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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I give up Phil..... Kahn wins! He has less invested!

OK, Love jousting aside, I think that encapsulates what I'm talking about. Going out and getting what you think will win championships, regardless of the cost and risk, is foreign to some. To many. And foreign to many crappy teams, which is fine with me!

It's a sad day when journalists and hacks get it but fans don't.

Here's the deal Phil. LA is expected to compete for the NBA Championship year in and year out. Regardless of luxury taxes, limited free agents, old rosters, a new CBA, blah, blah. There are no excuses. No reasons. No could haves or if only's. They might as well adopt Al Davis' motto, "Just Win Baby!" because that is the expectation.

And Jerry Buss has delivered. Jerry West has delivered. And Mitch Kupchak, the great North Carolina Tar Heel and 6th man in the Bullets championship in the mid-70s, has delivered.

So you go have a party and enjoy your fabricated 3rd party financial moral victory based on "investing less" in a player with one knee and some guy who probably has a Russian machine gun named after him.... because you don't get the winning mentality, attitude, expectations, demands, and pressure.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I give up Phil..... Kahn wins! He has less invested!

OK, Love jousting aside, I think that encapsulates what I'm talking about. Going out and getting what you think will win championships, regardless of the cost and risk, is foreign to some. To many. And foreign to many crappy teams, which is fine with me!

It's a sad day when journalists and hacks get it but fans don't.

Here's the deal Phil. LA is expected to compete for the NBA Championship year in and year out. Regardless of luxury taxes, limited free agents, old rosters, a new CBA, blah, blah. There are no excuses. No reasons. No could haves or if only's. They might as well adopt Al Davis' motto, "Just Win Baby!" because that is the expectation.

And Jerry Buss has delivered. Jerry West has delivered. And Mitch Kupchak, the great North Carolina Tar Heel and 6th man in the Bullets championship in the mid-70s, has delivered.

So you go have a party and enjoy your fabricated 3rd party financial moral victory based on "investing less" in a player with one knee and some guy who probably has a Russian machine gun named after him.... because you don't get the winning mentality, attitude, expectations, demands, and pressure.

Bill I am not among those who think that the Lakers have made any bad moves this offseason. They have made good moves and should be in the running to win the whole thing next year. Any team with a front line of Gasol and Bynum should win a good number of their games. Now with Gasol and Howard and a still very good Steve Nash of course they are a title contender. All I am debating with you is that Love is an easily better player than Kobe right now. You are such a Kobe jock rider that you fail to see how little positive effect he has on winning basketball games. .The Wolves with Love, Pek and Kirilenko are going to have a solid front line. As of now we don't have any proven quality at SG and we are hoping for a strong comeback by Rubio. If Rubio comes back strong and Roy/Shved/Buddinger/Williams provide us some solid wing the play the Wolves could win 50 games this year. We are on the rise Hopefully. Last year with Rubio going down makes me feel snakebit like nothing will ever go right for our club.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he finally won something!

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he finally won something!

Love has won plenty of things. National High School Player of the year for one. Pac Ten player of the year for another. First team all American. Leading his team to the NCAA final four might not be a championship but it is a major accomplishment for a freshman basketball player. One state championship in HS and two runners up. FIBA world championship in 2010. Olympic Gold is another nice thing to add to his resume. Bill don't become a troll.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he finally won something!

Love has won plenty of things. National High School Player of the year for one. Pac Ten player of the year for another. First team all American. Leading his team to the NCAA final four might not be a championship but it is a major accomplishment for a freshman basketball player. One state championship in HS and two runners up. FIBA world championship in 2010. Olympic Gold is another nice thing to add to his resume. Bill don't become a troll.

High school player of the year? As if that could be determined. FIBA? Seriously?

Let me do a word/phrase search. Let's see, I'll enter "NBA"

Returns = None

Stop your knob licking.

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ORIGINAL: David Jerde

Recommended reading: Ignore BJ, he's just got a thang for the Lakers.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

You are just an antagonist who kept racheting things up. Deal with it!

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

You really are a troll.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Much of the country understands Love is but a role player. Decent but he can't create his own shots. Limited. But he's a good rebounder.

He's a cross between Tyler Hansborough and Blake Griffin, only less athletic.

I post about Love, kgaboom posts about me, go figure.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Much of the country understands Love is but a role player. Decent but he can't create his own shots. Limited. But he's a good rebounder.

He's a cross between Tyler Hansborough and Blake Griffin, only less athletic.

I post about Love, kgaboom posts about me, go figure.

Dude, you started the personal attacks with your knob licker comment. Now you're going to play victim?


Love isn't just a good rebounder, he's working at one of the top rates in NBA history.

And you apparently didn't watch him much last year, as he demonstrated the ability to create his own shot. He put up 26 PPG; Kobe put up 28, but he needed 4 more shots per game to get the additional 2 points. Love definitively moved out of the category of role player.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Phil, I see you got beat up on the Vikings thread today by a few people. Hey, no problem or bad feelings. Call it a lousy day of posting... we all have them. Regroup and come out better tomorrow.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Much of the country understands Love is but a role player. Decent but he can't create his own shots. Limited. But he's a good rebounder.

He's a cross between Tyler Hansborough and Blake Griffin, only less athletic.

I post about Love, kgaboom posts about me, go figure.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Somebody named Henry commits to the Wolves for four years. I saw this on ESPN scroll. Who the hell is Henry and are they talking about our wolves?

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Much of the country understands Love is but a role player. Decent but he can't create his own shots. Limited. But he's a good rebounder.

He's a cross between Tyler Hansborough and Blake Griffin, only less athletic.

I post about Love, kgaboom posts about me, go figure.

Dude, you started the personal attacks with your knob licker comment. Now you're going to play victim?


Love isn't just a good rebounder, he's working at one of the top rates in NBA history.

And you apparently didn't watch him much last year, as he demonstrated the ability to create his own shot. He put up 26 PPG; Kobe put up 28, but he needed 4 more shots per game to get the additional 2 points. Love definitively moved out of the category of role player.

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Much of the country understands Love is but a role player. Decent but he can't create his own shots. Limited. But he's a good rebounder.

He's a cross between Tyler Hansborough and Blake Griffin, only less athletic.

I post about Love, kgaboom posts about me, go figure.

Dude, you started the personal attacks with your knob licker comment. Now you're going to play victim?


Love isn't just a good rebounder, he's working at one of the top rates in NBA history.

And you apparently didn't watch him much last year, as he demonstrated the ability to create his own shot. He put up 26 PPG; Kobe put up 28, but he needed 4 more shots per game to get the additional 2 points. Love definitively moved out of the category of role player.

Knob licker/jock rider? Not that familiar with either of them in a practical sense, but I can see how they both can be perceived as offensive.

Somewhere in this discussion lies a good debate. Kobe vs. Love, right now.

I appreciate the guys that were civil and provided stats. However, there has been no mention of defense. That shouldn't be ignored.

Personally, I don't think that Love is easily better than Kobe. I think it's pretty damn close. And that's one hell of a compliment to Kevin Love.