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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/5/2014 11:03:12 AM

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Not to mention that they use early picks for these grand experiments. I am concerned about size if he really is cranking it up to 95 mph at 165 lbs. A guy that small, throwing that hard is usually the result of a delivery that puts a lot of stress on the body. Some scouts are reserved on Berrios projections because of his size and he has at least 20 lbs on Buehler. I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but they should weigh that carefully before pulling the trigger on a pick that at #6.

He's done pretty well so far with heavy workloads. Good mechanics, Tim. So I wouldn't worry tooooo much. Though ya, it's a concern.

On Berrios, I used to have size concerns. I no longer do. Just because the guy is a FREAK about workouts. I've heard it from people in FL about how crazy his routines are, but now I've been Facebook following him for a few months and it's unreal the stuff he does. Seems to have a Kobe-like approach and that will only bode well for his continued development. I'm higher than ever on Berrios and think he's going to be a part of this rotation definitely by the end of the year. Could come much sooner.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/5/2014 3:07:40 PM

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Not to mention that they use early picks for these grand experiments. I am concerned about size if he really is cranking it up to 95 mph at 165 lbs. A guy that small, throwing that hard is usually the result of a delivery that puts a lot of stress on the body. Some scouts are reserved on Berrios projections because of his size and he has at least 20 lbs on Buehler. I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but they should weigh that carefully before pulling the trigger on a pick that at #6.

We get the power from the legs, so he might be a runner

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/22/2014 1:18:36 PM

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Twins also resigned Dan Rohlfing to a minor league deal.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/22/2014 1:23:07 PM

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The Minnesota Twins have signed former Red Wings first baseman Brock Peterson to a minor league contract.

Peterson, 31, spent the entire 2014 season in Triple-A splitting his year between Syracuse (Nationals) and Albuquerque (Dodgers) where he hit a combined .301 with 15 homers, 26 doubles and 67 RBI in 117 games.

The Centralia, Wash. native played in Rochester from 2008-10 hitting 31 homers and collecting 106 RBI over 238 games in a Red Wings uniform.

A 49th-round selection of the Twins in 2002, Peterson made his Major League debut in 2013 with the St. Louis Cardinals. Peterson also led the Pacific Coast League that year with 25 home runs and a .531 slugging percentage with Memphis.

Over his 12-year career, he's collected 186 home runs in 1,309 games.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/22/2014 1:30:23 PM

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Not to mention that they use early picks for these grand experiments. I am concerned about size if he really is cranking it up to 95 mph at 165 lbs. A guy that small, throwing that hard is usually the result of a delivery that puts a lot of stress on the body. Some scouts are reserved on Berrios projections because of his size and he has at least 20 lbs on Buehler. I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but they should weigh that carefully before pulling the trigger on a pick that at #6.

We get the power from the legs, so he might be a runner

True Jim. Louisiana Lightning Ron Guidry was 5'11" and 161 lbs. He had a pretty long career and was an innings monster by today's standards.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/22/2014 1:41:55 PM

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The band is all getting back together!

The problem is that the band more resembles a Phish cover band than it does the Beatles.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/23/2014 10:35:42 PM

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Remembering Ron Guidry: West Haven Yankees (AA) - awful mop-up reliever with bad control; when he came in, it was time to go home.
Obviously, Yankees figured something out on him - every since then, I've almost never written-off anybody.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/23/2014 11:29:35 PM

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Not to mention that they use early picks for these grand experiments. I am concerned about size if he really is cranking it up to 95 mph at 165 lbs. A guy that small, throwing that hard is usually the result of a delivery that puts a lot of stress on the body. Some scouts are reserved on Berrios projections because of his size and he has at least 20 lbs on Buehler. I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but they should weigh that carefully before pulling the trigger on a pick that at #6.

We get the power from the legs, so he might be a runner

True Jim. Louisiana Lightning Ron Guidry was 5'11" and 161 lbs. He had a pretty long career and was an innings monster by today's standards.

Pedro Martinez.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 9:58:21 AM

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Maturity Helps Rosario Rebound In ’14

December 16, 2014 by Phil Miller

MINNEAPOLIS—Eddie Rosario changed his number for the Arizona Fall League this season, wearing 16 instead of 2. Which prompts a question: How sure are we that it’s the same guy?

“That’s a good question,” said Mike Radcliff, the Twins’ vice president for player personnel. “If you talked to him last October and this year, you’d swear you’re talking to two different individuals. He’s calmer. He’s more mature. He’s a better teammate. He’s got his confidence back.”

And he’s starting to look like the middle-of-the-lineup weapon the Twins have expected him to become since drafting him as an 18-year-old out of Puerto Rico in 2010. Rosario batted .330/.345/.410 in the AFL, then went 4-for-5 in the championship game to carry Salt River to the title. He did one more thing, too: “He put himself back in our plans,” Radcliff said, “front and center,” making his addition to the Twins’ 40-man roster in November an easy call.

That’s a big change from last fall, when “he basically wasted everyone’s time” at the AFL,” Radcliff said. Rosario appeared lackadaisical about learning to play left field, and overwhelmed at the plate. He batted .238/.262/.275 in 20 games, swung at way too many bad pitches, and worst of all—though the Twins didn’t know it at the time—failed a drug test.

That positive test (for marijuana, he admitted later) cost Rosario a 50-game suspension, ruined his 2014 season, and hurt his relationship with the Twins and his teammates. He batted just .237/.277/.396 at Double-A New Britain and didn’t look like the same player.

“It wasn’t the easiest thing for a young guy to handle,” Radcliff said. “He had to earn his way back with a lot of people, including his teammates, and it got into his head. But kids make mistakes. He dealt with it and he’s bouncing back.”

It’s possible he might bounce all the way to the major leagues next season. The Twins have a vacancy in left field, and they remain intrigued by Rosario’s lefthanded bat. “This guy can hit,” Radcliff said. Not just hit, but have a real impact, even against lefties—it’s just a great swing. He’s got a little swagger. He knows he can hit anybody. That’s how he used to walk up to the plate, but he lost that for awhile. Now it’s back.”

TWIN KILLINGS

• Catcher Alex Real, the Twins’ 24th-round pick in 2014, has been suspended for 50 games after testing positive for an illegal stimulant. Real batted .284/.323/.375 at Rookie-level Elizabethton last season.

• Center fielder Eric Farris, who batted .280/.316/.356 in 133 games for Triple-A Rochester, signed another a minor league contract with an invitation to major league camp.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 10:00:25 AM

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Sano Prepares To Return After Lost Year

November 13, 2014 by Phil Miller

MINNEAPOLIS—It was just a game of catch on a practice diamond in Florida, nothing resembling actual baseball, but Miguel Sano couldn’t help attracting an audience. Terry Ryan stood and watched.

“He gets your attention. He looks like a ballplayer out there,” the Twins’ general manager said. “I watched him swing the bat and I watched him throw for a while, and he looks pretty healthy to me. He’s the same big, strong guy we remember.”

Sano will remember 2014 for the disappointment of an elbow injury in February that required Tommy John surgery, perhaps costing him a chance to climb to the major leagues already. He’ll open camp in 2015 with lowered expectations; the Twins want Sano, who blasted 35 home runs at high Class A and Double-A in 2013, to ease back into the game, probably at Double-A Chattanooga.

“He’ll have to re-establish himself,” Ryan said. He’s not going to be ready to make (the major league team) out of spring training. It’s been a long time since he’s faced a pitcher.”

The Twins even asked the 21-year-old Dominican to forgo winter ball and focus on spring camp. Sano’s rehab program wouldn’t have him ready for game action until mid-December, Twins minor league director Brad Steil said, “and we just decided that it wasn’t worth it for just a few at-bats.”

Sano will remain a third baseman, too, Ryan emphasized after triggering a brief social-media uproar with the suggestion that the 6-foot-4, 250-pounder might not be an infielder by the time he arrives in Minnesota. During a Q&A with season-ticket holders, Ryan answered a hypothetical question by saying Sano “could go to the outfield if he had to. … A lot of young players come up and change positions if they’re blocked by (an) established veteran.”

Ryan spent the next few days insisting that the team has no such plans.

“He could do it, I believe, but we’re not moving him,” Ryan said. “He’s a third baseman. Besides, his ticket up here is going to be that bat he possesses. That’s what has us so excited. He had a setback, OK, but that hasn’t changed how excited we are to get him on the field again.”

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 6:39:45 PM

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/royals-announce-deal-hander-volquez-211644064--mlb.html

ROYALS going to town and spending money!!

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 7:00:16 PM

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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/24921963/chris-parmelee-bolts-twins-in-favor-of-free-agency

Parmelee trying his luck elsewhere!!

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 7:16:48 PM

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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/24921963/chris-parmelee-bolts-twins-in-favor-of-free-agency

Parmelee trying his luck elsewhere!!

oh my. Whatever will we do?

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 7:36:12 PM

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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/24921963/chris-parmelee-bolts-twins-in-favor-of-free-agency

Parmelee trying his luck elsewhere!!

oh my. Whatever will we do?

No doubt has observed what the writing on the wall is.

Another draft pick BUST.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/29/2014 7:41:08 PM

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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/24921963/chris-parmelee-bolts-twins-in-favor-of-free-agency

Parmelee trying his luck elsewhere!!

oh my. Whatever will we do?

No doubt has observed what the writing on the wall is.

Another draft pick BUST.

Ed, sure he will find a gig somewhere....wasted time with the Twins....

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RE: Players and prospects III - 12/30/2014 7:34:33 AM

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http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/24921963/chris-parmelee-bolts-twins-in-favor-of-free-agency

Parmelee trying his luck elsewhere!!

oh my. Whatever will we do?

No doubt has observed what the writing on the wall is.

Another draft pick BUST.

Nah,

He'll sign with some other team...and be at minimum, solid. Maybe bat .295, Hit 25-30 dingdongs, Drive in 90.

He's not a bust. He's a former Twins prospect. They only suck here. It's when they go to another team that their career takes off.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/16/2015 11:46:00 AM

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Lots of time before it still, but for those interested:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/1/12/7528383/early-2015-mlb-draft-rankings

FWIW, the Twins have the #6, #72, #79 picks (forfeited our 2nd rder for Santana (uggh) but gained a competitive balance pick) Those slots could still change a bit based on the remaining free agent signings. Vandy is L-O-A-D-E-D this year. This team on paper is better than the CWS championship team they had last year.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 12:42:13 PM

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Law's latest farm system rankings. I wouldn't call Santana/Vargas "no help" last year. But whatever. Still very good. Rest of the rankings:

1-5: Cubs, Twins, Astros, Mets, Red Sox
Division: 2: Twins, 12: White Sox, 15: Royals, 16: Indians, 30: Tigers. The Tigers are in for a long, long fall from grace soon, guys.

1. Chicago Cubs

Take a moment to recover from your surprise ... The past 12 months have seemed more like a coronation for the Cubs than one for the teams that actually played in the World Series. The hype around their system is justified by the talent in it, with the strongest collection of top-shelf hitting prospects I can remember since I started working in baseball. They have someone coming at just about every position other than catcher and first base, and most of them fare well both in traditional evaluation and in analysis of their performance to date.
The Cubs' draft strategy under the Theo Epstein/Jed Hoyer regime has been to grab a polished hitter in the first round and load up on arms later. That, along with the trade of Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel that netted two more top hitting prospects, has produced a system that's full of hitting prospects but still a bit light on the pitching side. The first wave of bats reached the majors in the middle of 2014, with more coming this year, but there won't be enough at-bats for Javier Baez and Jorge Soler and Arismendy Alcantara and Addison Russell and Kyle Schwarber and Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo ... and that's not even everyone who might end up pushing for playing time. The Cubs are in prime position to flip a young hitter for a pitcher or even to swing a bigger deal, especially if they want to try to set themselves up to win the NL Central in 2016. There are young starting pitching prospects here to like, led by 20-year-old Duane Underwood, but they're all a few years away.

2. Minnesota Twins

The Twins return almost their entire top 10 intact but have added first-rounder Nick Gordon and a slew of college relievers who look like they'll move quickly to the high minors, and they continue to find value on the international front.
The flip side of this is the Twins got virtually no help from their farm system in 2014, but I expect that to change quickly this year, with Alex Meyer on the verge of the big leagues and Miguel Sano not far behind.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 12:48:43 PM

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Gordon #6 on MLB's top 10 SS prospect list:

6. Nick Gordon, Twins: The younger brother of Dee and son of Tom, Gordon was the No. 5 pick in the 2015 Draft, the first high school bat taken (one spot ahead of Alex Jackson). He had a solid summer debut as an 18-year-old in the Appalachian League and he should bring his solid all-around game to full-season ball as a teenager in 2015. If everything clicks, he might be the best Gordon to play in the big leagues.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 1:11:16 PM

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Gordon #6 on MLB's top 10 SS prospect list:

6. Nick Gordon, Twins: The younger brother of Dee and son of Tom, Gordon was the No. 5 pick in the 2015 Draft, the first high school bat taken (one spot ahead of Alex Jackson). He had a solid summer debut as an 18-year-old in the Appalachian League and he should bring his solid all-around game to full-season ball as a teenager in 2015. If everything clicks, he might be the best Gordon to play in the big leagues.

Said it before
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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 1:40:25 PM

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2. Minnesota Twins

The Twins return almost their entire top 10 intact but have added first-rounder Nick Gordon and a slew of college relievers who look like they'll move quickly to the high minors, and they continue to find value on the international front.
The flip side of this is the Twins got virtually no help from their farm system in 2014, but I expect that to change quickly this year, with Alex Meyer on the verge of the big leagues and Miguel Sano not far behind.

I'm confused. Whose system did Sanatana, Vargas and Arcia come out of?

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 1:50:05 PM

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Gordon #6 on MLB's top 10 SS prospect list:

6. Nick Gordon, Twins: The younger brother of Dee and son of Tom, Gordon was the No. 5 pick in the 2015 Draft, the first high school bat taken (one spot ahead of Alex Jackson). He had a solid summer debut as an 18-year-old in the Appalachian League and he should bring his solid all-around game to full-season ball as a teenager in 2015. If everything clicks, he might be the best Gordon to play in the big leagues.

Said it before
This kid is my next man-crush

Get on the bandwagon man. I've already been there for a year.

Tough not to believe the kid's going to be a very good player for us. Pretty safe pick IMO.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 2:01:17 PM

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Gordon #6 on MLB's top 10 SS prospect list:

6. Nick Gordon, Twins:

Said it before
This kid is my next man-crush

Get on the bandwagon man. I've already been there for a year.

A Gordon / Dustin / SMF 3 way?

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 2:16:30 PM

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Law's latest farm system rankings. I wouldn't call Santana/Vargas "no help" last year. But whatever. Still very good. Rest of the rankings:

1-5: Cubs, Twins, Astros, Mets, Red Sox
Division: 2: Twins, 12: White Sox, 15: Royals, 16: Indians, 30: Tigers. The Tigers are in for a long, long fall from grace soon, guys.

1. Chicago Cubs

Take a moment to recover from your surprise ... The past 12 months have seemed more like a coronation for the Cubs than one for the teams that actually played in the World Series. The hype around their system is justified by the talent in it, with the strongest collection of top-shelf hitting prospects I can remember since I started working in baseball. They have someone coming at just about every position other than catcher and first base, and most of them fare well both in traditional evaluation and in analysis of their performance to date.
The Cubs' draft strategy under the Theo Epstein/Jed Hoyer regime has been to grab a polished hitter in the first round and load up on arms later. That, along with the trade of Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel that netted two more top hitting prospects, has produced a system that's full of hitting prospects but still a bit light on the pitching side. The first wave of bats reached the majors in the middle of 2014, with more coming this year, but there won't be enough at-bats for Javier Baez and Jorge Soler and Arismendy Alcantara and Addison Russell and Kyle Schwarber and Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo ... and that's not even everyone who might end up pushing for playing time. The Cubs are in prime position to flip a young hitter for a pitcher or even to swing a bigger deal, especially if they want to try to set themselves up to win the NL Central in 2016. There are young starting pitching prospects here to like, led by 20-year-old Duane Underwood, but they're all a few years away.

2. Minnesota Twins

The Twins return almost their entire top 10 intact but have added first-rounder Nick Gordon and a slew of college relievers who look like they'll move quickly to the high minors, and they continue to find value on the international front.
The flip side of this is the Twins got virtually no help from their farm system in 2014, but I expect that to change quickly this year, with Alex Meyer on the verge of the big leagues and Miguel Sano not far behind.

Gibson, Santana, Vargas, May, and a couple relievers were all help in 2014....They were going to send Gibson to the minors and pull a Meyer trick on him.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 1/28/2015 2:35:34 PM

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Well, he was talking about "new" blood I'm sure. And yes, he neglected Vargas and Santana. But Arcia and Gibson were already here prior and May didn't really "help" last year. And they got very little from the farm in relief overall, mainly because of their own stupidity in not having Tonkin up for longer.

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