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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

Your negativity regarding Rudy is mind blowing. He has done nothing, but good for the Vikings ever since being here.

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I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

Alex Smith added value to the Chiefs offense as well. See my point?

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

Alex Smith added value to the Chiefs offense as well. See my point?

We don't have the Mahomes of TEs waiting as a back-up.

Although, I think we have similar views on this one.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

That's Rudolph whistling in the background ... staring at his shoes ... trying to go unnoticed.


Chris Tomasson
‏@christomasson
2h2 hours ago

Class gesture by #Vikings linebacker Eric Kendricks to restructure his contract to give the team room to sign Garrett Bradbury today.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

Alex Smith added value to the Chiefs offense as well. See my point?

We don't have the Mahomes of TEs waiting as a back-up.

Although, I think we have similar views on this one.

How would we ever find out what we have waiting for tight ends if Rudy continues to get 95% of the targets? Who have we passed over in the draft while drafting the Willie Beavers and TJ Clemmings of the world?

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

Alex Smith added value to the Chiefs offense as well. See my point?

We don't have the Mahomes of TEs waiting as a back-up.

Although, I think we have similar views on this one.

How would we ever find out what we have waiting for tight ends if Rudy continues to get 95% of the targets? Who have we passed over in the draft while drafting the Willie Beavers and TJ Clemmings of the world?

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

That's Rudolph whistling in the background ... staring at his shoes ... trying to go unnoticed.


Chris Tomasson
‏@christomasson
2h2 hours ago

Class gesture by #Vikings linebacker Eric Kendricks to restructure his contract to give the team room to sign Garrett Bradbury today.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

That's Rudolph whistling in the background ... staring at his shoes ... trying to go unnoticed.


Chris Tomasson
‏@christomasson
2h2 hours ago

Class gesture by #Vikings linebacker Eric Kendricks to restructure his contract to give the team room to sign Garrett Bradbury today.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

That's Rudolph whistling in the background ... staring at his shoes ... trying to go unnoticed.


Chris Tomasson
‏@christomasson
2h2 hours ago

Class gesture by #Vikings linebacker Eric Kendricks to restructure his contract to give the team room to sign Garrett Bradbury today.

Not a classy move by Rudolph.

I hope the fans at the Bank when he is introduced let him know it.

I'm not a Rudolph hater either. I wanted to keep him this season. But not so much now.

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You did all that research on your own, Pager? Awesome stuff!

I don't think any team covets Rudolph as much as the Vikings. If we cut him, he will come back here for less. Of course he won't be happy.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

I pulled the TEs out of the top 75 pass catchers in total YAC and figured out the average YAC per reception. In order they are as follows:

Josh Hill: 10.63
George Kittle: 9.89
Jonnu Smith: 9.00
Evan Engram: 8.62
Vance McDonald: 7.74
Vernon Davis: 7.00
Geoff Swaim: 6.31
Ryan Griffin: 6.25
Jesse James: 6.17
OJ Howard: 6.15
Travis Kelce: 5.52
David Njoku: 5.46
Jared Cook: 5.04
Dallas Goedert: 4.88
Jimmy Graham: 4.75
CJ Ozumah: 4.70
Chris Herndon IV: 4.54
Ian Thomas: 4.39
Jordan Reed: 4.28
Gronk: 3.87
Rudy!: 3.83
Eric Ebron: 3.79
Trey Burton: 3.52
Zach Ertz: 3.04

I think we can safely move forward with 'Rudy doesn't get a lot of YAC'.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

Your negativity regarding Rudy is mind blowing. He has done nothing, but good for the Vikings ever since being here.

I don't dislike him personally - never met him except for one quick 'hi' at the hotel. Loved him early on. Going forward I think he's a poor choice given his diminishing talents and skills and his high amount of cap space. What's so negative or (responding to other posters) emotional about that?

I want to win a Super Bowl. Now on that point I indeed can be emotional. I wouldn't be a fan otherwise.

In my opinion it's some of you who are emotional and dare I say defensive about facing the facts about a hero in his decline.

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You did all that research on your own, Pager? Awesome stuff!

I don't think any team covets Rudolph as much as the Vikings. If we cut him, he will come back here for less. Of course he won't be happy.

I did. I got tired of speculation that there was this huge market for Kyle. And I gotta keep up with the great info you provide [;)]

I agree, on the first part. Second part, has this ever happened? A team cuts a player instead of pay cut/restructure and then they resign with the same team? I can't remember a time when it happened, idk.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

I pulled the TEs out of the top 75 pass catchers in total YAC and figured out the average YAC per reception. In order they are as follows:

Josh Hill: 10.63
George Kittle: 9.89
Jonnu Smith: 9.00
Evan Engram: 8.62
Vance McDonald: 7.74
Vernon Davis: 7.00
Geoff Swaim: 6.31
Ryan Griffin: 6.25
Jesse James: 6.17
OJ Howard: 6.15
Travis Kelce: 5.52
David Njoku: 5.46
Jared Cook: 5.04
Dallas Goedert: 4.88
Jimmy Graham: 4.75
CJ Ozumah: 4.70
Chris Herndon IV: 4.54
Ian Thomas: 4.39
Jordan Reed: 4.28
Gronk: 3.87
Rudy!: 3.83
Eric Ebron: 3.79
Trey Burton: 3.52
Zach Ertz: 3.04

I think we can safely move forward with 'Rudy doesn't get a lot of YAC'.

Rudy's placement is exactly what I already reported. There are about 100 TEs in the NFL. Even if you only count starting TEs he is probably about middle of the pack. I think some of those TEs you listed aren't starters. Rudy was better than Ebron, Burton and Ertz and Barely behind Gronk. You all acting like Rudy's YAC is this huge negative are simply proven wrong by the facts.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I think Kyle adds value. Just not 8M in value. I'm more than ok moving on from him. But if they can get this worked out, I think that would be ideal.

Alex Smith added value to the Chiefs offense as well. See my point?

We don't have the Mahomes of TEs waiting as a back-up.

Although, I think we have similar views on this one.

How would we ever find out what we have waiting for tight ends if Rudy continues to get 95% of the targets? Who have we passed over in the draft while drafting the Willie Beavers and TJ Clemmings of the world?

95% of what targets? He hardly gets any targets (compared to 150 each to Thielen/Diggs)....which is why I think it would be fine to let him go.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

You did all that research on your own, Pager? Awesome stuff!

I don't think any team covets Rudolph as much as the Vikings. If we cut him, he will come back here for less. Of course he won't be happy.

I did. I got tired of speculation that there was this huge market for Kyle. And I gotta keep up with the great info you provide [;)]

I agree, on the first part. Second part, has this ever happened? A team cuts a player instead of pay cut/restructure and then they resign with the same team? I can't remember a time when it happened, idk.

Nobody said there was a huge market for Rudy. There is a market for Rudy and no way in Hell would the Vikings cut him. Not unless some disaster struck where we urgently needed his cap space and there was no other way to get it.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

I pulled the TEs out of the top 75 pass catchers in total YAC and figured out the average YAC per reception. In order they are as follows:

Josh Hill: 10.63
George Kittle: 9.89
Jonnu Smith: 9.00
Evan Engram: 8.62
Vance McDonald: 7.74
Vernon Davis: 7.00
Geoff Swaim: 6.31
Ryan Griffin: 6.25
Jesse James: 6.17
OJ Howard: 6.15
Travis Kelce: 5.52
David Njoku: 5.46
Jared Cook: 5.04
Dallas Goedert: 4.88
Jimmy Graham: 4.75
CJ Ozumah: 4.70
Chris Herndon IV: 4.54
Ian Thomas: 4.39
Jordan Reed: 4.28
Gronk: 3.87
Rudy!: 3.83
Eric Ebron: 3.79
Trey Burton: 3.52
Zach Ertz: 3.04

I think we can safely move forward with 'Rudy doesn't get a lot of YAC'.

Rudy's placement is exactly what I already reported. There are about 100 TEs in the NFL. Even if you only count starting TEs he is probably about middle of the pack. I think some of those TEs you listed aren't starters. Rudy was better than Ebron, Burton and Ertz and Barely behind Gronk. You all acting like Rudy's YAC is this huge negative are simply proven wrong by the facts.

You said receivers not tight ends. I can add more TEs to that list and I doubt If Rudolph moves up at all.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

You did all that research on your own, Pager? Awesome stuff!

I don't think any team covets Rudolph as much as the Vikings. If we cut him, he will come back here for less. Of course he won't be happy.

I did. I got tired of speculation that there was this huge market for Kyle. And I gotta keep up with the great info you provide [;)]

I agree, on the first part. Second part, has this ever happened? A team cuts a player instead of pay cut/restructure and then they resign with the same team? I can't remember a time when it happened, idk.

Nobody said there was a huge market for Rudy. There is a market for Rudy and no way in Hell would the Vikings cut him. Not unless some disaster struck where we urgently needed his cap space and there was no other way to get it.

Do you remember your past arguments? Ever?

Your arguments (until this post): There are trade offers for him (or was that a bunch of lies) and he wouldn't get cut (why cut him when you can get something in return?). If he did get cut he would make as much or more. Hyberbole for "huge" in my post, but either of the above would need enough market demand to make that happen. I don't see it.

I'm not sure the Vikings are done with the cap. We are significantly over next year, and any cap space this year rolls over. I don't think this is the last of this topic.

But I'm now disinterested.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Yay! Now we can use $7.6 million of cap space so an aging fan favorite can catch three passes for 27 yards and get tackled at the moment of first contact regardless of where the first down marker is and stunt the growth of a young, fast, talented, athletic and cheap tight end. All those trade offers though! Oh how I wonder what troves of treasure Rick must have turned down.

In the end the Vikings organization didn't have the balls to cut him. Enjoy mediocrity for another season Rick and Co.!

9-7 and miss the playoffs. Carve that in a rock.

I read that Rudolph was the #21 receiver in YAC per reception last year. There are approximately 100 TEs in the NFL. Reports of him not getting YAC seem to be exaggerated.

You mean #88 in YAC per reception? Even if you are talking strictly TE, there are 32 starting TE in the NFL.

I pulled the TEs out of the top 75 pass catchers in total YAC and figured out the average YAC per reception. In order they are as follows:

Josh Hill: 10.63
George Kittle: 9.89
Jonnu Smith: 9.00
Evan Engram: 8.62
Vance McDonald: 7.74
Vernon Davis: 7.00
Geoff Swaim: 6.31
Ryan Griffin: 6.25
Jesse James: 6.17
OJ Howard: 6.15
Travis Kelce: 5.52
David Njoku: 5.46
Jared Cook: 5.04
Dallas Goedert: 4.88
Jimmy Graham: 4.75
CJ Ozumah: 4.70
Chris Herndon IV: 4.54
Ian Thomas: 4.39
Jordan Reed: 4.28
Gronk: 3.87
Rudy!: 3.83
Eric Ebron: 3.79
Trey Burton: 3.52
Zach Ertz: 3.04

I think we can safely move forward with 'Rudy doesn't get a lot of YAC'.

Rudy's placement is exactly what I already reported. There are about 100 TEs in the NFL. Even if you only count starting TEs he is probably about middle of the pack. I think some of those TEs you listed aren't starters. Rudy was better than Ebron, Burton and Ertz and Barely behind Gronk. You all acting like Rudy's YAC is this huge negative are simply proven wrong by the facts.

You said receivers not tight ends. I can add more TEs to that list and I doubt If Rudolph moves up at all.

I obviously meant TEs. Add away, but it's funny how you have Rudy at 21 which is exactly what I reported already. So what disagreement is there? It seems Rudy is in the top 20% of TEs in YAC.