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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

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He should be celebrating that we live in such an anti racist country.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

David who is shooting more innocent Black people. Police or thugs. I don't buy the idea that White police come into work each day looking forward to shooting innocent Black citizens. I more suspect that police of all colors come into work each day thinking of the people of all colors and how they can protect them.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

David who is shooting more innocent Black people. Police or thugs. I don't buy the idea that White police come into work each day looking forward to shooting innocent Black citizens. I more suspect that police of all colors come into work each day thinking of the people of all colors and how they can protect them.

Statistics disagree with you.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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He should be celebrating that we live in such an anti racist country.

I've never seen a more clearly defined line of where the problem is on an issue. You think you can tell him how he 'should' act while justifying away any merit to his message and those who are following his lead. What next? Let me guess - he should give all his money back that he earned in this country if he hates it so much?

If his message is meaningless it will just go away on it's own. The defensive overreaction from 'Murica tells me it's more than that. If the shoe fits...

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

I think the 4 NBA players at the ESPYs went about it the right way. They at least acknowledged that there are self inflicted problems.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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He should be celebrating that we live in such an anti racist country.

I've never seen a more clearly defined line of where the problem is on an issue. You think you can tell him how he 'should' act while justifying away any merit to his message and those who are following his lead. What next? Let me guess - he should give all his money back that he earned in this country if he hates it so much?

If his message is meaningless it will just go away on it's own. The defensive overreaction from 'Murica tells me it's more than that. If the shoe fits...

No DF you give back all the money you have earned in our country if you hate it so much. If you love our country then quit siding with the people who hate it. I don't think I can tell Colin Kaepernick anything as I don't even know the man. However, I can state what I believe he should do as that is my right. He has a right to disrespect our country and I have a right to disrespect him.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

I think the 4 NBA players at the ESPYs went about it the right way. They at least acknowledged that there are self inflicted problems.

So only people with a pristine history of never doing anything wrong and belonging to an ethnicity that has never done anything wrong can make a stand and deliver a message asking for equality? Or before asking for equality we must disclose every last thing we've ever done wrong and/or our ethnicity has done wrong?

That doesn't seem reasonable to me. Hey - fix everything wrong with yourself before we stop harassing/beating/shooting you. You should just be happy to live here.

That just sounds horrible to me.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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He should be celebrating that we live in such an anti racist country.

I've never seen a more clearly defined line of where the problem is on an issue. You think you can tell him how he 'should' act while justifying away any merit to his message and those who are following his lead. What next? Let me guess - he should give all his money back that he earned in this country if he hates it so much?

If his message is meaningless it will just go away on it's own. The defensive overreaction from 'Murica tells me it's more than that. If the shoe fits...

No DF you give back all the money you have earned in our country if you hate it so much. If you love our country then quit siding with the people who hate it. I don't think I can tell Colin Kaepernick anything as I don't even know the man. However, I can state what I believe he should do as that is my right. He has a right to disrespect our country and I have a right to disrespect him.

NO YOU GIVE BACK ALL UR MONIEZ!!!!

lol this is so childish.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

I think the 4 NBA players at the ESPYs went about it the right way. They at least acknowledged that there are self inflicted problems.

So only people with a pristine history of never doing anything wrong and belonging to an ethnicity that has never done anything wrong can make a stand and deliver a message asking for equality? Or before asking for equality we must disclose every last thing we've ever done wrong and/or our ethnicity has done wrong?

That doesn't seem reasonable to me. Hey - fix everything wrong with yourself before we stop harassing/beating/shooting you. You should just be happy to live here.

That just sounds horrible to me.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

He is being disrespectful to the flag, but that's the point. His action is meant to draw attention to issues that are important to him.

I don't have a problem with him acting the way he is. he has that right.

I just don't care for his approach to the problem.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm not pleased to see this. (the piggy backing of Colin Kaepernick's protest. I won't comment more than this because this is a football thread.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/05/u-s-national-team-star-megan-rapinoe-kneels-as-a-nod-to-kaepernick/

I see an opposing team played the anthem before the players came out and she wasn't happy about it.

You would think she would be happy not having to put up with the National Anthem. Maybe she was mad that everyone would miss her 'look at me' moment.

Do you think it's about not having to put up with the National Anthem? Why the outrage over a guy who wants our society's culture changed for the better? Maybe it hits a nerve with 'Murica?

I think he is just another guy who doesn't want to bring up the self inflicted problems that these communities have(and if he has, I will admit I am wrong about him). He's taking the easy road.

JC said it best. Police brutality and bias, while evident, doesn't make the Top 5 in problems inner city communities have.

If white people were getting harassed, shot by police, discriminated against in hiring and housing the way minorities are now and made a stink about it - the group in power could say "Hey! Until you stop all this pedophilia and mass shootings we're not going to listen to your other, less significant problems."

I think the 4 NBA players at the ESPYs went about it the right way. They at least acknowledged that there are self inflicted problems.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

I believe that Kaep is disrespecting out country. I have no respect for his opinion. Back in the days that we were practicing separate, but supposedly equal he would have had a point. We as a country have really done everything within reason to combat racism. We may have even gone too far with hate crime laws. What more is there for us to do as a country?

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

I believe that Kaep is disrespecting out country. I have no respect for his opinion. Back in the days that we were practicing separate, but supposedly equal he would have had a point. We as a country have really done everything within reason to combat racism. We may have even gone too far with hate crime laws. What more is there for us to do as a country?

Don't get me started on Hate crime laws.

Punishing someone for their motive.

You assault someone it's assault. You assault someone because their not the same color as you it's apparently a greater crime.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

I believe that Kaep is disrespecting out country. I have no respect for his opinion. Back in the days that we were practicing separate, but supposedly equal he would have had a point. We as a country have really done everything within reason to combat racism. We may have even gone too far with hate crime laws. What more is there for us to do as a country?

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

You can love your country and still point out problems/suggest change.

I mean the founding fathers did exactly that. MLK, Lincoln, and countless others have done exactly that.

No problem with that at all. Point out all the problems you want, but what Kaepernick is doing is disrespecting our country.

The PC thing to do is to disagree with him, but respect his opinion.

Unless your opinion is that he is being disrespectful, then all bets are off.

I believe that Kaep is disrespecting out country. I have no respect for his opinion. Back in the days that we were practicing separate, but supposedly equal he would have had a point. We as a country have really done everything within reason to combat racism. We may have even gone too far with hate crime laws. What more is there for us to do as a country?

Kap is many things but how is protesting for a BETTER AMERICA disrespecting America?

That makes no sense

We have not even begun to do everything to combat racism when an outright racist like Trump is a nominee of a major party!

Seriously

We have a guy who based his campaign on racism, won, and you claim we are doing all we can?

pure nonsense