.  Passing situations he'll be tested in when he has to cover, but they can simply move him around and have him be the blitzing OLB.  He's not eliminated by any stretch from the defense.  Capers will find a way to use him quite well I'm sure.  I don't think we'll take that offer of a 7th from you though, generous as it was.  Sorry.
Post #: 1526
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/26/2009 7:37:46 PM   
Tim Cady

 

Posts: 10549
Joined: 7/17/2007
From: Wonderful World
Status: offline
Ok, put Thompson on the phone if you are going to be that way about it.






Post #: 1527
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/26/2009 8:36:17 PM   
Lynn G.


Posts: 33037
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
{self deleted}

< Message edited by Lynn G. -- 4/26/2009 8:38:13 PM >


_____________________________

Put our country back in the hands of people who actually want to do things to help everyday citizens. Elect Democrats.
Post #: 1528
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/26/2009 11:23:32 PM   
John Childress


Posts: 42898
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
Kampman for Peppers?

Can't see Kampman in a 3-4

_____________________________

No more acceptance of mediocrity!!!! EVER!
Post #: 1529
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 1:58:59 PM   
Lynn G.


Posts: 33037
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
Whoa - this was in Peter King's column:
quote:


• Green Bay. B.J. Raji's the best anchor for a 3-4 in this draft. I don't trust Clay Matthews, but we'll see. Why? He walked onto the USC campus weighing 161 pounds. Is his frame fine, adding 80 pounds in such a short time?


How does a guy add 80 pounds in any kind of healthy way. Is that number accurate?

_____________________________

Put our country back in the hands of people who actually want to do things to help everyday citizens. Elect Democrats.
Post #: 1530
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 2:14:14 PM   
Duane Sampson


Posts: 14200
Status: offline
My buddy lost 140 lbs last weekend.
Post #: 1531
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 2:15:01 PM   
John Childress


Posts: 42898
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

My buddy lost 140 lbs last weekend.


Got a divorce?

_____________________________

No more acceptance of mediocrity!!!! EVER!
Post #: 1532
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 2:15:53 PM   
Duane Sampson


Posts: 14200
Status: offline
Yep!

They split the house 50/50 - he got the outside.
Post #: 1533
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 2:43:14 PM   
Tim Cady

 

Posts: 10549
Joined: 7/17/2007
From: Wonderful World
Status: offline
Justin Harrel

Craig?

Opinion, lot of money to sit on the bench, can he be an end in the 3-4? Or is Green Bay going to be forced to cut him? Depending on salary, I am guessing they are in the same boat as Denver with Jarvis Moss. Nobody probably wants in a trade, but teams would sign as a free agent for a salary more reflective of production.
Post #: 1534
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/27/2009 8:20:11 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


Posts: 967
Joined: 7/30/2007
From: The Frozen Tundra
Status: offline
One of the things that was interesting that Capers said was that when he looked at JH when he came out of college was that he looked to be best at DE for a 3-4.  So they are looking at JH starting opposite of Jenkins at the DE spot.  He's not going to be traded, not a chance.  Rumor is that he's pretty pumped at the move and maybe we'll finally start seeing some production out of him this year.
 
As for Matthews and the weight gain, I was 6'1" 160 going into college and graduated 6'4" 195 and I wasn't even working out anywhere near as much as Clay was.  Plus, I've seen different reports on his weight entering USC.  I've only seen that as a junior in HS he weighed 166 and I would bet that if he was so determined to play at USC he would have bulked up at least 25-30 lbs his senior year.  No way USC would have taken a kid who was 166 lbs as a LB, regardless of who his dad was.  I'm more inclined to believe the stories that he was just over 200 lbs when he entered USC.  So the weight gain is a non-issue for me and I think it's a bit exaggerated.
Post #: 1535
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/28/2009 10:06:17 AM   
Jeff Jesser


Posts: 19462
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: Southern Cal
Status: offline
I mentioned it on another thread.  It's not hard to put on weight like that.  Especially considering he would have had access to a nutritionist and the best workout equipment money could buy.  Believe me, if we knew the amount of calories those guys put down a day it would  look sickening.   Think of it this way:


300 calories a day increase over your maintenance level will give you an added 1 lb a week.  Times that by 52 and you can easily see how it's possible.  Athletes like that, who are bulking, would probably take in 2000 calories is raw protein alone in a day (and I'm guessing much more). 
Post #: 1536
RE: RE:The Packers - 4/29/2009 10:19:21 AM   
Easy E

 

Posts: 10871
Status: offline
quote:

So the weight gain is a non-issue for me and I think it's a bit exaggerated.

 
In the football world, it's relative and not that bad. In reality, the things they have players, especially linemen, do to their bodies is severely unhealthy and damages them for life.
Post #: 1537
RE: RE:The Packers - 5/1/2009 9:27:05 PM   
thebigo


Posts: 28303
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I mentioned it on another thread.  It's not hard to put on weight like that.  Especially considering he would have had access to a nutritionist and the best workout equipment money could buy.  Believe me, if we knew the amount of calories those guys put down a day it would  look sickening.   Think of it this way:


300 calories a day increase over your maintenance level will give you an added 1 lb a week.  Times that by 52 and you can easily see how it's possible.  Athletes like that, who are bulking, would probably take in 2000 calories is raw protein alone in a day (and I'm guessing much more). 


500 calories and it's a deal.
Post #: 1538
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/7/2009 9:28:28 AM   
marty


Posts: 13049
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline
My sources tell me that the Packer defense is dominating at their camp, which is a little surprising since they are going to a totally new scheme.

Aaron Kampmann is making plays all over the place, but he did get beat by Finley deep.  That may just be what Kampmann is like in the 3-4, dominant unless you burn him deep.  Will the Vikes TRY to burn him deep ?  Also, Finley has looked outstanding at TE, and MIGHT unseat Lee in the near future, but Lee is a better blocker, so it's kind of a nice 1-2 punch, just like Kleinsasser/Shiancoe.

The Packer defense might just need to be mediocre to take the division, if they are good, they might be the best team in the NFC, the most balanced.  Charles Woodson has looked REALLY good, age is NO factor for him.  Al Harris can still be a liability, you just have to put a physical WR on him, or burn him deep.

They were expecting a big year out of Jordy Nelson, but I heard that WR James Jones has looked really sharp and might solidfy his spot as a #3 on a team that is well stocked at WR. 
                                   
Barnett hasn't even been playing, but his replacement is doing well in his place.  I expect the defense will be even better when Barnett returns.  I also heard that one player that is really standing out is AJ Hawk, he loves the 3-4, feels at home, and really wants to prove himself.

The good news is Raji isn't signed, Collins is holding out, there are some injuries on the OL and Mike McCarthy is still the HC.

         




                                     

< Message edited by marty -- 8/7/2009 9:30:27 AM >


_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!
Post #: 1539
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/7/2009 9:35:15 AM   
TheGonz


Posts: 4353
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

My sources tell me that the Packer defense is dominating at their camp, which is a little surprising since they are going to a totally new scheme.

Aaron Kampmann is making plays all over the place, but he did get beat by Finley deep.  That may just be what Kampmann is like in the 3-4, dominant unless you burn him deep.  Will the Vikes TRY to burn him deep ?  Also, Finley has looked outstanding at TE, and MIGHT unseat Lee in the near future, but Lee is a better blocker, so it's kind of a nice 1-2 punch, just like Kleinsasser/Shiancoe.

The Packer defense might just need to be mediocre to take the division, if they are good, they might be the best team in the NFC, the most balanced.  Charles Woodson has looked REALLY good, age is NO factor for him.  Al Harris can still be a liability, you just have to put a physical WR on him, or burn him deep.

They were expecting a big year out of Jordy Nelson, but I heard that WR James Jones has looked really sharp and might solidfy his spot as a #3 on a team that is well stocked at WR. 
                                  
Barnett hasn't even been playing, but his replacement is doing well in his place.  I expect the defense will be even better when Barnett returns.  I also heard that one player that is really standing out is AJ Hawk, he loves the 3-4, feels at home, and really wants to prove himself.

The good news is Raji isn't signed, Collins is holding out, there are some injuries on the OL and Mike McCarthy is still the HC.                         

Has the defense tried stopping Adrian Peterson?  Because, if I recall, they were really crappy at that last year.

_____________________________

The question is not "Who will let me?" Rather, the question is "Who will stop me?"
Post #: 1540
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/7/2009 10:43:59 AM   
Jeff Jesser


Posts: 19462
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: Southern Cal
Status: offline
That and all defenses are always ahead of offenses this early in camp.  Plus, GB sucks.
Post #: 1541
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/7/2009 11:56:54 AM   
John Childress


Posts: 42898
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
I always hate when coaches come in and install a scheme that doesn't fit the players.  We were not a WCO team personnel wise for 3 years but that didn't stop Bard.

Kampman is not a 3-4 defensive player.

Dumb

_____________________________

No more acceptance of mediocrity!!!! EVER!
Post #: 1542
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/7/2009 10:38:09 PM   
thebigo


Posts: 28303
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

I always hate when coaches come in and install a scheme that doesn't fit the players.  We were not a WCO team personnel wise for 3 years but that didn't stop Bard.

Kampman is not a 3-4 defensive player.

Dumb


You can't really blame Capers though. That's his system, it is Ted Thompson that hired him, Thompson had to know Capers would install the 3-4
Post #: 1543
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/17/2009 1:17:31 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


Posts: 967
Joined: 7/30/2007
From: The Frozen Tundra
Status: offline
Preseason game 1 is in the books for the Packers and things overall looked pretty good.
 
The defense pitched a shutout which even though it's preseason is pretty impressive.  I was unable to watch the game myself but from what I gathered from other Packers fans that did see it was that the defense was flying around all over and there were lots of real good plays made.  Lots of pressure and several INTs.  So far so good with that unit.  Glad to see Raji got signed and he'll likely miss the next preseason game as well, but at least his holdout didn't go into the regular season. 
 
The offense did well as Rodgers led the Pack to 2 scoring drives on his 2 drives for the game.  Sweet.  The OL did a very nice job in both run and pass blocking.  FB Quinn Johnson is a guy to watch this coming season.  He's an absolute monster blocker and was blowing up defenders and helping make big holes for the running game.  We haven't had a great blocking FB in several years and it's good to see that position get upgraded big-time.
 
No major injuries and a solid showing for the new defense.  Not a bad start.
Post #: 1544
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/18/2009 12:56:06 AM   
marty


Posts: 13049
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline
My early reports on the Packers' D now looks accurate.

However, it was just the Cleveland offense.

The Glog from the game said that if it were the regular season, the Packers probably would have dominated.  NOT what I was hoping for !
Post #: 1545
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/22/2009 9:29:03 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


Posts: 967
Joined: 7/30/2007
From: The Frozen Tundra
Status: offline
The first half featured the starters and they absolutely dominated the Bills. The offense was outstanding with the OL opening huge holes for the running game and Rodgers played fantastic. The defense was swarming, creating a lot of pressure and getting 1 INT and 3 fumbles. So far after 2 games the offense looks to have not missed a beat since last season and is playing better even. The defense has been down right destructive to the opposing offenses.

Still only preseason, but there's a lot of good things going on.
Post #: 1546
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/23/2009 8:27:22 AM   
John Childress


Posts: 42898
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline
Should be a 3 way race to the finish line this year Craig.  I always liked Rodgers and thought GB got a steal with him.  I will trade you our 4 QBs for him!

I am not as sold on the defense there yet

_____________________________

No more acceptance of mediocrity!!!! EVER!
Post #: 1547
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/24/2009 3:08:28 AM   
marty


Posts: 13049
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline
After 2 pre-season games, I'm starting to think the Packers will go 11-5, the Vikes 10-6 and the Bears 9-7, ALL making the playoffs.  

I know that's VERY pre-mature, and a ALOT can change, and it can change FAST.  I'm assuming Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, and that is NOT a given.  And despite being an Ironman, a 40 year old Favre is not a guarantee to stay healthy either.
Post #: 1548
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/25/2009 11:39:56 AM   
Guest
Im not ready to annoint GB division champs just yet.  I remember plenty of years the Vikes looked like world beaters in the preseason only to be not so good when it counted.  Its the preseason...and against the Bills, TO wasn't even in the game and if it were regular season that changes a lot when it comes to defenses.....The Crappers will be a good team....11-5 good remains to be seen!

_____________________________

I am collecting for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society in memory of my fiance who passed away on 9/9/2006. If anyone would like to donate just go to http://pages.lightthenight.org/mn/TwinCiti09/SMiller Any and all donations will be greatly appreciated.
  Post #: 1549
RE: RE:The Packers - 8/25/2009 11:41:35 AM   
Trekgeekscott


Posts: 39282
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: United Federation of Planets
Status: offline
Here's a prediction for the NFC North...

The Lions will have a better record this year than last year.  

_____________________________

“There is no hate like Christian love.”
Post #: 1550
Page:   <<   < prev  60 61 [62] 63 64   next >   >>
All Forums >> [The Minnesota Vikings] >> General NFL Talk >> RE: RE:The Packers Page: <<   < prev  60 61 [62] 63 64   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5.5 Unicode