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Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:04:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. And it sounds like he trusts PFF more than he does his own eyes

Dana Turner -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:05:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Are any of you regretting the choice of Cousins now, or do you all agree that the window of opportunity for a Super Bowl is open with him? I'm sure all the week 4 cliff jumpers will be piping in on this subject. Speaking of the cliff jumpers... <crickets> The problem with a post like this (and I don't mean any disrespect at all here) is that Cousins resume is filled with moments where he has the opportunity to be clutch, and fails. I'm not trying to be down on the guy, it is just a fact that when the pressure starts to mount, he has a difficult time dealing with it in a positive way. Hell, this happened many time in Washington, but really, you can go through his short history here and see it clearly. Dont even mention the ends of the games, hell, just go to the ends of the first half in many games he's played since we signed him. Many chances to deliver going in to halftime and he falls short. People don't even talk about that, but really, it's just as important as the end of the game, it's just another stressful moment that he can't (well, hasen't been able to) navigate. Sorry, I certainly don't want to pile on any one phase of the team that failed on Sunday, we all saw many areas of the team that simply blew it or under-performed. The list has been well documented, I just wanted to point out that it's not really about jumping off a cliff, it's about seeing what is possible and what isn't. Cousins has some very serious arm talent when things are going well and there isn't a lot of pressure to perform. He just doesn't behave well when the pressure is on, that's been on display for a few years now, there is no shame in admitting it.

Dana Turner -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:08:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. And it sounds like he trusts PFF more than he does his own eyes Looks like there are two different sets of numbers being looked at. The first chart is showing the ranking of the CB's against each other, not their PFF yearly score. the second set of numbers for Mac is his PFF score for the year, not his ranking against the other corners. Easy to see why it got confused.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:09:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Dave and Pager - must of been a heck of an experience attending that game. Too bad they couldn't of pulled it out for you. The environment to follow would of been super nuts. - I made the comment on Game Day that I wish I could mute the announcers and just listen to the crowd. It was football heaven. Tailgating in all directions immediately adjacent to the stadium. Fans everywhere. Cheaper food and faster bathrooms. Glad to hear it. Hopefully it'll come around soon again. I've been to several baseball games but not the Arrowhead experience What Dave said. Great venue for tailgating. The stadium is 4th or 5th oldest, built in 1972, but really is a great fan experience. I expect to be back in 8 years when we play there again. Parking lots blocks away were advertising $20 spots! Here in Denver, they would go for $50 minimum. I drove the 9 hours to KC early Saturday morning. A friend, who wanted to road-trip backed out last minute. I drop the 9 hours back after the game, had work early Monday morning. A win would have made the drive so much better!! When the Vikes played at Mile High I estimated the pro-MN crowd at 30-35%. At arrowhead, I thought 40%-45%. Griff, during several delays, led the Skol chant and we responded.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:27:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dana Turner quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Are any of you regretting the choice of Cousins now, or do you all agree that the window of opportunity for a Super Bowl is open with him? I'm sure all the week 4 cliff jumpers will be piping in on this subject. Speaking of the cliff jumpers... <crickets> The problem with a post like this (and I don't mean any disrespect at all here) is that Cousins resume is filled with moments where he has the opportunity to be clutch, and fails. I'm not trying to be down on the guy, it is just a fact that when the pressure starts to mount, he has a difficult time dealing with it in a positive way. Hell, this happened many time in Washington, but really, you can go through his short history here and see it clearly. Dont even mention the ends of the games, hell, just go to the ends of the first half in many games he's played since we signed him. Many chances to deliver going in to halftime and he falls short. People don't even talk about that, but really, it's just as important as the end of the game, it's just another stressful moment that he can't (well, hasen't been able to) navigate. Sorry, I certainly don't want to pile on any one phase of the team that failed on Sunday, we all saw many areas of the team that simply blew it or under-performed. The list has been well documented, I just wanted to point out that it's not really about jumping off a cliff, it's about seeing what is possible and what isn't. Cousins has some very serious arm talent when things are going well and there isn't a lot of pressure to perform. He just doesn't behave well when the pressure is on, that's been on display for a few years now, there is no shame in admitting it. I thought he was clutch in the games against the Eagles and Detroit. Eagles pull close, and Cousins responded. Defense couldn't stop Stafford, Cousins was outstanding. Cousin started horrible against Chiefs, no doubt. He also helped get us the lead several times, with no run game, questionable game plan/play calling, serious pressure, throwing to a 7th rounder and a guy that got cut and resigned a few weeks ago (he missed Diggs deep and I saw Diggs open deep another time - IDK if he broke open before Cousins was pulling the trigger elsewhere). After last season and through the GB game, the narrative was all he does is turn the ball over. He has 1 INT (on Diggs) the last 5 games. I can't argue against the opinion that we won't win the Superbowl with the Cousins. I agree it's unlikely that he Flacco's us there, but I still think we can make noise if we play team ball.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 9:57:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dana Turner quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Are any of you regretting the choice of Cousins now, or do you all agree that the window of opportunity for a Super Bowl is open with him? I'm sure all the week 4 cliff jumpers will be piping in on this subject. Speaking of the cliff jumpers... <crickets> The problem with a post like this (and I don't mean any disrespect at all here) is that Cousins resume is filled with moments where he has the opportunity to be clutch, and fails. I'm not trying to be down on the guy, it is just a fact that when the pressure starts to mount, he has a difficult time dealing with it in a positive way. Hell, this happened many time in Washington, but really, you can go through his short history here and see it clearly. Dont even mention the ends of the games, hell, just go to the ends of the first half in many games he's played since we signed him. Many chances to deliver going in to halftime and he falls short. People don't even talk about that, but really, it's just as important as the end of the game, it's just another stressful moment that he can't (well, hasen't been able to) navigate. Sorry, I certainly don't want to pile on any one phase of the team that failed on Sunday, we all saw many areas of the team that simply blew it or under-performed. The list has been well documented, I just wanted to point out that it's not really about jumping off a cliff, it's about seeing what is possible and what isn't. Cousins has some very serious arm talent when things are going well and there isn't a lot of pressure to perform. He just doesn't behave well when the pressure is on, that's been on display for a few years now, there is no shame in admitting it. I guess my post was more about a 4 game winning streak and 80% of the posters disappear. 1 loss, and their back, ripping on the team. Not talking about you Dana, of course.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/5/2019 11:07:56 PM)
Florio says that it's better for us to expect a loss on Sunday night. I'm still not thinking that way. I would consider some lineup changes to shake things up a bit on both offense and defense. It's time to bench Rhodes and Elflein. Maybe it's time to push Smith ahead of Rudolph, too. I like to be hopeful, but I also like to say there should be a reason to be hopeful.

Dana Turner -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 12:45:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Florio says that it's better for us to expect a loss on Sunday night. I'm still not thinking that way. I would consider some lineup changes to shake things up a bit on both offense and defense. It's time to bench Rhodes and Elflein. Maybe it's time to push Smith ahead of Rudolph, too. I like to be hopeful, but I also like to say there should be a reason to be hopeful. Not sure about Smith over Rudolph, I believe that group is performing at a high level and are all instrumental in the run game. Rhodes can sit, hell I'm not sure he can't be outplayed by Boyd (kidding). I do believe Rhodes has been masking something that is bothering him for the past two years. I think the guy is not physically 100%, regardless, he's a liability out there and if Waynes is going to insist on covering guys like a blanket only to have zero ball awareness, then we can't have them both on the field. We have to try to take something away. Also, not sure if Kearse was being punished, but sure could have used him in coverage against their big TE at the end of the game, that 2nd and 24 pass for 21 yards was a killer and was defensible with a bigger cover guy. I have been waiting for the all 22 to come out to review the blocking in the game, but from what I saw on the initial replay of the game, there is plenty of blame to go around. (and on that screen play that Bradbury gets called for being down field, he was 1 yard past the LOS when the ball leaves cousins hand.) The problem with that play is that Cousins throws a total floater over the hands of the defender and when we finally catch the pass, Bradbury is five yards down field, but the call should be from when the ball is released, not when it is caught. He was within one yard of the LOS.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 2:04:30 AM)
Every team in our division lost, Sunday. We lost a close game on the road to a damn good team, that made plays when they needed them and got incredibly lucky with some potential game changing turnovers, generated by our “ not elite defense”. This loss was painfull, as we had many various opportunities to take command. We got “bad cousins” right out of the gate, and penalties and accuracy on passing plays hurt us badly. Lots of blame. To all of you cousins and rudolf and Zimmer hate mongers and trolls... join a board that helps you get into that self suck, group cluster bitch fest mode and have a field day. This is a good team, I’m sorry you can’t have the. 72. Dolphins every stinking year. Wait... no I’m not.... SKOL VIKINGS!! My team, win or lose.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 4:58:57 AM)
We couldn't beat Matt frickin Moore or Chase Daniels. People can say we're a good team all day long and that's fine but are we really? I think this week is a great chance to show that we are a good team. Another shot in prime time against a decent team. If we want to make the playoffs this one feels like a biggie. Do we get it done? History lately says no. It feels like the offense is going to have to put up 30. I know they're capable of that. Now go get it done. Also I'm pretty sure that anyone who takes time to post on a Vikings forum and really wants the team to win would consider the Vikings THElR team! Just because people don't hold the exact same views doesn't mean they're "trolls".

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 6:11:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. Your right. I was looking at backwards.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 6:33:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. Your right. I was looking at backwards. in 2020 it'll be hughes, hill and alexander...we'll give alexander a nice signing bonus and bring down his cap hit the first couple of years...also, we'll draft a cb round 2/3 and another in round 6/7 next year....

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 6:53:09 AM)
If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:02:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here So who are you calling out as being crickets? Just curious.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:09:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here So who are you calling out as being crickets? Just curious. Look who posts most after losses...is it you?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:14:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here So who are you calling out as being crickets? Just curious. Look who posts most after losses...is it you? So is that the barometer for fandom now? If you post more after a loss you're a sucky poster? So if you're happy after a win and don't post as much you're a crappy person? I'm just asking questions. Not directed at anyone in particular.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:17:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here If we finish the season 4-3 = 10-6 record we will make the playoffs. Packers have mostly road games left after the panthers this Sunday. They looked over matched against a 3-5 LAC team. If we can finish 11-5 I think we can win the division

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:28:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. Your right. I was looking at backwards. 1.87 would be pretty bad

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 7:43:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: odin quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Yep my bad. The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue. Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment. The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value. PFF CB scores 2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st 2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st 2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd 2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting. Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them. I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were: 2016: 47.5 2017: 54.1 2018: 78.1 2019: 69.0 Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different. 78.1 seems purty good. Your right. I was looking at backwards. 1.87 would be pretty bad [&:]

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 8:23:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Dave and Pager - must of been a heck of an experience attending that game. Too bad they couldn't of pulled it out for you. The environment to follow would of been super nuts. - I made the comment on Game Day that I wish I could mute the announcers and just listen to the crowd. It was football heaven. Tailgating in all directions immediately adjacent to the stadium. Fans everywhere. Cheaper food and faster bathrooms. Glad to hear it. Hopefully it'll come around soon again. I've been to several baseball games but not the Arrowhead experience What Dave said. Great venue for tailgating. The stadium is 4th or 5th oldest, built in 1972, but really is a great fan experience. I expect to be back in 8 years when we play there again. Parking lots blocks away were advertising $20 spots! Here in Denver, they would go for $50 minimum. I drove the 9 hours to KC early Saturday morning. A friend, who wanted to road-trip backed out last minute. I drop the 9 hours back after the game, had work early Monday morning. A win would have made the drive so much better!! When the Vikes played at Mile High I estimated the pro-MN crowd at 30-35%. At arrowhead, I thought 40%-45%. Griff, during several delays, led the Skol chant and we responded. i love it...pager, great experience, i'm sure - some of my best road trips have been solo....

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 8:58:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Dave and Pager - must of been a heck of an experience attending that game. Too bad they couldn't of pulled it out for you. The environment to follow would of been super nuts. - I made the comment on Game Day that I wish I could mute the announcers and just listen to the crowd. It was football heaven. Tailgating in all directions immediately adjacent to the stadium. Fans everywhere. Cheaper food and faster bathrooms. Glad to hear it. Hopefully it'll come around soon again. I've been to several baseball games but not the Arrowhead experience What Dave said. Great venue for tailgating. The stadium is 4th or 5th oldest, built in 1972, but really is a great fan experience. I expect to be back in 8 years when we play there again. Parking lots blocks away were advertising $20 spots! Here in Denver, they would go for $50 minimum. I drove the 9 hours to KC early Saturday morning. A friend, who wanted to road-trip backed out last minute. I drop the 9 hours back after the game, had work early Monday morning. A win would have made the drive so much better!! When the Vikes played at Mile High I estimated the pro-MN crowd at 30-35%. At arrowhead, I thought 40%-45%. Griff, during several delays, led the Skol chant and we responded. i love it...pager, great experience, i'm sure - some of my best road trips have been solo.... Maybe next time I can make it to KC with some of you guys. There's some family in the area so we could kill 2 birds with one stone.

The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 9:15:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here If we finish the season 4-3 = 10-6 record we will make the playoffs. Packers have mostly road games left after the panthers this Sunday. They looked over matched against a 3-5 LAC team. If we can finish 11-5 I think we can win the division Has anything transpired over the first 9 games that makes you think that will happen?

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 9:18:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here If we finish the season 4-3 = 10-6 record we will make the playoffs. Packers have mostly road games left after the panthers this Sunday. They looked over matched against a 3-5 LAC team. If we can finish 11-5 I think we can win the division Has anything transpired over the first 9 games that makes you think that will happen? Yes....5 of our next 6 games are on turf. Our 3 losses are on grass (Chicago, KC, GB)....We are 6-0 on turf.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 9:38:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer We couldn't beat Matt frickin Moore or Chase Daniels. People can say we're a good team all day long and that's fine but are we really? I think this week is a great chance to show that we are a good team. Another shot in prime time against a decent team. If we want to make the playoffs this one feels like a biggie. Do we get it done? History lately says no. It feels like the offense is going to have to put up 30. I know they're capable of that. Now go get it done. Also I'm pretty sure that anyone who takes time to post on a Vikings forum and really wants the team to win would consider the Vikings THElR team! Just because people don't hold the exact same views doesn't mean they're "trolls". That game was lost once Trubisky was injured. This is a very big game, a chance to show we are a legit contender against a playoff team in their house. No excuses, Garrett is a terrible coach and they're coming off a short week. Though I will say this Dallas team is one of the best in the league on paper, don't be fooled by the Jets game they were missing both starting tackles and they also lost Cooper that game.

Ragnarök -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/6/2019 9:42:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J If we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs fine. Then I guess we suck. We just played 4 weeks of great football then lost to a good team on the road and it's almost impossible to read the posts of how bad we suck. So, let me see if I got this straight Todd: if we beat Dallas (and screw Mike F like he's any more accurate than flipping a F'n coin) it'll be back to crickets around here If we finish the season 4-3 = 10-6 record we will make the playoffs. Packers have mostly road games left after the panthers this Sunday. They looked over matched against a 3-5 LAC team. If we can finish 11-5 I think we can win the division Has anything transpired over the first 9 games that makes you think that will happen? Yes....5 of our next 6 games are on turf. Our 3 losses are on grass (Chicago, KC, GB)....We are 6-0 on turf. And the Super Bowl this year is outside on grass.... hmmm...

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