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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

Usually we have 4 qb's going in to camp every year.

Main reason is to get a look at all the other players and that would wear out let's say if you just had 2 qb's. The 4th PS game is normally played by the scrubs so none of your 53 get hurt.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

Usually we have 4 qb's going in to camp every year.

Main reason is to get a look at all the other players and that would wear out let's say if you just had 2 qb's. The 4th PS game is normally played by the scrubs so none of your 53 get hurt.

Thats right. With the undrafted rookie / extra camp arm usually dropped accordingly.

This year is different.

Now, our development project Sloter is ready to compete for a back-up spot. The ‘veteran’ we brought in is a veteran in name only and was given less guarenteed money than the UDFA camp arm - and the camp arm was made an offer that we probably dont wamt to lose as a PS casualty.

There seems to be a shift from the past formula of ... starter / below aveage but very experienced veteran backup (with a Practice Squad afterthought) ... to ... trying to develop potential starters behind the starter. Spielman must have had another epiphany after ‘OL drafted earlier are better.’

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

Usually we have 4 qb's going in to camp every year.

Main reason is to get a look at all the other players and that would wear out let's say if you just had 2 qb's. The 4th PS game is normally played by the scrubs so none of your 53 get hurt.

Thats right. With the undrafted rookie / extra camp arm usually dropped accordingly.

This year is different.

Now, our development project Sloter is ready to compete for a back-up spot. The ‘veteran’ we brought in is a veteran in name only and was given less guarenteed money than the UDFA camp arm - and the camp arm was made an offer that we probably dont wamt to lose as a PS casualty.

There seems to be a shift from the past formula of ... starter / below aveage but very experienced veteran backup (with a Practice Squad afterthought) ... to ... trying to develop potential starters behind the starter. Spielman must have had another epiphany after ‘OL drafted earlier are better.’

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ORIGINAL: Pager

We also got outbid on Siemian otherwise we would be doing the same thing all over again.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

We also got outbid on Siemian otherwise we would be doing the same thing all over again.

Semien isn't the same as Hill...he actually is somewhat young yet....Hill, not so much.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Finding experienced depth at back-up QB early in FA has always been a top offseason priority.

Previous Backup QB approach:

2012 Rosenfels signed 3-13
2013 Cassel signed 3-14
2014 Cassel signed 3-11 (re-signed)
2015 Hill signed 3-11 (Traded Cassel 3-10)
2016 Hill under contract
2017 Keenum signed 4-3 (Cassel traded 3-10)
2018 Siemian traded for 3-19

Mannion is not a backup QB with starting experience ... signed early in FA to take over if Cousins goes down. He feels more like, 'let's get some competition in here that we can afford before the well is completely dry'.

Current Backup QB approach:

2019 Bump Sloter to backup QB.

Go with young talent and complete inexperience over no talent but starting experience.

Going after franchise QB Cousins hard, bringing in and keeping young talented Sloter, bringing in backup competition like Mannion – an untested veteran in his prime (rather than an experienced has-been), and continuing to spend big on young dev projects

... is a change in approach.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Finding experienced depth at back-up QB early in FA has always been a top offseason priority.

Previous Backup QB approach:

2012 Rosenfels signed 3-13
2013 Cassel signed 3-14
2014 Cassel signed 3-11 (re-signed)
2015 Hill signed 3-11 (Traded Cassel 3-10)
2016 Hill under contract
2017 Keenum signed 4-3 (Cassel traded 3-10)
2018 Siemian traded for 3-19

Mannion is not a backup QB with starting experience ... signed early in FA to take over if Cousins goes down. He feels more like, 'let's get some competition in here that we can afford before the well is completely dry'.

Current Backup QB approach:

2019 Bump Sloter to backup QB.

Go with young talent and complete inexperience over no talent but starting experience.

Going after franchise QB Cousins hard, bringing in and keeping young talented Sloter, bringing in backup competition like Mannion – an untested veteran in his prime (rather than an experienced has-been), and continuing to spend big on young dev projects

... is a change in approach.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I think what it boils down to is that if Cousins goes down, we're screwed.

Yet another area where you are wrong Sweens.

Sloter comes in, and it looks the the QBing IMPROVES, more early leads, more scoring, the team becomes a contender.

At least, from what I have seen from Sloter so far. Seems to have passed every test, looking forward to seeing him play with the 1st team offense.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

We already have Browning ahead of Mannion? I like it if that is true. He was one of the highest rated QB prospects ever entering college and was PAC12 PotY his sophomore season. I think there is something there. Shoulder injuries sapped some of his arm strength, but maybe he can fully recover.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I think what it boils down to is that if Cousins goes down, we're screwed.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Finding experienced depth at back-up QB early in FA has always been a top offseason priority.

Previous Backup QB approach:

2012 Rosenfels signed 3-13
2013 Cassel signed 3-14
2014 Cassel signed 3-11 (re-signed)
2015 Hill signed 3-11 (Traded Cassel 3-10)
2016 Hill under contract
2017 Keenum signed 4-3 (Cassel traded 3-10)
2018 Siemian traded for 3-19

Mannion is not a backup QB with starting experience ... signed early in FA to take over if Cousins goes down. He feels more like, 'let's get some competition in here that we can afford before the well is completely dry'.

Current Backup QB approach:

2019 Bump Sloter to backup QB.

Go with young talent and complete inexperience over no talent but starting experience.

Going after franchise QB Cousins hard, bringing in and keeping young talented Sloter, bringing in backup competition like Mannion – an untested veteran in his prime (rather than an experienced has-been), and continuing to spend big on young dev projects

... is a change in approach.

They were outbid for Siemian. No cap room for anyone else. Is a forced change in approach. You honestly think Zimmer wouldn't want a warm cuddly no talent but starting experience security blanket?

But like many things, we can agree to disagree.

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

We already have Browning ahead of Mannion? I like it if that is true. He was one of the highest rated QB prospects ever entering college and was PAC12 PotY his sophomore season. I think there is something there. Shoulder injuries sapped some of his arm strength, but maybe he can fully recover.

Yeah.

No.

He’s weak, slow, and a bit of a punk.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Tells you how secure Mannion is ... seems like he ousts Sloter or is gone (i.e. he's no more than a competitive tool to push Sloter) with our lineup most likely: Cousins-starter, Sloter-Back-up, Browning-dev/3rd string

Andrew Krammer
‏@Andrew_Krammer
19m19 minutes ago

"It was somewhere that wanted me, so I wanted to be here." The #Vikings guaranteed more to undrafted QB Jake Browning ($140K) than free-agent QB Sean Mannion ($90K).

We already have Browning ahead of Mannion? I like it if that is true. He was one of the highest rated QB prospects ever entering college and was PAC12 PotY his sophomore season. I think there is something there. Shoulder injuries sapped some of his arm strength, but maybe he can fully recover.

Yeah.

No.

He’s weak, slow, and a bit of a punk.

And the PAC12 season and career record holder in just about every QB stat including wins so I guess we can add WINNER.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I think what it boils down to is that if Cousins goes down, we're screwed.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: marty

I think what it boils down to is that if Cousins goes down, we're screwed.

Yet another area where you are wrong Sweens.

Sloter comes in, and it looks the the QBing IMPROVES, more early leads, more scoring, the team becomes a contender.

At least, from what I have seen from Sloter so far. Seems to have passed every test, looking forward to seeing him play with the 1st team offense.

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Watching Sloter pile up yards on third string defenses really fills you with visions of Super Bowls, eh? Serious, I can't believe you kept a straight face long enough to type that.