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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 10:42:22 PM   
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Roch won 4-3 Sunday on a walk-off Sac Fly and throwing error, which allowed the 2nd run to score.

3 of 5 hits on the day were doubles.

Farris 1-3/double/RBI, Martinez 1-2/double/R, Fryer 1-3/double/R, Ortiz PH single/R

Oliveros 4IP 6H/R/BB/3K
Meyer 3IP H/BB/K
Achter IP 2H/2R/2HR
Thielbar 4-2 IP Bb/K


As noted 13-0 Chattanooga route today. 4 crooked number innings (4/3/3/3) on a dozen hits

Walker 2-5/2R HR(15)/2R/3RBI(46), Polanco 3-5/3doubles(11)/3R/RBI, Sano 2-4/BB/3R/2rBI(35), Paulino 2-4/triple/2RBI, Kepler 1-3/double(16)/2BB/2R/RBI, Gonzales 1-4/R/2RBI

Wimmers 3-1 7IP 3H/3BB/3K
Boer IP H/K
DJohnson IP 2H/K



FTM off

CRapids 3-hit, 6-2

Doe 2-4, Corcino 1-4/RBI

Gibbons 0-1 4IP 7H/4R/3ER/3K
Bard 3IP H/K
Velez IP 4H/2R/BB/K


I'll never understand why minor league teams sometimes are off on Sunday.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 10:46:57 PM   
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Miguel Sano remains day to day with right index finger issue, per #MNTwins farm director Brad Steil. Has missed 4 of past 7 games at AA.

Josmil Pinto since May 8:
14 for 83 (.169) with 2 HR, 19 K.



Crap...we need both of them in the lineup and hitting....need them at the big club.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 10:53:50 PM   
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Roch won 4-3 Sunday on a walk-off Sac Fly and throwing error, which allowed the 2nd run to score.

3 of 5 hits on the day were doubles.

Farris 1-3/double/RBI, Martinez 1-2/double/R, Fryer 1-3/double/R, Ortiz PH single/R

Oliveros 4IP 6H/R/BB/3K
Meyer 3IP H/BB/K
Achter IP 2H/2R/2HR
Thielbar 4-2 IP Bb/K


As noted 13-0 Chattanooga route today. 4 crooked number innings (4/3/3/3) on a dozen hits

Walker 2-5/2R HR(15)/2R/3RBI(46), Polanco 3-5/3doubles(11)/3R/RBI, Sano 2-4/BB/3R/2rBI(35), Paulino 2-4/triple/2RBI, Kepler 1-3/double(16)/2BB/2R/RBI, Gonzales 1-4/R/2RBI

Wimmers 3-1 7IP 3H/3BB/3K
Boer IP H/K
DJohnson IP 2H/K



FTM off

CRapids 3-hit, 6-2

Doe 2-4, Corcino 1-4/RBI

Gibbons 0-1 4IP 7H/4R/3ER/3K
Bard 3IP H/K
Velez IP 4H/2R/BB/K


I'll never understand why minor league teams sometimes are off on Sunday.


Sometimes travel schedules. Remember the series are 4 games, not 3, so occassionally that changes things.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 10:55:02 PM   
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I say again; Meyer in relief is just almost unfair. At the very least, he's going to be a major weapon for us if things get interesting down the stretch in that role, as Stacey noted.

What's with Oliveros starting, Ed? Are they now converting him? Or just a spot start situation? He's been great in relief; should have been up months ago in that role.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 10:58:32 PM   
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Would be nice to get to where Texas was a couple years back ... about 4 or 5 or more maybe?
I remember hoping we wouldn't get to their pen, ever.
A stable of nasty flamethrowers all looking for innings.
KC kind of went that way too.
I remember thinking that would be a great way to build a successful run.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 11:01:09 PM   
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Yep. No reason we can't have (at least) a Perkins/Jones/Meyer trio at the in a month or two. 97, 99, 99 at the back end. Two from the left side. Plus throw in guys like Tonkin, and as long as Boyer's cinderella run lasts.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 11:12:19 PM   
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I say again; Meyer in relief is just almost unfair. At the very least, he's going to be a major weapon for us if things get interesting down the stretch in that role, as Stacey noted.

What's with Oliveros starting, Ed? Are they now converting him? Or just a spot start situation? He's been great in relief; should have been up months ago in that role.

Not to mention Burdi will be in the mix somewhere down the line.
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 11:20:34 PM   
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Ya. I'm just talking this year.

I'm not a Burdi guy though anymore, Mark. Fast and straight doesn't get it done. My grandpa's favorite saying from one of his fellow townball guys was always: "The harda you pitch 'em, the farda they hit 'em" in that scenario.

But there are plenty of other pen arms (Reed, Chargois, etc.).

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/7/2015 11:29:58 PM   
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Ask Dave Stevens.
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 5:48:28 AM   
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Four highly successful relief appearances does not a career change make, but it's at least food for thought with regard to Alex Meyer.

Then again, his recent performances out of the bullpen might just be the first four steps on the path to regaining his prime form as a starting pitcher.

The Rochester Red Wings and Minnesota Twins certainly aren't rushing to judgment. They like what they've seen from the new Alex Meyer — including the three scoreless innings he pitched in the Wings' 4-3 walk-off victory over the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders on Sunday — but there's no reason to proclaim the move out of the starting rotation is permanent.

"I stay away from those things," Wings manager Mike Quade said when asked about the long-term projection. "I've been doing this too long; development is what it is.

"He's got value standing on that bump and we'll figure it out — and he'll figure it out — down the road what that's going to be."

Meyer, 25, came into the season with great promise. He tied for the International League lead in strikeouts last year (153 in 1301/3 innings) as a Triple-A rookie, going 7-7 with a 3.52 ERA in 27 starts. He was given the ball for this year's opening day start in Buffalo.

But he wasn't the same pitcher. In eight starts, he had a 2-3 record with a bloated 7.09 ERA. He pitched through the fifth inning just four times.

“I think, and you give credit to the kid, it’s worked out and he’s comfortable right now doing it...His velocity is up a few ticks and even his soft game I think has been a little bit better.””
Mike Quade, Red Wings manager
So, back on May 21, the decision was made to move Meyer to the bullpen. He would be able to work some things that ailed him, like his release point, his consistency in finding the strike zone, his curve which no longer had deadly bite.

He was OK with the idea, too.

"I was all for it," Meyer said. "Obviously I knew I was not doing well as a starter. You can't keep bringing the bullpen into the game in the fourth and fifth inning. I've got guys around me (the other starters) pitching into the seventh and eighth every single time, and when I go out there and lay an egg and the bullpen has to come in in the fifth inning ... you can see where that would be tough."

Now he's the guy working middle-inning to set-up relief. Sunday was his fourth game and the numbers are impressive: A combined 62/3 innings with just two hits allowed, three walks and nine strikeouts. He registered 98 mph a few times on Sunday with his fastball.


"I think, and you give credit to the kid, it's worked out and he's comfortable right now doing it," Quade said. "We've tried to give him time between outings. His velocity is up a few ticks and even his soft game I think has been a little bit better."

Meyer has been required to learn the nuances of relief. Like how to warm up quickly. And how to warm up but then sit back down in the bullpen because the current pitcher escaped trouble. He said his fellow relievers have passed along tips.

Then there's adopting the mindset of a reliever as opposed to a starter.

"As a starter I have to try to plan a little better, I guess, that's one way to put it," Meyer said. "Do I show them my pitches now? Do I throw this now because I'm going to face them later?

“While I’m in the bullpen, it’s go get ’em. Do whatever you have to do to get them out. I’m just trying to go out there and attack every batter.”
Alex Meyer, Red Wings pitcher
"While I'm in the bullpen, it's go get 'em. Do whatever you have to do to get them out. I'm just trying to go out there and attack every batter. Get one batter out at a time and try not to over-analyze things any more than that."

He pitched the fifth, sixth and seventh innings on Sunday and didn't figure in the decision. Caleb Thielbar was the winner as the Wings erased a 3-2 deficit with two runs in the bottom of the ninth.

Oswaldo Arcia hit a deep bases-loaded sacrifice fly to drive home Danny Ortiz with the tying run and Reynaldo Rodriguez came home right behind him when shortstop Nick Noonan air-mailed the relay wildly past third base.


< Message edited by Mr. Ed -- 6/8/2015 5:49:34 AM >


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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 5:50:34 AM   
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Oliveros likely started w/Milone gone; I don't know if they have replaced that spot yet.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 6:29:13 AM   
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Its Draft Day!!!



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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 9:14:46 AM   
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May 29-June 5

Minnesota Twins
Recalled: RHP Michael Tonkin, LHP Tommy Milone
Optioned to Triple-A: RHP Michael Tonkin (twice), OF Oswaldo Arcia
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP D.J. Baxendale, RHP Hudson Boyd, RHP Dallas Gallant, RHP Ethan Mildren, 3B Nate Hanson
Reinstated from DL: RHP Matt Summers, LHP Corey Williams


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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 10:25:53 AM   
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Williams has been a huge disappointment for me. Really thought he'd be up and helping by now as a hard throwing lefty out of the pen. He's still got a chance (24 years old) but the odds aren't in his favor at this point. But I'll never forget this play as long as I live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nle8-1K-wTw

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 10:27:00 AM   
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Great to see Meyer regaining confidence. Just attack, kid. I still want them to do everything they can to harness him as a starter first. If it fails, he can always be a dominant reliever. But 180 innings of ace or #2 stuff is way better than 70 of it.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 10:27:45 AM   
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Williams has been a huge disappointment for me. Really thought he'd be up and helping by now as a hard throwing lefty out of the pen. He's still got a chance (24 years old) but the odds aren't in his favor at this point. But I'll never forget this play as long as I live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nle8-1K-wTw



he's just back from TJ surgery.

Patience D.These are the Twins. He'll still be a prospect in years

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 11:58:57 AM   
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Lookouts' Buxton on pace for Southern League triples record


Nobody is rounding the bases these days quite like Chattanooga Lookouts outfielder Byron Buxton.

The top prospect in minor league baseball already has 11 triples this season, nearly doubling the next highest total in the Southern League. He would have had another on May 27 but was waved home by Lookouts manager Doug Mientkiewicz for the first inside-the-park home run of his professional career.

"I knew I had to put it in another gear," a smiling Buxton said. "When you're approaching third, you're not expecting to be sent. I just kept going, and he didn't tell me to stop, so I put it another gear to get there."

If Buxton remains in high gear, he will rewrite a slew of records later this summer.

With the Southern League season still a couple of weeks from its midway mark, Buxton is on pace to surpass the 19 triples Alan Trammell had for Montgomery in 1977. Alfredo Silverio set the Chattanooga standard for triples with 18 in 2011. Scott Schebler led the Lookouts in that category last year with 14.

"Everybody knows that he obviously has speed, and one thing about a majority of guys who hit triples is that they're not power guys," Lookouts hitting coach Chad Allen said. "That's an advantage Buxton has over a lot of people, because he not only can hit doubles and triples, but he can hit home runs. I'm not saying he's going to be a 30-home-run guy, but when you're able to add in the aspect that he can drive the ball, too, he's probably going to hit a few more triples than most people.

"He just glides around the bases, and it's absolutely phenomenal how many triples he has so far. A good year for him when he makes it to the big leagues will probably be 10 to 15 triples and 30 to 40 doubles, which for a lot of guys is phenomenal, but that's the kind of potential he has."

Allen and Mientkiewicz were with the Minnesota Twins in 2000 when Cristian Guzman tallied 20 triples, but most players don't come close to what Buxton is accomplishing. Mientkiewicz compiled 11 triples throughout his productive 12-year big-league career, while Allen had eight in his seven years in the majors.

Of course, inside-the-park homers make triples seem commonplace.

"When a ball gets hit in the gap, the first thought for everybody else is that it's a double," Allen said. "When he hits it, it's a legitimate chance for a triple. When that one hit off the wall, you're thinking, 'This may actually be a legitimate chance for an inside-the-parker,' because most people would be sliding into third and he's three-quarters of the way to home plate.

"He's a great kid who I love to death, and he's got a great future ahead of him."

A future that Buxton is keeping in perspective, even as he's stretching for third base.

"It is a little exciting," Buxton said. "I just want to keep doing what I've been doing and get on base for my teammates to drive me in."
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/8/2015 12:35:31 PM   
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Lookouts' Buxton on pace for Southern League triples record


Nobody is rounding the bases these days quite like Chattanooga Lookouts outfielder Byron Buxton.

The top prospect in minor league baseball already has 11 triples this season, nearly doubling the next highest total in the Southern League. He would have had another on May 27 but was waved home by Lookouts manager Doug Mientkiewicz for the first inside-the-park home run of his professional career.

"I knew I had to put it in another gear," a smiling Buxton said. "When you're approaching third, you're not expecting to be sent. I just kept going, and he didn't tell me to stop, so I put it another gear to get there."

If Buxton remains in high gear, he will rewrite a slew of records later this summer.

With the Southern League season still a couple of weeks from its midway mark, Buxton is on pace to surpass the 19 triples Alan Trammell had for Montgomery in 1977. Alfredo Silverio set the Chattanooga standard for triples with 18 in 2011. Scott Schebler led the Lookouts in that category last year with 14.

"Everybody knows that he obviously has speed, and one thing about a majority of guys who hit triples is that they're not power guys," Lookouts hitting coach Chad Allen said. "That's an advantage Buxton has over a lot of people, because he not only can hit doubles and triples, but he can hit home runs. I'm not saying he's going to be a 30-home-run guy, but when you're able to add in the aspect that he can drive the ball, too, he's probably going to hit a few more triples than most people.

"He just glides around the bases, and it's absolutely phenomenal how many triples he has so far. A good year for him when he makes it to the big leagues will probably be 10 to 15 triples and 30 to 40 doubles, which for a lot of guys is phenomenal, but that's the kind of potential he has."

Allen and Mientkiewicz were with the Minnesota Twins in 2000 when Cristian Guzman tallied 20 triples, but most players don't come close to what Buxton is accomplishing. Mientkiewicz compiled 11 triples throughout his productive 12-year big-league career, while Allen had eight in his seven years in the majors.

Of course, inside-the-park homers make triples seem commonplace.

"When a ball gets hit in the gap, the first thought for everybody else is that it's a double," Allen said. "When he hits it, it's a legitimate chance for a triple. When that one hit off the wall, you're thinking, 'This may actually be a legitimate chance for an inside-the-parker,' because most people would be sliding into third and he's three-quarters of the way to home plate.

"He's a great kid who I love to death, and he's got a great future ahead of him."

A future that Buxton is keeping in perspective, even as he's stretching for third base.

"It is a little exciting," Buxton said. "I just want to keep doing what I've been doing and get on base for my teammates to drive me in."



I hope he doesn't get it - which hopefully means he's not there for the whole season.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 5:57:34 AM   
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Monday:

Roch lost 6-3
Rodriguez 2-4, Wilkin 1-3/double/2RBI, Arcia 1-3/double/BB/R, Fryer 1-3/double/BB/R/RBI

Wheeler 1-4 5IP 8H/4R/2Bb/2K
Darnell2IP 2H/2R/BB/3K
Hamburger IP 2K
O'Rourke IP H


Chatt rained out


FTM 5-3 win

Christensen 2-3/BB/2RBI/SB(7), Haar 2-4/R/RBI, Walker 2-4/BB/R, Goodrum 2-5,Knecht 1-3/BB/R

Gonsalves 1-0 5.1IP 5H/3R/3BB/2K/HR
Muren 1.2IP K/0-2 IRS
Van Steensel 2IP H/3K/Save(6)


CRapids 3 run7th, 4-2 win

Gordon 2-4/RBI, Schmit 2-4/double/R/2RBI, White 2-4/R/E(10),Corcino 1-4/R/SB(2)

Wilson 5-1 6IP 3H/2R/2BB/4K
Theofanopoulos 2IP K
Hildenberger IP BB/2K/Save(6)

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 12:44:48 PM   
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Chattanooga gets 7 Southern League All Stars: Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano, JO Berrios, AB Walker, Zack Jones, Jorge Polanco & DJ Baxendale.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 12:46:21 PM   
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the worm has turned for gordon.

has his footing now.

consistently getting 2 knocks a night
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 1:53:44 PM   
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Chattanooga gets 7 Southern League All Stars: Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano, JO Berrios, AB Walker, Zack Jones, Jorge Polanco & DJ Baxendale.

The Kansas City Royals of minor league baseball.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 1:57:29 PM   
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Chattanooga gets 7 Southern League All Stars: Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano, JO Berrios, AB Walker, Zack Jones, Jorge Polanco & DJ Baxendale.


Kepler snubbed.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 1:57:50 PM   
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the worm has turned for gordon.

has his footing now.

consistently getting 2 knocks a night


Yep. Must have made some adjustments. Kid will be fine.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/9/2015 2:35:15 PM   
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Has anyone heard good or bad about Levi Michael's ankle? It happened early May.

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